What’s our best XI?

[Champagneblade]

There is talk of few transfers this summer and the squad has been reduced by 10:

Tom Davies, Danny Ings, Ben Mee, Jairo Riedewald, Leo Hjelde, Tyler Bindon, Ki-Jana Hoever, Djibril Soumaré, Chiedozie Ogbene, Kalvin Phillips.

Based on those that remain, what would be your chosen XI and formation?

For me:
Cooper
Seriki Tanganga McGuinness McCallum
Arblaster Peck
Brooks O’Hare Hamer
Bamford

It does show the obvious weakness in central defence and central midfield.

Next best I could come up with was the below:

Cooper
Tanganga McGuinness McCallum
Seriki Brooks Arblaster Peck Burrows
Hamer
Bamford

Desperately need a proper defensive foil and centre back in the loan window and we seem weak at right back cover too.

It does also illustrate the gulf between the 2nd and 3rd tier. I remember the other lot thinking McGuinness was a legend when he was on loan at their place yet he looks very limited with us and useful in the more physical type games such as Stoke but not many more.

 

[1066blade]

All I'll say to that is, if that's the case our best eleven will be nowhere good enough .

 

[DifferentClass]

Think Blaster should be loaned out to an L1 club, at least while January.

 

[calcalcal]

2x defender 2x holding midfielder, an athletic attacking player and a physical striker
6 must haves to get anywhere near top 8

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

All I'll say to that is, if that's the case our best eleven will be nowhere good enough .

If we really going to be limited on what we bring in then we will have to rely on Wilder to do what he has done before and get the best out of what he has got.

 

[Aston max]

2x defender 2x holding midfielder, an athletic attacking player and a physical striker
6 must haves to get anywhere near top 8

Centre halves
Walker,Souttar ( I'd be pushing on these 2 )
CDM
Phillips ( if he gets a full pre season) ,
bissoma ( just left spuds ,put a contract under his nose and leave it there !!!
Gueye ( just left Everton but my mate says a lot of fans are baffled why they've let him go )
ATM
There's a lot of good young players available on loan Who've got things to prove.
And yes I know the 2 lads from spurs and Everton are over 30 but we need some experience in the squad with sydie and ollie.

​

 

[dellasthunderbolt]

Will any of the youngsters be around the squad for the season (One, Marsh, Blacker, Sasnauskas, Baptiste)

 

[Champagneblade]

Interesting article on Sheff Utd Way.

Has the 5 signings as Souttar, Phillips, Neal, Dobbin and Ross Stewart.

That would be 2 frees, 2 loans and then whether Souttar would be realistic as a buy or have to be a late loan.

How would folk feel about a line up that included those?

 

[DifferentClass]

Think Dobbin might turn out a bit of a donkey...

 

[Gin&Juice]

Think Blaster should be loaned out to an L1 club, at least while January.

Tough him up

 

[Dan Emery]

Think Blaster should be loaned out to an L1 club, at least while January.

Why don't we at least give him a full pre-season eh?

 

[jt64]

All I'll say to that is, if that's the case our best eleven will be nowhere good enough .

Good enough to do what?

 

[1066blade]

Challenge for promotion obvs.

 

[Champagneblade]

I think the working assumption is that we lose Peck and Hamer with the former primarily raising an eight figure sum, the latter a mid seven figure sum and Hamer shaving a good percentage off the wage bill. Open question on whether we also need to cash in on the likes of Burrows and Campbell.

There then seems to be a consensus that we will get a more conventional wide player with the likes of Dobbin, Watson, Clarke and Brereton-Diaz all being linked candidates, all of which would be loans unless BBD was the eventual option and a settlement with Saints was brokered.

Along with Brooks, that would appear to provide the first choice wide options. Potentially Oné, O’Hare and Chong provide competition and cover. It then leaves a question over whether Chris is sufficiently impressed with Ukaki and Nwanchukwu to add them to the mix as alternatives or Nwanchukwu them out the door! We also have Marsh in there not to mention the option to play another striker alongside Bamford. Do we actually need another striker if Cannon and Campbell are remaining and Marsh and Oné and O’Hare are in the squad with Bamford first pick?

