Wilder Bottled It

[Bladezz]

Showed them far too much respect, got what we deserved, all our attacking threats on the bench!!

So it begins they are back out.

 

[Slim Man]

Cowardly as in Wilder was afraid of Leeds? He just thought it gave us the best chance of getting a result.

The justification is he thought it would work. Imagine thinking it'd work, but then bottling it because it looks strange to change a winning team.

Yep. He was.

If you think otherwise that’s fine, but you don’t line up like that unless you’re afraid of the opposition

 

[Sean Thornton]

Spikey reply to the rather obvious question about his formation.





Aren’t Leeds brilliant?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Would you prefer him to have played Rak Sakyi because it looks brave, despite actually thinking it would make us more likely to lose?

It doesn’t look brave to play him, it’s what we’ve been doing all season and it has been delivering results. Showing so much respect to Leeds that you change a winning formula simply suggests that you accept that you’re second best before you’ve even kicked off.

 

[Jim Mcdonald]

We’re still gonna piss this league so we will.

 

[JJBlade]

Might as well go all out attack and lose

Yes, the way to make friends, the way to encourage fans to come and watch, the way to be entertaining even if you get beat.
No, stop it, we can't even entertain very often when we win

 

[Jon B]

I understand that his take on sides promoted recently is they emphasise the importance of every member of the squad rather than of having a team and supporting reserves.

Which means rotation of players.

And there are pretty obvious pros and cons to that.

 

[71Blade]

Chris post match worrying comments. We didn't lay a glove in them but saying they are the best team by a distance just deflects how negative and how bad we were tonight. Too many poor performances but personally give it a bloody go not one shot that's just unacceptable in any game.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

The only change we could/should have made was Peck for o'Hare and pack midfield. Not picking Rak Saki/Brooks meant we had no attacking outlet.

I'm not expert, but surely lining Rak Sakhi up against Bogle in was the play here tonight???

 

[Tezza1889]

I'm not denying the poor performance, and i agree wilder set us up for a point. Just think some fans were getting excited about the prospect of being the next invincibles. Was never going to happen. We've lost tonight yes, but there's a lot of games to go. Fully expect us to take 6 points from the next 2 games

We stopped down the kop at the qpr game, 2-0 up and coasting, sun was out and we said fuck the 2nd half, were off lets have another..

That finished 2-2..

So im not delusional about how great we are.. we don't destroy anybody do we?

Wilders deficiencies are bailed out by the players individual talent, tonight was a managerial masterclass from farke, wilder was clueless.

 

[Bell4]

Op is a bedwetting....again. fuck me some of our fans genuinely think we're entitled to win every game

No they don’t

What a fkin stupid thing to say

This is SUFC not Man City !

But to set us up in a way that many thought would deliver the outcome that actually happened - as a professional manager - was incompetent

Poor tactics

And it’s not in hindsight - read the posts before kick off

Poor job Chris

 

[wavy-blade]

The best comment on this thread is we had the best defense in the league why change it ? With hindsight he should have started with Rak-Sakyi or brooks , but we all make mistakes we move on and go for it next match !!

 

[Tezza1889]

No they don’t

What a fkin stupid thing to say

This is SUFC not Man City !

But to set us up in a way that many thought would deliver the outcome that actually happened - as a professional manager - was incompetent

Poor tactics

And it’s not in hindsight - read the posts before kick off

Poor job Chris

Rak saki just got his scoring boots on...let's bench him

Ffs

 

[AWetFlannel]

Yep. He was.

If you think otherwise that’s fine, but you don’t line up like that unless you’re afraid of the opposition

Should he not have been afraid? Would going for it against the best team in the league away from home have worked?

The line of criticism makes sense, not trying to be a nob. I don't think the formation blunted us, we just played a bit shit. That's on Wilder as well, but he's hardly chucked the points away. We tried something, it worked fairly well but not enough.

 

[AWetFlannel]

It doesn’t look brave to play him, it’s what we’ve been doing all season and it has been delivering results. Showing so much respect to Leeds that you change a winning formula simply suggests that you accept that you’re second best before you’ve even kicked off.

We are second best to Leeds and we're away from home. It's easy for fans to only focus on ourselves and pretend other teams don't exist, but the manager has to.

 

[Bell4]

The best comment on this thread is we had the best defense in the league why change it ? With hindsight he should have started with Rak-Sakyi or brooks , but we all make mistakes we move on and go for it next match !!

You were full on everything is ok at half time ?

FFS

 

[Bell4]

It doesn’t look brave to play him, it’s what we’ve been doing all season and it has been delivering results. Showing so much respect to Leeds that you change a winning formula simply suggests that you accept that you’re second best before you’ve even kicked off.

