Wilder contract

[ml1997]

Wilder is a must to stay, would give him a 3 year extension.

He’s succeeded at every club in his career apart from Middlesborough (where he had a very good half season and below average third of a season) and Watford (which is irrelevant).

Not only that, he’s been excellent this season. Tactically, transfer wise, man management. He’s shown it all.

 

[wak1889]

Parker's a big gamble. He's only ever done it with big money. If you are a parachute club spending huge money, yes.

Burnley have sold over £100m of players since they came down in the summer and spent roughly half of that and their player turnaround is equal or maybe higher than ours

 

[Silky Sabella]

No rush for a contract yet.....let's see where we are in January when we've played every team
and the way the takeover is going....it'll probably be January until it goes through.

Put it this way....if we lose 3 or 4 in the next 5 matches....then you can bet....loads on here will be screaming "Wilder out".

As already mentioned, no PL and almost every Championship club would go near him.
His main offers will come from league 1 clubs (Bolton or Rotherham are probably the best offers there).
Think a struggling Championship club might also be interested...someone like Hull City.

but he's not leaving here to join Hull City.

Bang on post. Also, before any contract can be discussed, there has got to be a belief from the owners ( whoever they may be) that wilder has got the technical ability, nous and knowledge to be successful in the premiership.

 

[Barney Rubble]

At the end of last season we could have sacked Wilder and brought in a new manager. At the time I wouldn't have been bothered If we'd made that decision. However, if any new manager had been able to turn the team around in the way that Wilder has done, with the resources that have been made available to him, we would be praising him to the rafters.

Any such manager would already be on a longer contract but Wilder's expires at the end of this season. It seems to me that we are using the fact that Wilder is a blade to delay giving him the contract that we would be desperate to give to any other manager in his situation.

 

[SUFC Guy]

At the end of last season we could have sacked Wilder and brought in a new manager. At the time I wouldn't have been bothered If we'd made that decision. However, if any new manager had been able to turn the team around in the way that Wilder has done, with the resources that have been made available to him, we would be praising him to the rafters.

Any such manager would already be on a longer contract but Wilder's expires at the end of this season. It seems to me that we are using the fact that Wilder is a blade to delay giving him the contract that we would be desperate to give to any other manager in his situation.

I think the takeover will be playing a major part in that. The new owners may have their eyes on other managers if we don't go up.

 

[LurkerBladeS2]

Burnley have sold over £100m of players since they came down in the summer and spent roughly half of that and their player turnaround is equal or maybe higher than ours

I would add that Burnley spent £90m more than us when they went up, I think that has a bearing?

 

[The Fox]

I really can't see any new contract being offered until the end of the season and it'll depend what division we'll be playing in and who the owners are by then .
Could be championship under PA or PL under new owners or vice versa. Each scenario has a different dynamic that will determine who's the best fit and who makes the decision.

 

[Harry's Game]

New owners are bringing in Bob Bradley… YHIHF ..

 

[jimmymuir]

I wouldn't swap him for any manager on the planet. Yes, that's me being biased, but he's a very good manager and he's one of us.

 

[Bladezz]

We need to get him a new deal ASAP.

We seem to be having a love in from Sky which is unusual and Wilder’s names seems to be spoken about in high regard across England.

I believe his contract is up at the end of the season. Needs to be sorted as a priority.

4 months ago I posted this.

You see teams like pigs down the road having a meltdown because Southampton maybe want Sausage. Their only saving grace is compensation package.

If him and all his team are contracted for 6 more months we would get diddly squat.

Reading some of the comments on this post where some what amusing too.

 

[MadDad38]

Wilder will not be poached by anyone in January. If we get promoted I am sure he will get a new contract. What on earth are you worried about?

 

[Rodley]

Needs a 2 or 3 year deal IMHO. Done an unbelievable job!

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Needs a 2 or 3 year deal IMHO. Done an unbelievable job!

Give him 10 years like Porterfield. He can build a dynasty

 

[Silky Sabella]

I really can't see any new contract being offered until the end of the season and it'll depend what division we'll be playing in and who the owners are by then .
Could be championship under PA or PL under new owners or vice versa. Each scenario has a different dynamic that will determine who's the best fit and who makes the decision.

Constructive and logical

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

I honestly believe if we are not in the Prem next season it won't be Mr Wilder's fault.
I also believe when we are, unless he is given full backing from the club we won't be there for long.....

 

[1987]

He's doing an incredible job and is obviously deserving of a new contract.

Those who say "yeah well we aren't about to lose him", that's probably true. But then again, that shouldn't really have anything to do with it.

You either back the manager who's got you to the top of the table brilliantly, and got a team giving it all, or you just get rid.

There shouldn't really be an in-between.

 

[Keen Blade]

CW is obviously doing a brilliant job but he's intelligent enough to appreciate that his contract is not the most important thing happening at the Lane just now.
He's not like Colin was in 2006 , farting about with Pompey.
He's got more integrity.
For goodness sake , let the new owners get installed and have time to consider and implement their preferred structure at the top of the club , before creating a job description and proposing it to CW.
The only point of new owners coming in is their belief that they can run the club more successfully than the Prince.
Give them a few minutes to assimilate the issues and make a plan , before pestering them to extend CW's contract along existing lines - they might see his role slightly different to how it's been previously - plenty €of time for such stuff - he's not going to leave when there's a chance of PL , nor are they going to let him go.