With Riedewald off, you’d expect Arblaster and Rothwell to be there. We need at least a couple more so I’m not against seasoned pros like Neil, who I’m amazed is still only 24, and Phillips, if he proves his fitness. Every chance Chris doesn’t fancy Matos and we can cash in on him or at least get him off the wages for a season.

I really hope someone does get on the blower with Leicester. For us Souttar made a huge difference before he got injured and he seemed happy. He’ll have the benefit of a successful summer behind him. I doubt he feels a need to play in the third tier. Surely THE most logical thing is to offer up McGuinness to them. It could be a loan swap with us taking a big hit on the wages, it could be a straight loan for him but an obligation to buy for us, we have a successful season. McGuinness won’t want to be a bit part player with us, could excel with Leicester at that level, who in recent times are a “bigger” club so it wouldn’t be a step back and it would enable a reboot for him. Would seem logical all-round. Hope we do something like that.

The other thing for me is to get proper right back cover and competition that can also help out at centre back. I’d take this over a forward that SUW had suggested. Shame we didn’t get the QPR lad. Especially if McGuinness gets offloaded, I don’t mind Baptiste, Zatterstrom, Sasnauskas and RND being 4th choice centre back; you have to compromise somewhere, but I’d be loathe for them to be first back up.

There is still room for further wage savings through Grbic, Shackleton/ Polendakov/ Curtis moving off the wage bill.

Can’t see much moving until after the WC.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

How long’s the thread open for?
I’m up to 6 so far but it’s taken me a while.

 

[pollster]

Cooper
Tanganga McGuinness Zatterstrom
Seriki Peck Arblaster McCallum
Hamer Campbell Brooks

McCallum gets the nod over Burrows quality based on his athleticism
BUT will he be OK after injury?

Brilliant going forward under a sane, competent manager rather than this imbecile sot
so GET IT FORRARD !!

I expect 5 or more of them to be gone FAR TOO CHEAPLY
as a result of the imbecile and ClownsOH

But not shite like Tanganga
or mediocrity like floorboards OHare if anyone is daft enough to bid.

Disastrous season ahead with the imbecile in charge of transfers and
anti-football tactics that have failed us for all his last three seasons
if not four

 

[DifferentClass]

Cooper
Tanganga McGuinness Zatterstrom
Seriki Peck Arblaster McCallum
Hamer Campbell Brooks

McCallum gets the nod over Burrows quality based on his athleticism
BUT will he be OK after injury?

Brilliant going forward under a sane, competent manager rather than this imbecile sot
so GET IT FORRARD !!

I expect 5 or more of them to be gone FAR TOO CHEAPLY
as a result of the imbecile and ClownsOH

But not shite like Tanganga
or mediocrity like floorboards OHare if anyone is daft enough to bid.

Disastrous season ahead with the imbecile in charge of transfers and
anti-football tactics that have failed us for all his last three seasons
if not four

WEERZ BAMFORD

 

[10-0 win]

Any chances of a new 'peck' or 'blaster' emerging from u21. Some of them coming of age.

 

[pollster]

WEERZ BAMFORD

Quite simply.
My tactics are to get the ball HIGH and WIDE EARLY
For early crosses in front of a retreating defence
and for an hour till he tires (God knows why)
Campbell gets there far QUICKER and with more determination than Bamford
He also scores some cracking goals eg each year at QPR from distance when up front alone
As can happen IF you are genuinely under pressure to a good team
Not that there was one in this division last season but WHU at least will be this

Apart from that Bamford knows Wilder is a journeyman manager
relying on journeymen like him
and can (and does) stroll through games as he is under no pressure for his place

 

[pollster]

Will any of the youngsters be around the squad for the season (One, Marsh, Blacker, Sasnauskas, Baptiste)

No chance - whilst Wilder remains in charge

He remains a third rate journeyman manager who depends on 'experienced' ie expensive has beens
to sort out the team for him.
He has had the nerve to say that lack of 'EXPERIENCE' was the reason we failed last season
No his bat shirt crazy tactics and formations
which generally contradict all the good habits that were drilled into him (as a decent player I liked)
(You know. The 'experience' that got Rothwell sent off in his first game and Phillips sent off in his first and only start.)