Spot on N

 

[Slim Man]

Should he not have been afraid? Would going for it against the best team in the league away from home have worked?

The line of criticism makes sense, not trying to be a nob. I don't think the formation blunted us, we just played a bit shit. That's on Wilder as well, but he's hardly chucked the points away. We tried something, it worked fairly well but not enough.

Worked fairly well? I’m not sure what game you watched mate

 

[DronnieBlade]

Wilder might have got it wrong. I don’t think so, but he might.

What he didn’t do is bottle it.

Never in a month of Sundays !!

UTB

 

[Bell4]

Wilder might have got it wrong. I don’t think so, but he might.

What he didn’t do is bottle it.

Never in a month of Sundays !!

UTB

What didn’t he do that didn’t bottle it ?

 

[AWetFlannel]

Worked fairly well? I’m not sure what game you watched mate

How many chances did they have before the goal? The Aaronson one on the volley, can't think of another.

The system worked fairly well, too many players didn't play well.

 

[100% part time blade]

Oh I dont care about that team of the week stuff, but coops couldn't save the first goal, and the second was all on peck, who's a kid learning the game.

That first, nobody saves it it's a great goal, the second, a defender should be dealing with it, they went to sleep and left peck to try and sort it..

Agree regarding Peck learning the game, and another factor is that defensive players had gone off rather than to sleep. It was the 91st minute and we’d put attacking options on to chase a goal: the risk of another goal was always there.

 

[Sean Thornton]

We don’t score many goals with our strongest line up. Where did he think one was coming from tonight?

Admittedly O’Hare was poor, Burrows had probably his weakest game, Blaster and Hamer looked tired but we continued to hoof the ball to Moore who only had anyone near him when he dropped deeper. Not a tactic that will get you three points at ER. Not that Wilder seemed to be after that.

 

[Wickersley Blade]

The only change we could/should have made was Peck for o'Hare and pack midfield. Not picking Rak Saki/Brooks meant we had no attacking outlet.

I'm not expert, but surely lining Rak Sakhi up against Bogle in was the play here tonight???

We all know Bogle can't defend, why make his night easier?

 

[Tezza1889]

Agree regarding Peck learning the game, and another factor is that defensive players had gone off rather than to sleep. It was the 91st minute and we’d put attacking options on to chase a goal: the risk of another goal was always there.

Fair comment..

 

[ReeceofBDTBL]

Bringing on gilchrist to play as a right wing back was rancid.

It also went about as well as you’d expect it to when we were a goal down and went to a back 4 with Alfie at right back.

Sorry Chris, but tonight was really shit.

Tyrese Campbell is giving Oli Burke ‘seriously, what was the point of this signing’ vibes. An absolute nothing player and about what you’d expect for a cheap option who’s flattered to deceive for a number of years now

 

[Bladeslife]

Do one knobhead.

Come on, take those rose tinted glasses off instead of throwing abuse . 90 per cent of people thought it judging by the comments. He just happened to say the straight to the point version

 

[Addison]

Edit

 

[raul]

Overall, I think a dropped pie would have neen more use tonight.

 

[DronnieBlade]

What didn’t he do that didn’t bottle it ?

There is a presumption (and misconception IMHO) that going to 3 at the back was a negative and more defensive move. I don’t necessarily agree.

I thought with Hamer and or Cal OH combining with a higher up the pitch LWB rather than a LB, we would expose the known defensive frailties of Bogle.

It can also be argued that, putting square pegs in square holes, all of the back 5 players are specialists in their respective positions.

Burrows IS a LWB.
Alfie is not a RWB. Shacks is.
Harry plays as the central CB in a 3 for his country.
Anel is the best RCB in the division.
If Robbo was fit, he would have been LCB. RND is an able deputy albeit I’m personally unsure whether his best position is LCB, LB or LWB.

THAT would have been the gaffers thinking. Also freed up Gus to be a bit more central although he was well marshalled all game and had limited impact. Can’t imagine why Farke tasked his players to watch Gus like a Hawk .

Moore started superbly but faded as the service and our overall possession waned.

The gaffer made a judgement call. I for one was not as surprised by this as others seem to be as it compacted the space in the middle areas of the pitch, where Leeds can hurt any side in the division.

We have lost a game of football. One shortly after the desperately sad loss of a much loved recently ex player that has had a profound effect on management, players and supporters alike.

A few might do well to take a different perspective in this before jumping with both feet into the “blame game”.

We all experts after the event.

Except we are not. Emphatically not in fact !

UTB