Credit where it’s due

[MobileBlade]

Read the thread of chat I was responding to.

I did.

 

[Gavlar]

It is. But we need consistency. So a win needs analysing.

For sure. It's hard for most teams at the moment with the workload around Christmas though isn't it?

It's about having enough fit players to put out a competitive team.

Once the fixtures calm down a bit it will be easier to analyse our performances and results.

 

[VictoryBlade]

I just don't understand when your supposed to be a pro footballer you cant potentially last 90 mins? My question is why are they so unfit and why has Wilder not addressed it?

 

[LSF]

I just don't understand when your supposed to be a pro footballer you cant potentially last 90 mins? My question is why are they so unfit and why has Wilder not addressed it?

They can last 90 mins, just not at the pace they started the game at. All teams are the same whether you like it or not.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

I'd say half the team on the floor cramping answers that question. The physical drop off in terms of the pressing lines and sprints is also pretty obvious.

100%

 

[nopigfansintown]

I just don't understand when your supposed to be a pro footballer you cant potentially last 90 mins? My question is why are they so unfit and why has Wilder not addressed it?

Whatever went on (or didn't) in the summer caused it. I don't think it can be addressed mid season. You're cooked in any athletic sport. Hearing players who have had no preseason due to nursing injuries describing how difficult the season becomes when they're back "fit" - how they essentially never get going at full pelt underlines the point. I do see minor improvements in certain players who now have 40-60 minutes at intensity rather than until half time with zero intensity. The running stats back that up: we sre getting a much bigger physical output from them, albeit for an inadequate amount of time

Something that can help is bringing in players externally. As long as they're been playing. Central midfield and right back should be huge priorities this window so we can flip players in these positions mid match.Or rotate. It underscores what they think of e.g. Matos when he struggles for game time amidst this shi t show.

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

For sure. It's hard for most teams at the moment with the workload around Christmas though isn't it?

It's about having enough fit players to put out a competitive team.

Once the fixtures calm down a bit it will be easier to analyse our performances and results.

Same every year, same for every team…consistency in this league is absolutely key. Christmas break means it is even more.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Did it though, or did it just keep Stoke in the game.

If Pearson doesn't bring him down, you'd back Bamford to go through and make it 3-1, which would have been game over.

Instead, Stoke go down to 10 men but stay in the game scoreline wise, rather than having 11 players but potentially being 3-1 down.

That's why personally I think the Laws of the Game needs a rewrite, the denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity, like you correctly states keeps them in it at 2-1. Personally (although stealing from a different sport) I would like the player making the foul to receive a yellow rather than red and the other team being given a "penalty goal". The classic example of this was in the World cup in 2010 with the Luis Suarez handball on the line incident against Ghana, he was sent off and Ghana got a penalty for which it was saved. A penalty goal in that case would have been better justified as the ball was going in.

 

[FTPE]

Watching United is like watching a boxer unloading for 2 rounds and punching out only to get twated in the 5th for the KO. This high press needs super fit squads . Because we have a shite defence we can’t sit deep either. Screwed either way aren’t we

Hold on, we lost?

 

[TopBoy]

Last 10 games W6 D2 L2 = 20 points = 2 points a game = 73 points if we continue that way.
Last 6 games, but for that weird capitulation at Wrexham, which was addressed the game after, would have been a similar return.
With Jan transfer activity to come, I wouldn't say it's laughable to consider us scraping into the play-offs as a possibility by dealing with the issue raised by Nedski
Not probable, but definitely possible.

Or 92 points over a whole season at that rate. Enough for promotion ...

 

[Chunkey]

Other teams have managers with the tactical knowledge to change games, we don’t.

I suppose you would be wetting your pants if we ever got Phil Parkinson then.

 

[Big.Dane.w]

That’s utter drivel.

