Where would sending Wednesday down next week rank?

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I get loads out of it. With United it’s never dull and typically a white knuckle ride, with many highs and lows. I just think sending Wednesday down in their present state, when they’re already down, is nothing to get excited about. If you do then you’re setting a really low bar.
What do you consider to have been a high then if relegating your local rivals doesn't bother you ?
 



Boxing Day was put to bed in 2017. It was also 47 years ago. Most of the fans who sing about it don't remember it and a lot weren't even born. It was a third division game too. I get why they'd brag about beating us at Wembley but a third tier game from almost 50 years ago is the definition of tin pot.

We won't know where it ranks until we do it. There's lots of backslapping going on for something that hasn't happened yet. They don't get hammered often and we've got some brain-dead players who could quite easily get sent off early doors. We obviously should win but until we do, we won't know how good it will feel. The manner of any potential victory will determine how high it ranks. A boring 1-0 won't feel the same as a 4-0 hammering. A last minute winner to send them down would be a great story for the history books.

We'll see next week how it compares to other derbies. We need to win first
Since I was there at the BDM, it was definitely put to bed when we did the double over them in the old first division with the Bobby Davison game at the Sty. Those 6 points prevented them from getting any real glory that season.
Doing it in their own back yard was perfect.

On this game I shall be overjoyed if we can relegate them. I don’t think it will be a massacre since they have shown a level of resilience that ensures they don’t get completely dicked, despite not troubling the opponents goal.

Having said that. The pressure of a derby at Bramall Lane could well be a key factor and may be too much for the faint hearted. 🤞🏻
 
The unprecedented expectation of us winning would flip it entirely the other way if the unthinkable happened.

It would rank as the most embarrassing defeat in the 135 year history of the fixture.
And that's what makes me nervous. Cos we'd never hear end of it. But that's footy banter.

Let's win and if ot sends them down even better.

Best thing would be coasting 3 nil with 15 mins left so we can milk it
 
Always great to beat them but the relegation side means nothing, it’s just a fluke that it’s ended up this way.

Sending them down when they’ve got a chance of survival and breaking their hearts would be fantastic, this is just the mathematically part of a relegation that was always going to happen.
 
So let’s be honest, it’s going to take an unrealistic combination of results elsewhere (currently in which the bookies are offering 59/1 to all come in) for us to NOT send them down. So the realistic chances are; we will send them down next week with a win..only that’s what I believe.

Question is; where would it rank for you? Does it finally put Boxing Day to bed once and for all? Is it on par with the finale of 89/90 on that sunny day with Leicester?

Personally, I can see both sides to it. Yes they were down before the season started, but when will we ever have a situation to directly relegate our neighbours on our own turf? This is once in a lifetime stuff that the police etc tend to avoid which is why we never play them last game/2nd to last game of the season - same goes for the other derbys around the UK.

Your thoughts?
Not sure where you are getting 59/1 from?

I just looked and think it would be this combination at 17/1 to happen next Saturday and that is providing that Pompey haven't beaten Charlton when they play in midweek.

If Pompey do beat Charlton then it is only a 11/4 shot on the double.

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I 100% agree. We've all bloody loved it when the silly bastards have gloated and acted all Billy Bigbollox then we've shut them up (Whitehouse match, Davison match, Duffy match).

They're a smug, petty lot, always thinking they're bigger and better without the balls to back it up. It's funny like, no denying that, if timing and karma wise it happens at Bramall Lane. A bunch of kids though on minus points...not much glory in beating them and we'll be acting more like their lot if we're too gloating, petty and twatty about it.
Don't fall for the "bunch of kids" lie. Average age yesterday, of the starting eleven, was almost 25. The bench just over 23.
 
"Add it to your honours board"
"We were relegated by Chansiri"
"Its embarrassing to celebrate beating us"
Etc etc 🤣
Personally, for me (living and growing up where I did) its as big as beating them in a Playoff or cup final. There's always caveats and excuses.
But, none of that will be remembered in the record books.

All I ask is, we pull it off (by hook or by crook) and that we make an incredibly timeless song to commemorate it.
 
What do you consider to have been a high then if relegating your local rivals doesn't bother you ?
for me 5 promotions to the top division, being top of the league, several cup runs, stuffing chelsea and spurs in the Prem. Relegating a non-entity doesnt rank anywhere near those.
 
I don’t understand the notion that relegating them would be irrelevant. In the grand scheme of things, perhaps so but football is so much more than winning or the end of season standings.