And despite the young players Seriki Peck Brooks starring last season
He has sold best young player Brooks for a fraction of his potential value
He has brought in 30+ Rotweiller for two years rather than the one
I thought that (like Ben Mee) he made a big difference last season.
But FFS he can only play 60 mins a week.
Why I have no idea.
He has brought in 34 yo Docherty.
On his wages to play whether Seriki is here or not.
He could turn out to be a dangerous signing.
On the basis he says he expects us to be promoted!!!
BS your way out of that again Wilder.
He has brought in a young player to play (out of position again) from Brentford ie unlike him a recognised judge of young players
He's after more apparently eg Man City CB
He's supposed to be chasing (can't help thinking about the Andrew Lawrence joke about 'chasing' fat girls) Phillips AGAIN
after his great success last season and whose last five years have been as successful on the field as mine
- and I haven't been able to walk up or down stairs normally that entire period
What's his excuse?
It's about as much a chase as pinning down the imbecile to an extra year.
Where the **** could HE go with any sort of similar wage?
An obvious deflection and cover for the two none paying shysters or whatever they are officially now after none payments in a purchase contract?
I am still hoping for repossession and an immediate injunction to curtail transactions on all significant assets


Remember
He came in at the start - got rid of Adams DCL Ramsdale and Ben Whiteman from the squad and brought in two 30 year olds Duffy and Clarke
Saudi49er told us about his fundamental short termism and how he had to step in with such as Peck
Although why he brought Wilder back knowing his history and Heckingbottoms is beyond me.

One I would sooner have in the squad than Cannon Balls but it won't happen. He will be sold.
Who would buy Cannon?
I would sooner keep Marsh to play in his correct position as a ten than Donovan playing there - which he won't
I would sooner have Blacker as sub centre mid than Rothwell let alone the million plus in the bank re luny fee and wages
Baptiste has looked Ok - but with me missing the Levante game WE HAVE NOT PLAYED ANYONE so he/we have have not been tested.
From what I have seen I would sooner have HIM in the team than Captain Clown aka Tanganga
Who doesn't need an armband so much as a red nose.
An accident waiting to happen whether he is Mr Angry (he was told off by the Ref v Huddersfield reserves) Mr Dozy Mr Clumsy Mr Small Mr Slow or Mr. Bean when it comes to his heading and passing
Not to mention that throwin which was the funniest thing I have seen on the football field since one lad kicked a solid wooden pole corner flag trying to take a corner and nearly broke his foot.
Although in fairness I did not see myself when testing my Archillees after months of pain go flat on my arse on a muddy semi pro pitch in front of a large crowd of U-18 parents and gfs etc.
Whoever scouted and sanctioned this imbecilic signing needs to be outed and that includes clown managers Selles (who said he was the one he wanted) and Wilder who made him Captain from day one.
and has refused to leave him out. (When not suspended of course)
Baptiste may have been playing but that is largely to spite McGuiness and Zatterstrom who he wants to remove to bring in more journeymen.
Zatterstrom because as I said and Wilder has proved - he does NOT do OUR young players if at all possible.
Again. I would sooner keep both than Captain Clown - and the wages would be able the same IF we could actually move him on.
And lets face it.
Football is full of clown managers at the moment.

