What to do at home

[Bergen Blade]

Our away form is brilliant with five straight wins, but at home we've had four draws in a row.

We may have to accept that it is a bit different to play at home compared to away. What changes would you like to see Danny Wilson make for tuesday's home match against Walsall?

 

[JohnDenver]

Our away form is brilliant with five straight wins, but at home we've had four draws in a row.

We may have to accept that it is a bit different to play at home compared to away. What changes would you like to see Danny Wilson make for tuesday's home match against Walsall?

Replace McAllister with a genuine wide man.

That is all.

 

[mpjacko]

Our away form is brilliant with five straight wins, but at home we've had four draws in a row.

We may have to accept that it is a bit different to play at home compared to away. What changes would you like to see Danny Wilson make for tuesday's home match against Walsall?

Not to try and hold out for a 1-0 win when there is still 45 mins to play

 

[beightonblade]

move em off the kop to the away end

 

[alcoblade]

Not to try and hold out for a 1-0 win when there is still 45 mins to play

Exactly this. Let's go for a 2nd, and a 3rd. In the absence of any decent winger, I'd try Miller on the right. I'd instruct Flynn to attempt to go past his man and deduct wages for cutting in, and inform the lot of them that Sheffield United don't need to be afraid when playing at home against clubs like Odham and Walsall.

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[blade too long]

Id like us to score more goals than the opposition

 

[BladeFisher]

Exactly this. Let's go for a 2nd, and a 3rd. In the absence of any decent winger, I'd try Miller on the right. I'd instruct Flynn to attempt to go past his man and deduct wages for cutting in, and inform the lot of them that Sheffield United don't need to be afraid when playing at home against clubs like Odham and Walsall.

UTB

Drive 'em round Derbyshire in a charabanc. It's been tried before.

 

[SwissBlade]

I thought this was going to be a thread about domestic tasks to do around the home. I'll get over the disappointment though.

So onto the point of the thread, can I ask why we need to tinker too much?

Unbeaten home and away, we now have an excellent away record which is being supported by a decent home record. Sure it's nothing more than 1-0 and 1-1, but do we need to worry? We're slowly chipping away at the two sides above us. But we're getting the job done.

I'm sure we'd all like a more entertaining, expressive, expansive side to thrill 18k attendances as they enjoy the cheapest football in the football league, but we take teams like Oldham and they come at us when we're at the lane. There is an argument that if we go for more goals we could get undone. Am I right in saying that the majority of the goals we've conceded haven't been down to teams ripping us to shreds, but mainly from individual errors...? It suggests that we're mainly coping and containing sides.

So, why change anything?

 

[Bergen Blade]

So, why change anything?

Because we're not happy with

Blades 1-1 Bury
Blades 0-0 Doncaster
Blades 1-1 Notts County
Blades 1-1 Oldham

I think one weakness shared by Warnock and Blackwell was that they often thought formulas that brought good results away could be used to get good results at home.

 

[Silent Blade]

Drive 'em round Derbyshire in a charabanc. It's been tried before.

That was during the 1938-39 season. We won the last game by 6-1 at home against Spurs to pip Wendy for the second promotion place

 

[Large Mendonca]

That was during the 1938-39 season. We won the last game by 6-1 at home against Spurs to pip Wendy for the second promotion place

I remember my dad telling me about that game. There were loads of Wendy fans in the away end apparently wanting us to fail, they went home disappointed

 

[BladeInThatcham]

Collins and Miller in. Williams and McAllister out. Simples.

 

[SwissBlade]

O

Because we're not happy with

Blades 1-1 Bury
Blades 0-0 Doncaster
Blades 1-1 Notts County
Blades 1-1 Oldham

I think one weakness shared by Warnock and Blackwell was that they often thought formulas that brought good results away could be used to get good results at home.

But by default that would suggest that you are happy with the 1-0 and 5-3 we've had at home and the numerous 0-1's away.

I've seen just two games so far Bournemouth 5-3 and Oldham 1-1 and have had to rely on comms and highlights for the others, but I'm not disappointed in the way we've conducted our business, with a weaker squad.

Bournemouth offered a lot more going forward, but mistakes galore at the back. Oldham was far more controlled in the sense that we contained a fiery opposition and but for a last gasp equaliser we could've said job done.

It seems we're far more cautious this season and whilst we seem to have goals throughout the team, the attitude this year is to avoid defeat. We haven't been devastating going forward but have also been very tight at the back, in the main.

Tinker with the home set up, does that then have a knock on effect on our away success?