 

[Melbourne Blade]

I doubt he's worried at all. He's not going anywhere immediately. I would assume he's got a nice promotion bonus coming his way so he won't be tempted to leave us any time soon.

If we don't get promoted this year he'll likely still be here next season. It's now up to the new owners (when it happens) to back him in January. And then back him if we're in the prem next season. Have a very positive feeling currently and with the right investment we could easily mimic Brentford, Brighton and Forest in establishing ourselves in the premier league

 

[Houston_Blade]

This is the same Chris Wilder that got us a top half finish in the Premier League? I cant hold the covid relegation against him, our fans have always been the 12th man, far better than most Prem fans (or they were back then anyway) And last season no one could have kept us up with that squad.

I thought the atmosphere was bad?!

 

[Houston_Blade]

4 months ago I posted this.

You see teams like pigs down the road having a meltdown because Southampton maybe want Sausage. Their only saving grace is compensation package.

If him and all his team are contracted for 6 more months we would get diddly squat.

Reading some of the comments on this post where some what amusing too.

Who is taking him?

He’s not going to get a decent move elsewhere and there’s absolutely minimal risk of him and Knill leaving on the summer unless we want them to.

He’s good for us and if he achieves promotion this season we should absolutely extend his contract. Outside of us he has never kicked on anywhere else above league 1 level.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

A

I thought the atmosphere was bad?!

Which is why I qualified it with "they were back then".. eg 2018/2019/2020 before covid hit.

 

[Bladezz]

Who is taking him?

He’s not going to get a decent move elsewhere and there’s absolutely minimal risk of him and Knill leaving on the summer unless we want them to.

He’s good for us and if he achieves promotion this season we should absolutely extend his contract. Outside of us he has never kicked on anywhere else above league 1 level.

Hard to kick on anywhere else as he’s been with us majority of his time above league one bar about 50 games.

We are the only club probably in the world with a manager who’s top of the division with 6months left on his contract.

Maybe we are just setting the trend ? Or maybe we are just poorly run.

 

[Charlieblade]

I have a lot of time for Chris Wider and the job he has done at the lane since his arrival. I was not impressed by the way the club dismissed PH, but that’s life as a manager.

So far Wilder has done decent job of the rebuild, and having a new head of recruitment has helped enormously. Wider has a contract until the end of this season, and his future is in the hands of new owners. If they give him a new deal, I’m happy with that. If they are not happy with him, and the get a new manager of their choosing, so be it.

The most important issue now, is SUFC.

 

[Pegster]

I have a lot of time for Chris Wider and the job he has done at the lane since his arrival. I was not impressed by the way the club dismissed PH, but that’s life as a manager.

So far Wilder has done decent job of the rebuild, and having a new head of recruitment has helped enormously. Wider has a contract until the end of this season, and his future is in the hands of new owners. If they give him a new deal, I’m happy with that. If they are not happy with him, and the get a new manager of their choosing, so be it.

The most important issue now, is SUFC.

'So far Wilder has done decent job of the rebuild' - Bit of an understatement !!

 

[Charlieblade]

'So far Wilder has done decent job of the rebuild' - Bit of an understatement !!

Unless you believe that the rebuild is complete already, I disagree.

 

[Pegster]

Unless you believe that the rebuild is complete already, I disagree.

The rebuild is obviously not yet complete . With the money available ( probably the £10m Osula sale ) , he has done an exceptional job .

 

[alcoblade]

Unless you believe that the rebuild is complete already, I disagree.

Then surely you'd say "so far, Wilder has done a great job with the rebuild" ? The rebuild is never actually complete, in managerial terms.

 

[Charlieblade]

Then surely you'd say "so far, Wilder has done a great job with the rebuild" ? The rebuild is never actually complete, in managerial terms.

I did say ‘so far’. I chose the word ‘decent’ because others will probably have been involved in it. Anything else is another opinion, and not mine.

 

[alcoblade]

I did say ‘so far’. I chose the word ‘decent’ because others will probably have been involved in it. Anything else is another opinion, and not mine.

We can never say who's done what exactly. What we can say is that Wilder is the head, and should take responsibility both ways. You'd surely have to describe the job, so far, as exceptional.

On others being involved in it - Mike Allen was appointed head of recruitment by Wilder. I was against it, as I was convinced he'd be a Wilder puppet. But I have good information to say that's not true, and Mike Allen has made some good appointments against Wilder's judgement - but Wilder has trusted him. Credit to them both there.

 

[Charlieblade]

We can never say who's done what exactly. What we can say is that Wilder is the head, and should take responsibility both ways. You'd surely have to describe the job, so far, as exceptional.

On others being involved in it - Mike Allen was appointed head of recruitment by Wilder. I was against it, as I was convinced he'd be a Wilder puppet. But I have good information to say that's not true, and Mike Allen has made some good appointments against Wilder's judgement - but Wilder has trusted him. Credit to them both there.

As I said, I chose to use the word decent. It reflects the work that Wilder and others have done, under his direction, in order to prepare them individually and collectively. Without going into the work I assume has been done, compiling lists of players, positions and characteristics required. The targets may have been identified by Wilder, Knill or the new head of recruitment and his staff.

Presumably the owner sets the budget, and Wilder has the final say. While this is not the first time Wilder has been asked to recruit on a budget, it is his most recent time, and he may or msy not have chosen to work with new recruitment staff! Hence my choice of words is deliberately cautious, as it is my opinion and no one elses. Decent, reflects my opinion and it will only change if others present facts to the contrary.