 

[Silent Blade]

No chance - whilst Wilder remains in charge

He remains a third rate journeyman manager who depends on 'experienced' ie expensive has beens
to sort out the team for him.
He has had the nerve to say that lack of 'EXPERIENCE' was the reason we failed last season
No his bat shirt crazy tactics and formations
which generally contradict all the good habits that were drilled into him (as a decent player I liked)
(You know. The 'experience' that got Rothwell sent off in his first game and Phillips sent off in his first and only start.)

And despite the young players Seriki Peck Brooks starring last season
He has sold best young player Brooks for a fraction of his potential value
He has brought in 30+ Rotweiller for two years rather than the one
I thought that (like Ben Mee) he made a big difference last season.
But FFS he can only play 60 mins a week.
Why I have no idea.
He has brought in 34 yo Docherty.
On his wages to play whether Seriki is here or not.
He could turn out to be a dangerous signing.
On the basis he says he expects us to be promoted!!!
BS your way out of that again Wilder.
He has brought in a young player to play (out of position again) from Brentford ie unlike him a recognised judge of young players
He's after more apparently eg Man City CB
He's supposed to be chasing (can't help thinking about the Andrew Lawrence joke about 'chasing' fat girls) Phillips AGAIN
after his great success last season and whose last five years have been as successful on the field as mine
- and I haven't been able to walk up or down stairs normally that entire period
What's his excuse?
It's about as much a chase as pinning down the imbecile to an extra year.
Where the **** could HE go with any sort of similar wage?
An obvious deflection and cover for the two none paying shysters or whatever they are officially now after none payments in a purchase contract?
I am still hoping for repossession and an immediate injunction to curtail transactions on all significant assets


Remember
He came in at the start - got rid of Adams DCL Ramsdale and Ben Whiteman from the squad and brought in two 30 year olds Duffy and Clarke
Saudi49er told us about his fundamental short termism and how he had to step in with such as Peck
Although why he brought Wilder back knowing his history and Heckingbottoms is beyond me.

One I would sooner have in the squad than Cannon Balls but it won't happen. He will be sold.
Who would buy Cannon?
I would sooner keep Marsh to play in his correct position as a ten than Donovan playing there - which he won't
I would sooner have Blacker as sub centre mid than Rothwell let alone the million plus in the bank re luny fee and wages
Baptiste has looked Ok - but with me missing the Levante game WE HAVE NOT PLAYED ANYONE so he/we have have not been tested.
From what I have seen I would sooner have HIM in the team than Captain Clown aka Tanganga
Who doesn't need an armband so much as a red nose.
An accident waiting to happen whether he is Mr Angry (he was told off by the Ref v Huddersfield reserves) Mr Dozy Mr Clumsy Mr Small Mr Slow or Mr. Bean when it comes to his heading and passing
Not to mention that throwin which was the funniest thing I have seen on the football field since one lad kicked a solid wooden pole corner flag trying to take a corner and nearly broke his foot.
Although in fairness I did not see myself when testing my Archillees after months of pain go flat on my arse on a muddy semi pro pitch in front of a large crowd of U-18 parents and gfs etc.
Whoever scouted and sanctioned this imbecilic signing needs to be outed and that includes clown managers Selles (who said he was the one he wanted) and Wilder who made him Captain from day one.
and has refused to leave him out. (When not suspended of course)
Baptiste may have been playing but that is largely to spite McGuiness and Zatterstrom who he wants to remove to bring in more journeymen.
Zatterstrom because as I said and Wilder has proved - he does NOT do OUR young players if at all possible.
Again. I would sooner keep both than Captain Clown - and the wages would be able the same IF we could actually move him on.
And lets face it.
Football is full of clown managers at the moment.

 

[bibbity bobbity boo]

No chance - whilst Wilder remains in charge

He remains a third rate journeyman manager who depends on 'experienced' ie expensive has beens
to sort out the team for him.
He has had the nerve to say that lack of 'EXPERIENCE' was the reason we failed last season
No his bat shirt crazy tactics and formations
which generally contradict all the good habits that were drilled into him (as a decent player I liked)
(You know. The 'experience' that got Rothwell sent off in his first game and Phillips sent off in his first and only start.)