We know that sides will come to the lane and have a go, which we should be able to cope with. But there are other sides who will come and shut up shop. Did Wilson recognise that the away games would be where we can get the 3 pts whilst home is a minimum draw?

 

[anglian blade]

We aren't the only ones have problems at home. Of the top seven in the Division only Tranmere have gained more points at home than away.

 

[SwissBlade]

We aren't the only ones have problems at home. Of the top seven in the Division only Tranmere have gained more points at home than away.

Problems? Unbeaten still...

 

[JohnDenver]

Collins and Miller in. Williams and McAllister out. Simples.

The former exchange cannot happen, simply because Williams was terrific on Saturday. I've a suspicion that, as a result, Wilson will push Williams forward to accommodate Collins and drop McAllister.

Personally I'd give Collins more time to recover and choose an attacking player (other than Cofie), on the left wing. Given how few goals we score, we cannot play two left backs at home. Flynn on the left and Miller or Chappell on the right will do for me.

 

[anglian blade]

Problems? Unbeaten still...

yes - problems - with 2 points per game needed for promotion you would expect the top sides to be averaging more than that at home, not less.

 

[SwissBlade]

yes - problems - with 2 points per game needed for promotion you would expect the top sides to be averaging more than that at home, not less.

Is that a 2 pt per game average at home only? Don't away games count now?

Our current average is 1.92 per game...

 

[alcoblade]

I thought this was going to be a thread about domestic tasks to do around the home. I'll get over the disappointment though.

So onto the point of the thread, can I ask why we need to tinker too much?

Unbeaten home and away, we now have an excellent away record which is being supported by a decent home record. Sure it's nothing more than 1-0 and 1-1, but do we need to worry? We're slowly chipping away at the two sides above us. But we're getting the job done.

I'm sure we'd all like a more entertaining, expressive, expansive side to thrill 18k attendances as they enjoy the cheapest football in the football league, but we take teams like Oldham and they come at us when we're at the lane. There is an argument that if we go for more goals we could get undone. Am I right in saying that the majority of the goals we've conceded haven't been down to teams ripping us to shreds, but mainly from individual errors...? It suggests that we're mainly coping and containing sides.

So, why change anything?

It's not baby out with the bathwater being suggested Swiss, but I suspect you've not seen a lot of us this season from your far off base?

If nothing else, we are currently 3rd so in line for another trip to Wembley. The thought fills me with dread, and to question what we do for that extra 10%.

We are much better than most of the sides we play. Not just a bit, quite a lot. We need to believe it.

UTB

 

[SwissBlade]

It's not baby out with the bathwater being suggested Swiss, but I suspect you've not seen a lot of us this season from your far off base?

If nothing else, we are currently 3rd so in line for another trip to Wembley. The thought fills me with dread, and to question what we do for that extra 10%.

We are much better than most of the sides we play. Not just a bit, quite a lot. We need to believe it.

UTB

Correct alco, I'm not suggesting that people want wholesale changes and you're right I've not seen a lot, but you'll notice I'm not commenting on finer details of our selections or our play, merely the overall state. I'm questioning the need to tinker at all.

Too many sides look for perfection, but rarely do you get a side who is perfect all season. Look at last season, we amassed a good enough points tally to win the division in normal years, but inconsistencies at the end of the season and mid season dips meant that we got chased down. We scored a shed load of goals.

What I a saying is that whilst we are pretty consistent, showing excellent form, not losing games and not conceding many, then why tinker with it? The away form is working, home is less impressive, but even so, it's effective in the grand scheme of things.

True we're third, we sat in second for most of last season, but got pipped. What we need is to be as consistent as possible all season. were tough to beat.

I'm also starting to think that Danny has become much more refined in his thinking. Last season we could afford to ship goals as we knew we had game changers in willo, Ched and perhaps quinny, we don't have that Luxury now. So a more defensive minded approach seems to be the way were going.

 

[alcoblade]

Correct alco, I'm not suggesting that people want wholesale changes and you're right I've not seen a lot, but you'll notice I'm not commenting on finer details of our selections or our play, merely the overall state. I'm questioning the need to tinker at all.

Too many sides look for perfection, but rarely do you get a side who is perfect all season. Look at last season, we amassed a good enough points tally to win the division in normal years, but inconsistencies at the end of the season and mid season dips meant that we got chased down. We scored a shed load of goals.

What I a saying is that whilst we are pretty consistent, showing excellent form, not losing games and not conceding many, then why tinker with it? The away form is working, home is less impressive, but even so, it's effective in the grand scheme of things.