Having grown up around them, listening to their unfathomable sense of self-importance, listening to years of jibes about ‘little brother’ or Boxing Day or whatever else the deluded arseholes banged on about for decades, to have the opportunity for a first in the 130 odd year history of the Sheffield Derby is a delicious thought. Yes they’re shit, yes they’re going to get relegated anyway, but to have the opportunity to confirm it at Bramall Lane is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

I’m relishing the chance to see them fall in front of 30k+, laughing in unison at them and will never let them hear the end of it for as long as I exist.

UTB & FTP
 
I think it’s equal to this.

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The perfect scenario would be a game where we relegate them and secure promotion on the same day, but this is so unlikely I’ll take just relegating them.
Brentford and Fulham to most young uns nowadays are regular PL. How times have changed.
I can clearly remember Brentford as one of those odd teams that had a fantastic away record most seasons but did next to nowt at home.
 
No they wouldn't pal, because they're twats. That's my point, I just think we're a bit less twatty. I grew up exactly then and always loved us being underdogs and beating the bastards.

This to me just feels a bit like walking past the prick who always picked on you, nicked your girlfriend and razzed around in a sports car giving it the big'un, seeing that he's lost everything and is now nowt. Do you feel better giving him a fiver or wapping your shlong out and pissing on him (I actually think I know your answer to this though mate 😉)
Interesting take, I don't disagree.

At the same time, generally speaking, their fanbase are entitled twats. I regularly read the HYS section on BBC football and most fans of other clubs agree that they are living in the past.
 
Since I was there at the BDM, it was definitely put to bed when we did the double over them in the old first division with the Bobby Davison game at the Sty. Those 6 points prevented them from getting any real glory that season.
Doing it in their own back yard was perfect.


On this game I shall be overjoyed if we can relegate them. I don’t think it will be a massacre since they have shown a level of resilience that ensures they don’t get completely dicked, despite not troubling the opponents goal.

Having said that. The pressure of a derby at Bramall Lane could well be a key factor and may be too much for the faint hearted. 🤞🏻
This for me. So was I. Duffy bouncing day was second imo. The significance of Bobby Davision night cant be understated. It was in the top division not a third division Christmas non entity game. They were riding high and had an outside chance of the title. Our six points stopped them getting the runners up spot. They had much better players of international standard. We were struggling near the bottom. The game at BDTBL we rode our luck but Deane who had literally got off his sick bed struggling with glandular fever scored the second and the shock waves in S6 started. They couldnt believe we'd won. Palmer started the narrative wait till we get you back to our ground. Pigs everywhere repeated it saying the defeat was a one off.

Fast forward to Bobby Davison night and Basset got his tactics spot on. Shame it was his team selection a year later in the Wembley semi cost us the game. Paul Rodgers had Palmer in his pocket all night. We outplayed a far better team all game. For me it has to be the best derby performance I have ever witnessed having watched my first in 1966. Add in Blades were in all four sides of the ground and the atmosphere was electric.

Pigs will never admit this game put Boxing Day to bed. That low division result is engrained in their DNA. We have to win by four or more goals for that to happen such is their warped logic. Deep down those who were there know it really hurt. A double and ultimately the end of their title dreams. More important they didnt lay a glove on us and to see Blades everywhere celebrating in the stands was the stuff of nightmares. Typically in true pig fashion they were on the radio scapegoating Woods within seconds of the final whistle. They had to endure it again an hour later as Yorkshire tv played the game. Bobby Davison and those flourescent away shirts are part of Derby folklore.

I've watched too many derby games in the past to presume this will be a walkover. They will be up for it and will run through brick walls to try to prevent an embarrassment. Add in the PGMOL are likely to appoint an EPL ref for the game and we will get nothing in the way of decisions. Worse still they could give the game to the likes of Donohue or Doughty. CW would explode if its Langford.

So nothing is taken for granted next week. I'm already getting the slew of text message bollocks from the other halfs pig part timers. Its a meaningless result because the EFL have screwed them. Mike Ashley is waiting in the wings to take them to the promised land. They will rise again and dominate Europe in 5 years. Every time they open their mouths they confirm in my mind I married beneath myself lol
 



Every time they open their mouths they confirm in my mind I married beneath myself lol
Am pissing my self laughing at this comment. Love it.

