VAR to be used in Championship Play Off's.

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I stopped celebrating goals in the PL as you never knew what VAR would do next. Totally ruining the pure joy of the game.

VAR will be here to stay but it should never take centre stage and should just be used for the big clear and obvious errors.

The way it is used to micro analyse every goal, without the proper tools to do so is ridiculous, with officials shying away from making real time decisions to rely on VAR afterwards. Offsides were never judged on such fine margins before, and its impossible to do so, so VAR should just stick with the 'clear and obvious error rule' for all decisions.
 



As far as I am concerned, the playoffs are part of the Championship season and therefore VAR should not be a part of it. I also don’t like the ruling in the FA Cup where it is used in some ties and not others. I don’t think it is consistently applied when in use and I would rather keep the joy of spontaneous goal celebrations.
 
Calling it now. We finally score a meaningful goal in a playoff final on the big stage, go absolutely bananas and then it gets chalked off on a technicality.

VAR ruins the spontaneous fan experience.

I know, I can see it, get a last second equaliser, crowd goes mental, VAR intervenes, fans gutted. It really sucked for West Ham when that happened to Declan Rice, didn't it?
 
I stopped celebrating goals in the PL as you never knew what VAR would do next. Totally ruining the pure joy of the game.
Exactly. Why the fuck anyone wants this fucking shit anywhere near the fucking game is fucking beyond me.

Remember Robinson's goal against QPR. Now imagine it with fucking VAR.
 
So our end of season scenario is:

Might not make it into playoffs, because we have to play the newly crowned champions. If we do miss out, we could be replaced in the playoff spots by the team now managed by our former Messiah.

If we do make it, we will be playing games again that are adjudged by VAR (because that went so well before), despite this division not using VAR all season.

I mean, this is United, what could POSSIBLY go wrong??
 
I hear you, but this season I've grown tired of watching teams spontaneously score a goal that shouldn't have stood, winning a penalty that wasn't and having our own valid goals and penalty shouts go the wrong way.

VAR is many things, but it's still better than shit referees.

Well the problem is that you introduce shit VAR referees...
 
As far as I am concerned, the playoffs are part of the Championship season and therefore VAR should not be a part of it. I also don’t like the ruling in the FA Cup where it is used in some ties and not others. I don’t think it is consistently applied when in use and I would rather keep the joy of spontaneous goal celebrations.
Understood, but the play offs are for promotion to the Premiership where VAR is in place, so it makes sense to use it.
I agree with you that the spontaneity in the Championship has been great, but there have been so many bad, important decisions that I prefer VAR if used properly.
 
Understood, but the play offs are for promotion to the Premiership where VAR is in place, so it makes sense to use it.
I agree with you that the spontaneity in the Championship has been great, but there have been so many bad, important decisions that I prefer VAR if used properly.

What? Are you not happy with refs giving penalties for fouls outside the box? It evens itself out over the season so I am told.
 



I agree with you that the spontaneity in the Championship has been great, but there have been so many bad, important decisions that I prefer VAR if used properly.
And that’s a big if. They’ve had 3 seasons at it now and it’s still as controversial.
 
If VAR is not going to be used then you have to question why EPL officials have been appointed. It took us around 10 matches at the beginning of the season to get used to Championship refs who allowed the game to flow and were having none of players collapsing to the floor like they had been shot.

Now we are faced with officials who are likely to blow the whistle if a player sneezes on another. Marriner will be better than Mr look at me Oliver who loves being the centre of attention on the pitch. Having said that a stop start game at the City Ground may suit us.

Whatever happens now they can't just introduce it for the final. The window has now past. Keep to the current EFL rules. If we're going to get dodgy decisions against us I'd rather it be down to incompetence than the application of Slide rule Rileys alternative interpretation of VAR.
 
Keep to the current EFL rules.

I must have missed the bit of the laws of the game that says that referees have to call the game differently in the Football League compared to other competitions?
 
I must have missed the bit of the laws of the game that says that referees have to call the game differently in the Football League compared to other competitions?
Current rules that don't allow for use of VAR in EFL.
 
VAR in the championship playoff final confirmed:



Although no decision yet on whether to use it in the league one and two finals, weirdly…
 
If VAR is not going to be used then you have to question why EPL officials have been appointed. It took us around 10 matches at the beginning of the season to get used to Championship refs who allowed the game to flow and were having none of players collapsing to the floor like they had been shot.

Now we are faced with officials who are likely to blow the whistle if a player sneezes on another. Marriner will be better than Mr look at me Oliver who loves being the centre of attention on the pitch. Having said that a stop start game at the City Ground may suit us.

Whatever happens now they can't just introduce it for the final. The window has now past. Keep to the current EFL rules. If we're going to get dodgy decisions against us I'd rather it be down to incompetence than the application of Slide rule Rileys alternative interpretation of VAR.
If that's the case then it certainly gives us the advantage over Forest (and to a lesser degree Hudders an advantage over Luton), being more familiar with Prem refereeing.
 
VAR in the championship playoff final confirmed:



Although no decision yet on whether to use it in the league one and two finals, weirdly…

Florist forum suggesting only reason it wasn't used in semis was because Luton didn't have the time to set up the infrastructure at their ground. The 4 championship clubs had agreed to its use. Not sure if League 1 and 2 have been consulted yet.
 
The problem with VAR is not the VAR itself it's the tossers who administer it. If it was used properly like in Rugby and cricket by competent people it would enable the correct decisions to be made rather than having a situation where a referee gets a key decision wrong and the whole outcome of the game is changed e.g. an off side goal is given, a penalty is given/not given, a sending off etc.. Although I haven't really watched the EPL this season I believe that VAR is much better applied than before and is working much better. I would hope that for example our goal against Villa would have been given.
 
It was supposed to eliminate the OBVIOUS ERRORS not the slide rule debateable stuff.
But I do agree the clowns administering it are the ones to blame for its crap reputation.
Having said that it’s ok referees ignoring simulation, but too often they fall for it
Using VAR to clamp dot on simulation & apply it retrospectively with yellow or red cards would be more of a deterrent
 



If that's the case then it certainly gives us the advantage over Forest (and to a lesser degree Hudders an advantage over Luton), being more familiar with Prem refereeing.
Can't possibly be a prem referee otherwise he'd have given us a free kick for Basham's blatant dive
 

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