True we're third, we sat in second for most of last season, but got pipped. What we need is to be as consistent as possible all season. were tough to beat.

I'm also starting to think that Danny has become much more refined in his thinking. Last season we could afford to ship goals as we knew we had game changers in willo, Ched and perhaps quinny, we don't have that Luxury now. So a more defensive minded approach seems to be the way were going.

I dont think anyone's in much of a disgreement here. But McCallister offers so little that it seems risk free to give Miller a try there. And Flynn has 2 options each time. I want him to take the one that's got some nets near it more often.



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[SwissBlade]

I dont think anyone's in much of a disgreement here. But McCallister offers so little that it seems risk free to give Miller a try there. And Flynn has 2 options each time. I want him to take the one that's got some nets near it more often.



UTB

Fair enough, but potentially...
would the change of Mcallister alter the shape and expose us a bit defensively?
If we do that at home, will it then affect our away form? If we chop and change or play a more attacking away game, does that alter the balance?

Can't disagree on Flynn, he's like cotterill in many respects, or Jamie ward in his decision making under pressure.

 

[norfolkblade]

I dont think anyone's in much of a disgreement here. But McCallister offers so little that it seems risk free to give Miller a try there. And Flynn has 2 options each time. I want him to take the one that's got some nets near it more often.



UTB

I have noticed that Blackman seems to like pulling wide on occasions as well, perhaps he and Miller could play a shared role between left wing and up top, would potentially also give opposition defences a lot more to consider if they kept changing roles during the game and can't get settled. My only worry with this would be the tracking back and helping our full back.

 

[cooperblade]

What changes would you like to see Danny Wilson make for tuesday's home match against Walsall?

Walsall might not be the right game to make tactical changes. Reports suggest that Walsall are playing a very open style this season. The stats back this up, in the first 10 games of the season they allowed the opposition more chances than any other team in the league (average of 13 per game).

We might have more defending to do but we should find creating chances much easier than we did against a team like Doncaster who had no intention of coming out.

 

[anglian blade]

Is that a 2 pt per game average at home only? Don't away games count now?

Our current average is 1.92 per game...

The point I was trying to make is that almost all the tops sides are finding it easier away from home than at home and that must be something to do with the way opposition teams play top sides not just something to do with United

 

[mpjacko]

So, why change anything?

So that we get 3 points per match instead of 1 so by time May comes, we secure the championship or second place without having to cock it up on the last few match days of the season.

 

[Maidenhead]

O

But by default that would suggest that you are happy with the 1-0 and 5-3 we've had at home and the numerous 0-1's away.

I've seen just two games so far Bournemouth 5-3 and Oldham 1-1 and have had to rely on comms and highlights for the others, but I'm not disappointed in the way we've conducted our business, with a weaker squad.

Bournemouth offered a lot more going forward, but mistakes galore at the back. Oldham was far more controlled in the sense that we contained a fiery opposition and but for a last gasp equaliser we could've said job done.

It seems we're far more cautious this season and whilst we seem to have goals throughout the team, the attitude this year is to avoid defeat. We haven't been devastating going forward but have also been very tight at the back, in the main.

Tinker with the home set up, does that then have a knock on effect on our away success?

We know that sides will come to the lane and have a go, which we should be able to cope with. But there are other sides who will come and shut up shop. Did Wilson recognise that the away games would be where we can get the 3 pts whilst home is a minimum draw?

And to keep this in perspective Oldham have currently won 3 of their last 4, the odd one out being at BDTBL. They are on a decent run of form and all is not always as it first seems

 

[blade too long]

Because we're not happy with

Blades 1-1 Bury
Blades 0-0 Doncaster
Blades 1-1 Notts County
Blades 1-1 Oldham
.

better than 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1

so , we drew 4 games, we win the 2 , or win 1 draw 1 this week our average creeeps over 2 points per game,

consistency is about over 46 games not a quarter of that,
man city were 7 points behind with 6 games to go in the prem last season

 

[Bergen Blade]

better than 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1

so , we drew 4 games, we win the 2 , or win 1 draw 1 this week our average creeeps over 2 points per game,

consistency is about over 46 games not a quarter of that,
man city were 7 points behind with 6 games to go in the prem last season

Are you saying that you don't want Wilson to do any tweaks and will be critical if he makes any for tomorrow?

 

[blade too long]

Wilson is doing fine , hes slowly building a side capable of going up , yes theres the odd hiccup
Whatever is needed he will sort out, I trust him to do it
No judge will be removing his star striker this time out
No one is out scoring us , so its half way there already