Wilder fighting with Plymouth players in tunnel

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Nick Jansky said:
He doesn’t get a free pass forever because of that. In terms of where we are, what’s happening now is far more important than what happened 5 years ago.
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There's only so long that someone can dine out on past achievements.

Since 2019/20, Chris Wilder has achieved very little and at this point, the only remedy to that would be for Leeds or Burnley to utterly capitulate like we've done or an unprecedented play off final victory at Wembley. Unless that happens, his credits, in my mind, have run out. If we don't go up, this season will be remembered for his antics over the last couple of weeks and a royal balls-up of things with derby victories being nothing but a sub-plot.

After that, it's Soccer Saturday, taking a job in the lower leagues or the after dinner speaking circuit because post-pandemic Chris Wilder seems to approach things with a very different mentality.
 

Thread should be deleted as it shouldn't be the done thing to slander people. Especially our our own manager. Those making this claim have had ample time to present their evidence:

OED "fighting":

noun
the action of fighting; violence or conflict.
"terrible fighting broke out in the streets"

adjective
displaying or engaging in violence, combat, or aggression.
"he was a fighting man"

A lot of apologies are needed...
 
nopigfansintown said:
Thread should be deleted as it shouldn't be the done thing to slander people. Especially our our own manager. Those making this claim have had ample time to present their evidence:

OED "fighting":

noun
the action of fighting; violence or conflict.
"terrible fighting broke out in the streets"

adjective
displaying or engaging in violence, combat, or aggression.
"he was a fighting man"

A lot of apologies are needed...
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Agree totally with this.

No problems with anyone wanting to criticise tactics/ team selection etc. but some of the comments on here re. Wilders's appearance/mental health etc are a disgrace and actually reveal more about the poster than about their target.
 
Slugger said:
Agree totally with this.

No problems with anyone wanting to criticise tactics/ team selection etc. but some of the comments on here re. Wilders's appearance/mental health etc are a disgrace and actually reveal more about the poster than about their target.
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Bang out of order, but then a significant proportion of our now deluded entitled fanbase have been disgracing themselves all season. BL is a toxic place to be this season.
 
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Bladesman said:
Settle down Chris.
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I'm as cool as ever he proverbial cucumber Danny. Why wouldn't I be after doubling you. Settle yourself down. Have a sausage roll.

While your at it Danny maybe you're the one that can provide the evidence of the fighting? (rhetorical question).
 
The Fox said:
All of this , from the Hillsborough monologue ,the Oxford rant ,feytin at Plymouth. I can't help thinking it's telling us there's alot going off in his head distracting him from selecting and preparing a team for the next game.
Somehow he's allowed himself to become distracted by nonsense , we've all been there at some time where our judgement and actions are effected negatively.

How he or the club get him and the team back on track ,focused and on point for Friday and the remaining fixtures is going to be a challenge . If they don't the season will spiral into nothing.
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He looks pi55ed in more ways than one! Seriously someone needs to check his well being cause as you say his head is distracted fighting everything and everyone. Wouldn’t expect to see Farke or Parker acting like this.
 
Slugger said:
Agree totally with this.

No problems with anyone wanting to criticise tactics/ team selection etc. but some of the comments on here re. Wilders's appearance/mental health etc are a disgrace and actually reveal more about the poster than about their target.
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Yes.Theres been an awful lot of nonsense written on s24su this weekend. Most of it made up/speculated and repeated endlessly. It's the first time I've wondered whether to continue posting on here.
It's a shame because there's a lot of useful and helpful info but increasingly too much trash
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
You can’t be singing about other clubs in pubs if you can’t take it when you’re at the receiving end of some abuse/ banter.
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He's one of those I'm afraid. Big mouthed bully who likes to dish it out but can't take it back. All someone has to do is eat a sandwich in his presence and he becomes an embarrassment. Not much difference to the coked up old men who follow the club looking for trouble. I'm actually surprised he doesn't get into trouble as he's often out in S10/11 but he's either with his goon squad or missus.

You have to remember that he's acting like this when we're 3rd in the league on a bad run. Imagine if we'd lost a few more games?
 
Slugger said:
Agree totally with this.

No problems with anyone wanting to criticise tactics/ team selection etc. but some of the comments on here re. Wilders's appearance/mental health etc are a disgrace and actually reveal more about the poster than about their target.
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I agree with the mental health bit. No one knows what is going on behind closed doors and it's not a laughing matter/something that should be speculated on casually.

Appearance is a other matter. He's the figurehead/CEO of multi-million business getting paid millions a year. Customers are well within their rights to expect certain standards. It doesn't generally bother me but if it does others then fair enough.
 
Wilder will get through this, he's a tough cookie, he'll be fully aware of his and the team's short comings it'll be fixed in the summer I've no doubt, Just because we've had a collapse at the wrong time of the season doesn't warrant sacking him, He's up there with the best we have had and is still the best available - as for mental health problems? Get a life because life is tough
 

I am not Wilders biggest fan at all and regardless of what happens from now i still would not be bothered if he left.

But i will state this that if you are going to try and provoke people do not cry if you get a reaction.

The plymoth players knew what they were doing and whilst Wilder said a few words that were a bit unprofessional as a manager you can understand why he let rip in the hest of the moment.