We certainly can’t handle a change in momentum during games, not sure if that’s down to the team or the manager though Wilder is definitely reactive rather than pro active

 

[ancientblade]

its a worrying trend playing great for an hour then running out of gas in the last 30 but in that first hour were as good as anything in this league if we could only put our chances away in games we would be cruising and thats our problem hopefully bamford signing will help but we need more from campbell cannon and ings when their on the pitch

 

[bonobo]

I am bit baffled by people saying they were shocked by the selection. It was virtually the most expected xi, surely ? Arblaster couldn't play another full game, so Soumare started again. McCallum and Burrows rotated as they always do. Rotated the stickers as was expected in a 3 game week. Don't think there was any complaining about Brooks coming back in and every chance he will be rotated again on Thursday. I guess it could have been Matos for Soumare, but we have hardly seen him play, so don't know why that would be such a demanding option. Maybe Gus could have started again, but he has not been in form and struggling to show stamina, while Brooks has been in great form recently and did start the last game.

 

[Brian Deane]

Did it though, or did it just keep Stoke in the game.

If Pearson doesn't bring him down, you'd back Bamford to go through and make it 3-1, which would have been game over.

Instead, Stoke go down to 10 men but stay in the game scoreline wise, rather than having 11 players but potentially being 3-1 down.

Stoke also had a couple of chances after the sending off to equalise.

 

[SE1Blade]

They were picking up steam at 2-1 and looked livelier than us going forward. Bamford was fouled so far out it’s impossible to put a likelihood on him scoring.

It’s not. Look at where the keeper is. If Branford gets the ball it’s virtually an open goal to score, albeit a long way out. I reckon he scores 95% of the time there. Had to be a red card.

 

[bruce]

Yeah, maybe "saved us" was a bit strong, but they were definitely on top at that pont and losing a man took the wind out of their sails a bit. We might well have seen it out, but it most definitely did help us.

I know we do have a disturbing habit of collapsing when in strong positions. But last night Stoke didn't really seem hugely threateningly. It could be argued that just before the sending off it was us who had the best chance when Bamford's effort was saved.

 

[ancientblade]

I know we do have a disturbing habit of collapsing when in strong positions. But last night Stoke didn't really seem hugely threateningly. It could be argued that just before the sending off it was us who had the best chance when Bamford's effort was saved.

stoke are a poor team better quality in the final 3rd and we would have won more comfortably

 

[Rodley]

It is. But we need consistency. So a win needs analysing.

We're such an inconsistent team. Soumare and Burrows have been poor so far this season, but tonight they were both great. Play them both next game and they'll probably revert back to poor.

Other teams have managers with the tactical knowledge to change games, we don’t.

Top of the form table over the last 10 games.

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

Top of the form table over the last 10 games.

Correct, but consistency could be better. See the last 6 games. I’m not saying we win every game but we do better in games where we should win - Wrexham was a good example. There’s been many others.

 

[Dkc]

We're such an inconsistent team

Over the past ten games we have a better record than any other club in the division. No team will win every game. We've lost two, drawn two and won six of the last ten.

 

[AWetFlannel]

I think we're fairly consistent, but have a mental fragility which makes us prone to the odd clanger like WBA away and the second half at Wrexham.

 

[JT89]

Top of the form table over the last 10 games.

The Wilder fanboys really will pluck out any random stat to support their idol won’t they

Did you know we have a 100% win record based on the last 1 game…

 

[Koh Samui Blade]

I just don't understand when your supposed to be a pro footballer you cant potentially last 90 mins? My question is why are they so unfit and why has Wilder not addressed it?

We were the same last season in many matches but clung on to 1-0 victory's

 

[Rodley]

The Wilder fanboys really will pluck out any random stat to support their idol won’t they

Did you know we have a 100% win record based on the last 1 game…

I’m hardly a fanboy, but if people are talking shite I’ll call it out.

 

[Blade56]

Wilder can add to the squad now, we just needed to get through these Christmas matches.

Think incomings will depend on if Bamford is staying or going. I was against him but think Wilder has given him a lease of life as a clean player and as such is worth building a squad around.