I've watched too many derby games in the past to presume this will be a walkover. They will be up for it and will run through brick walls to try to prevent an embarrassment. Add in the PGMOL are likely to appoint an EPL ref for the game and we will get nothing in the way of decisions. Worse still they could give the game to the likes of Donohue or Doughty. CW would explode if its Langford.
Also this is very relevant!
 
Seeing Whitehouse score in front of the kop or the Bobby Davison double at their shithole are way above. They were favourites and we shut em up

This relegation has been death by a thousand cuts

Popping up with the last dagger is more putting them out of their misery than inflicting some hammer blow
The bobby Davison night where it was bossed on and off the pitch was the pinnacle of derbys
 
Admittedly I've not looked that hard, but I can't find any example in the football league of a team being relegated in February, add to that it gets confirmed against your major rival. It won't happen again, particularly not this early. We'll song songs about it for years to come. My reasonable Wednesday supporting mates have said that's what they're most worried about.

It might not be a difficult achievement to accomplish, it might not make much difference to our own season's outcome, but it's certainly something that will be celebrated, including by me.
 
Boxing Day has long been “put to bed”. It only lives on in their minds, obsessing about a scoreline from nearly 50 years ago.

Sadly, it lives on in my mind too. I think it scarred me for life, especially going back to school in January 1980, when all the part time DirtyLeeds & Manyoo fans had become 'big Wednesdayites' overnight.

Bouncing Day was brilliant, but sadly I still remember sitting in their North Stand, watching us get out fought and well beaten.
 
So let’s be honest, it’s going to take an unrealistic combination of results elsewhere (currently in which the bookies are offering 59/1 to all come in) for us to NOT send them down. So the realistic chances are; we will send them down next week with a win..only that’s what I believe.

Question is; where would it rank for you? Does it finally put Boxing Day to bed once and for all? Is it on par with the finale of 89/90 on that sunny day with Leicester?

Personally, I can see both sides to it. Yes they were down before the season started, but when will we ever have a situation to directly relegate our neighbours on our own turf? This is once in a lifetime stuff that the police etc tend to avoid which is why we never play them last game/2nd to last game of the season - same goes for the other derbys around the UK.

Your thoughts?
I keep hearing this. They weren’t down before the season started. Yes they had a poor side but Big Chan was largely covering the losses, paying wages late but the players weren’t all excising their right to walk. Those really getting fucked over were the staff but no one seems to care about them in all this for some odd reason.
So they had a poor but solid squad, a few youth players who needed to be blooded around them, and they weren’t going to buy too many but were loaning at a decent level for the squad they had. He was covering that.
They forced him out, maybe understandably, but it’s entirely based on their ingrained sense of entitlement and because they genuinely believe they’re bigger than what they had. More spending, more losses that’s he’d have to cover and if he didn’t want to loads would fall over themselves to own them. Admin would sort it all out they’d soon be back to their natural place.
So here we are. They can’t cover their running costs with the attendances they get or the merchandise they sell. There are no big fish interested in them and they can’t afford the players they had.

This is on the fans and their delusional view of their club and its financial state.
 
Not just the relegation that would be sweet, but the fact that it would be the start of an even darker period in their history. If they think getting relegated is the start of a new dawn, they're due a rude awakening. Back to back relegations is a real possibility.
 
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So let’s be honest, it’s going to take an unrealistic combination of results elsewhere (currently in which the bookies are offering 59/1 to all come in) for us to NOT send them down. So the realistic chances are; we will send them down next week with a win..only that’s what I believe.

We will not send them down if we lose the match regardless of results elsewhere - either they are already down, or we don't pull the trigger and they get a stay of execution. And they are nowhere near as long as 59/1 to win the derby.
 
their threatening to sing the whole 90 minutes irrespective of what the score up to our fans to completely drown em out and that means all 4 stands not just the kop and h. block and at the end give em a 5 minute rendering of starman followed by the greasy chip butty utb ftp ⚔️⚔️⚔️
 
I get their Gaslighting tbh. They have bigger, existential battles ahead of them. Having no connection with Sheffield save Dem Blades, or any Oink-a-lots in my life, I'll find it funny, but not worthy of London Road bus shelter level of celebration.
 
Lets just concentrate on the 3 points anything after is a bonus. Winning is all that matters for me
I'm with that. But it'll add a bit to official relegate the cunts.

Let's win as you say. And we know if we do tgat and results have gone right way fri/sat it means we'll have put the R next to their name (obviously they were relegated in July 25)
 



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