No one in football can take the moral high ground as there simply is no morals in football.

It was all handbags at ten paces anyway i have seeem far worse incidents.
 
As a general comment about Premier League/Championship football management. It's a high profile, highly stressful, extremely well paid job.

The last few weeks plus previous behaviour does beg the question whether he's up to the task, simply in terms with dealing with the pressure. The media. The nature of modern toxic fanbases etc.

Personally, I get paid a sliver of what he gets paid but I don't wish to get promoted within my organisation to a high profile position because I don't want that pressure.

I'd use a different example of someone who isn't good at handling the pressure of top football management and that's the Spurs manager. He doesn't handle the media very well. Terrible with criticism, both of the team and himself. Makes a tit out of himself because he struggles to control his emotions.
 
nopigfansintown said:
The people commenting on someone else's mental health are an absolute disgrace and far worse than the person they are speculating about. Be that any person. Scum bags.
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what are those people commenting on someone's weight?
 
robbiez666 said:
what are those people commenting on someone's weight?
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You mean yourself? Ozempic was it? Yeah, you let yourself down big style there. Not for the first time. At least you didn't sing rapey paedo songs about his kid daughter or insult his wife though I'll give you that.
 
nopigfansintown said:
You mean yourself? Ozempic was it? Yeah, you let yourself down big style there. Not for the first time. At least you didn't sing rapey paedo songs about his kid daughter or insult his wife though I'll give you that.
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Like your mate, but yes, fair comment. It was meant to be a joke as people keep saying it, but you're right, bad taste.
 
robbiez666 said:
Like your mate, but yes, fair comment. It was meant to be a joke as people keep saying it, but you're right, bad taste.
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My mate? This is baseless abuse

So you think you can hurl abuse at someone and not be responded too? (like those fans). Are you sure you're not the one with the mentality of a "big bully"?

It was a disgrace. As was your comment calling him a big mouthed bully. Your comments on his his mental state. The references to his mates as a "goon squad". It's all the rage on here though so knock yourself out.

Good luck to the next guy that doesn't get us 85 points from 42 games and take the club from obscurity to where CW did. I can only assume they'll be tarred and feathered.
 
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nopigfansintown said:
It was a disgrace. As was your comment calling him a big mouthed bully. Your comments on his his mental state. The references to his mates as a goon squad. It's all the rage on here though so knock yourself out.

Good luck to the next guy that doesn't get us 85 points from 42 games and take the club from obscurity to where CW did. I can only assume they'll be tarred and feathered.
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I've encountered him and his mates on many occasions over the years, so any comment about personalities is from my (limited) experience. But his handling of situations in the press and public eye don't do anything to dispel any prejudices.

I've also said (up above) that speculating on his mental health isn't right. I think it's perfectly right to comment when a football manager is bad at dealing with pressure/stress because that obviously impacts his/her ability and also the ability of his/her team. People aren't given high profile jobs in any walk of life if they can't handle the media or pressure. I've probably crossed the line, in the heat of the moment, so hands up on that.

But then again, not on international TV.

And by the way, I've not called for him to be sacked for his footballing performance. He's overachieved this season, but he's also had the ability to bring in better players than most other teams. I don't think finishing third should naturally call into question his position. I think if he was professional off the pitch then his position probably wouldn't be coming under as much scrutiny.

And btw, every Blade who has spoken to me as work seems to share similar views to many on here. I personally didn't want him back, but I think this kind of reaction was always going to happen when the going got tough after last time.
 
Hmm - just seen the fat boy video. Wilder worryingly looks like he is behaving a bit like Clough in his final months at Forest. I hope he is not boozing too much and is getting some help with his wellbeing / the pressure.
 
robbiez666 said:
He needs to be disciplined by the club. What an embarrassment.
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They can start by taking the fines out of his wages.
No smoke without fire.
Multiple disciplinary charges ?

The tone of thuggery is set by the manager.

Whereas most of our players deserve their chance of promotion ,
You can clearly see that Wilder would look completely out of place in the PL and we would have the wrong sort of reputation & image.
Refs , especially those who enjoy a sandwich after their efforts , would be against us from the off.

Think of Sheffield United as if you're not a fan - what comes to mind ?
Crude Colin & Wild Wilder.

He bangs on about culture carriers.

Then appoints the talent-limited Robinson as captain , who prefers to fight with opponents both during and and after games.

Surely the owners must act if they are aware from across the pond of how Wilder affects the way neutrals , opposition clubs , refs , the FA , etc actually perceived us.

You can't survive in the PL with a roughneck manager - we'd be an easy target for every bent decision.
And beat our own low points record from last season.

As a fan , I can identify with Wilder as a fan himself.

But you can't have as your manager the type of fan that Wilder and I both are ,
far too invested emotionally.

In the unlikely event of promotion , he has to go , for both his and the club's sake.
 

I would like to see CW do an interview where he says

“this is on me, I confronted Plymouth players, shouted into the crowd and incited the whole incident, I’ll take whatever punishment is due personally, but the buck stops with me and not the players or club”

Because that’s the truth

Wilder ignores it and nothing happens

Don’t hide behind passhun, got it in for us or they were goading fans

Time to stand up and take one for the team Chris
 
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