And despite the young players Seriki Peck Brooks starring last season
He has sold best young player Brooks for a fraction of his potential value
He has brought in 30+ Rotweiller for two years rather than the one
I thought that (like Ben Mee) he made a big difference last season.
But FFS he can only play 60 mins a week.
Why I have no idea.
He has brought in 34 yo Docherty.
On his wages to play whether Seriki is here or not.
He could turn out to be a dangerous signing.
On the basis he says he expects us to be promoted!!!
BS your way out of that again Wilder.
He has brought in a young player to play (out of position again) from Brentford ie unlike him a recognised judge of young players
He's after more apparently eg Man City CB
He's supposed to be chasing (can't help thinking about the Andrew Lawrence joke about 'chasing' fat girls) Phillips AGAIN
after his great success last season and whose last five years have been as successful on the field as mine
- and I haven't been able to walk up or down stairs normally that entire period
What's his excuse?
It's about as much a chase as pinning down the imbecile to an extra year.
Where the **** could HE go with any sort of similar wage?
An obvious deflection and cover for the two none paying shysters or whatever they are officially now after none payments in a purchase contract?
I am still hoping for repossession and an immediate injunction to curtail transactions on all significant assets


Remember
He came in at the start - got rid of Adams DCL Ramsdale and Ben Whiteman from the squad and brought in two 30 year olds Duffy and Clarke
Saudi49er told us about his fundamental short termism and how he had to step in with such as Peck
Although why he brought Wilder back knowing his history and Heckingbottoms is beyond me.

One I would sooner have in the squad than Cannon Balls but it won't happen. He will be sold.
Who would buy Cannon?
I would sooner keep Marsh to play in his correct position as a ten than Donovan playing there - which he won't
I would sooner have Blacker as sub centre mid than Rothwell let alone the million plus in the bank re luny fee and wages
Baptiste has looked Ok - but with me missing the Levante game WE HAVE NOT PLAYED ANYONE so he/we have have not been tested.
From what I have seen I would sooner have HIM in the team than Captain Clown aka Tanganga
Who doesn't need an armband so much as a red nose.
An accident waiting to happen whether he is Mr Angry (he was told off by the Ref v Huddersfield reserves) Mr Dozy Mr Clumsy Mr Small Mr Slow or Mr. Bean when it comes to his heading and passing
Not to mention that throwin which was the funniest thing I have seen on the football field since one lad kicked a solid wooden pole corner flag trying to take a corner and nearly broke his foot.
Although in fairness I did not see myself when testing my Archillees after months of pain go flat on my arse on a muddy semi pro pitch in front of a large crowd of U-18 parents and gfs etc.
Whoever scouted and sanctioned this imbecilic signing needs to be outed and that includes clown managers Selles (who said he was the one he wanted) and Wilder who made him Captain from day one.
and has refused to leave him out. (When not suspended of course)
Baptiste may have been playing but that is largely to spite McGuiness and Zatterstrom who he wants to remove to bring in more journeymen.
Zatterstrom because as I said and Wilder has proved - he does NOT do OUR young players if at all possible.
Again. I would sooner keep both than Captain Clown - and the wages would be able the same IF we could actually move him on.
And lets face it.
Football is full of clown managers at the moment.

War and Peace is a shorter read than that.

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Can't be bothered to read all that, gave yourself away when you blamed CW for Rothwell and Phillips for getting sent off.
Once the players cross that line it's their choice whether they make a bad tackle or not. It's got fuck all to do with the manager.

 

[Bladesman101]

No chance - whilst Wilder remains in charge

He remains a third rate journeyman manager who depends on 'experienced' ie expensive has beens
to sort out the team for him.
He has had the nerve to say that lack of 'EXPERIENCE' was the reason we failed last season
No his bat shirt crazy tactics and formations
which generally contradict all the good habits that were drilled into him (as a decent player I liked)
(You know. The 'experience' that got Rothwell sent off in his first game and Phillips sent off in his first and only start.)

And despite the young players Seriki Peck Brooks starring last season
He has sold best young player Brooks for a fraction of his potential value
He has brought in 30+ Rotweiller for two years rather than the one
I thought that (like Ben Mee) he made a big difference last season.
But FFS he can only play 60 mins a week.
Why I have no idea.
He has brought in 34 yo Docherty.
On his wages to play whether Seriki is here or not.
He could turn out to be a dangerous signing.
On the basis he says he expects us to be promoted!!!
BS your way out of that again Wilder.
He has brought in a young player to play (out of position again) from Brentford ie unlike him a recognised judge of young players
He's after more apparently eg Man City CB
He's supposed to be chasing (can't help thinking about the Andrew Lawrence joke about 'chasing' fat girls) Phillips AGAIN
after his great success last season and whose last five years have been as successful on the field as mine
- and I haven't been able to walk up or down stairs normally that entire period
What's his excuse?
It's about as much a chase as pinning down the imbecile to an extra year.
Where the **** could HE go with any sort of similar wage?
An obvious deflection and cover for the two none paying shysters or whatever they are officially now after none payments in a purchase contract?
I am still hoping for repossession and an immediate injunction to curtail transactions on all significant assets


Remember
He came in at the start - got rid of Adams DCL Ramsdale and Ben Whiteman from the squad and brought in two 30 year olds Duffy and Clarke
Saudi49er told us about his fundamental short termism and how he had to step in with such as Peck
Although why he brought Wilder back knowing his history and Heckingbottoms is beyond me.

One I would sooner have in the squad than Cannon Balls but it won't happen. He will be sold.
Who would buy Cannon?
I would sooner keep Marsh to play in his correct position as a ten than Donovan playing there - which he won't
I would sooner have Blacker as sub centre mid than Rothwell let alone the million plus in the bank re luny fee and wages
Baptiste has looked Ok - but with me missing the Levante game WE HAVE NOT PLAYED ANYONE so he/we have have not been tested.
From what I have seen I would sooner have HIM in the team than Captain Clown aka Tanganga
Who doesn't need an armband so much as a red nose.
An accident waiting to happen whether he is Mr Angry (he was told off by the Ref v Huddersfield reserves) Mr Dozy Mr Clumsy Mr Small Mr Slow or Mr. Bean when it comes to his heading and passing
Not to mention that throwin which was the funniest thing I have seen on the football field since one lad kicked a solid wooden pole corner flag trying to take a corner and nearly broke his foot.
Although in fairness I did not see myself when testing my Archillees after months of pain go flat on my arse on a muddy semi pro pitch in front of a large crowd of U-18 parents and gfs etc.
Whoever scouted and sanctioned this imbecilic signing needs to be outed and that includes clown managers Selles (who said he was the one he wanted) and Wilder who made him Captain from day one.
and has refused to leave him out. (When not suspended of course)
Baptiste may have been playing but that is largely to spite McGuiness and Zatterstrom who he wants to remove to bring in more journeymen.
Zatterstrom because as I said and Wilder has proved - he does NOT do OUR young players if at all possible.
Again. I would sooner keep both than Captain Clown - and the wages would be able the same IF we could actually move him on.
And lets face it.
Football is full of clown managers at the moment.

signing players like Barry for £2m just after paying back local businesses back pennies on the pound, disgraceful behaviour, get back to sty

 

[247Blade]

Ask again on 1st September

 

[Sydney Blade]

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Sir Neil Warnockth II

 

[Sothall_Blade]

4-2-3-1
Cooper
Seriki Tangangs Riedewald McCallum
Rothwell Peck
Donovan O’Hare Hamer
Bamford

Subs:- Davies, Doherty, Baptiste, Burrows, Arblaster, Chong, One, Campbell, Cannon