Unpopular opinion: the celebrations were a bit OTT


FMBlade1 said:
When did SWFC last beat us?

13 years or so. We have had great dominance over SWFC since 2017.

I don't think Man U went 13 years without losing to Man City.
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It might be 13 years since they last beat us, but we have only played them 7 times since then.
As PeterNdlovu081 mentioned, going into the game it did not feel like it was going to be a formality at all. Far from it.
I think registering the biggest ever away margin of victory in a Sheffield derby in a (so far) terrible season is something to celebrate.
 
bruce said:
It might be 13 years since they last beat us, but we have only played them 7 times since then.
As PeterNdlovu081 mentioned, going into the game it did not feel like it was going to be a formality at all. Far from it.
I think registering the biggest ever away margin of victory in a Sheffield derby in a (so far) terrible season is something to celebrate.
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It wasn't a formality 24.000 of them turned up....

Think we just ended Bannans football carreer, he will quit after shitting the bed and hiding for 80 minutes, watch them all turn on him now.. surplus to requirements even before the new money turns up, you watch them fickle fans bin him off..

The OP must not live or work in sheffield if thats his reponse after that fantastic hammering.

Should have scored 6...fingers crossed for the return at the lane.
 
Tezza1889 said:
It wasn't a formality 24.000 of them turned up....

Think we just ended Bannans football carreer, he will quit after shitting the bed and hiding for 80 minutes, watch them all turn on him now.. surplus to requirements even before the new money turns up, you watch them fickle fans bin him off..

The OP must not live or work in sheffield if thats his reponse after that fantastic hammering.

Should have scored 6...fingers crossed for the return at the lane.
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We beat them in 3rd gear, they had nothing. It was like Ant vs Boot.

Worth celebratingIMG_2987.gif
 
GymClassHero said:
The City/Rovers and Forest/County examples aren't really a proportional comparison. Notts county are in the fourth tier and at a guess average under 10k, while Forest are in Europe. Obviously the disparity isn't quite as vast between the Bristol clubs, but one is still undeniably more dominant and the bigger club.

Us and the pigs are/were on a level footing, and prior to that we were regarded as the underdogs. It's only the Millennials and above that regard us as the better and more successful side.

With that said, a small part of me was cringing towards the end. By all means celebrate but given our general level of performance and results this season I am inclined to agree it was a bit OTT.

Still loved it!
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False

Those of us that grew up 60s & 70s only knew the Wendy as a shit third division club.

They had a run during the 80s and early 90s is all.

Older, bitter, shitter
 
I had an interesting interaction with a friend on Social Media after he commented on a post/image I posted about the City being red.
He's a Barnsley fan and criticised the post saying that it was akin to him as a Barnsley fan celebrating in the way we did if they beat a Dearne and District 11 and made reference to their weak side and our side costing over 100 Million and it being the expected result.
I pointed out that it was at our bitter rivals in a game on their own patch in a season where we have had little to shout about (so far).
It then got me thinking (and I responded as such) that there is a misguided belief that we have a squad full of multi million pound signings. Looking at the team that started, we had
Cooper - 2-3 Million signing
McCallum - Free
Mee - Free
Tanganga - 5-6 Million
Seriki - Academy
O'Hare - Free
Riedewald - Free
Peck - Academy
Brooks - Academy
Ings - Free
Campbell - Free

Only 2 players we have paid a fee for.
Of the subs
Hamer - Big fee 10-15 Million
Cannon - Decent fee 5 Million rising on clauses?
Burrows - 2-3 Million
Bamford - Free
McGuinness - 3 Million?
Cant remember who else but dint think any fees were paid.

Yeah we have a few players who cost some money but a large part of that squad were frees or academy players who came in to replace the players lost after our relegation and also after losing players like Ahmedhodzic, Vini Souza and Moore for decent sized fees.

I dont see much wrong with the celebrations and you can guarantee that their lot would have gone crazy with celebrations if they won (remember their celebrations and throwing shirts into the crowd after their 0-0 victories not so long ago?)
 
FMBlade1 said:
The fans can celebrate as much as they want of course (don't need my permission ;) ) , its the players and management about which I am referring.
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I kind of take your point FMB, but I guess if you're wanting players to be 'up for it' with all the passion and emotion that requires, rather than the 'It's just another game' Robson (was it?) quoted, then you have to expect the outpouring of passion and emotion when the aim is realised.

Reminds me of boxers who win a fight in the first couple of rounds, needing to go straight to the gym to work off the rest of the aggression and pent up energy that wasn't used.
 
FMBlade1 said:
(Putting this on a separate post so not to clog the main one up)

Yesterday sort of reminded me of this:



Yes we have had a miserable season, and if its good for morale then I'm all for it, but if we put in a dire performance against Portsmouth we will all feel a bit silly.

Delighted with the win, but with how weak they were, we should expect to win 'as standard'. They are a league one club, we are not (yet). Waddle, as much as we don't like him, was right- they had a threadbare squad. We should aspire to be more than simply being better than them.

Appreciate this will probably be very unpopular and I'm in a minority I know but it did seem a bit tinpot taking team photos (even if we did it last year) and took a tiny bit of the shine away.

We (players and management) should have just walked around applauding the fans as usual and make then head down the tunnel and focus on preparing for Portsmouth.
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Shut up 🤣🤣🤣
 
Blades Glory Owls Down said:
I had an interesting interaction with a friend on Social Media after he commented on a post/image I posted about the City being red.
He's a Barnsley fan and criticised the post saying that it was akin to him as a Barnsley fan celebrating in the way we did if they beat a Dearne and District 11 and made reference to their weak side and our side costing over 100 Million and it being the expected result.
I pointed out that it was at our bitter rivals in a game on their own patch in a season where we have had little to shout about (so far).
It then got me thinking (and I responded as such) that there is a misguided belief that we have a squad full of multi million pound signings. Looking at the team that started, we had
Cooper - 2-3 Million signing
McCallum - Free
Mee - Free
Tanganga - 5-6 Million
Seriki - Academy
O'Hare - Free
Riedewald - Free
Peck - Academy
Brooks - Academy
Ings - Free
Campbell - Free

Only 2 players we have paid a fee for.
Of the subs
Hamer - Big fee 10-15 Million
Cannon - Decent fee 5 Million rising on clauses?
Burrows - 2-3 Million
Bamford - Free
McGuinness - 3 Million?
Cant remember who else but dint think any fees were paid.

Yeah we have a few players who cost some money but a large part of that squad were frees or academy players who came in to replace the players lost after our relegation and also after losing players like Ahmedhodzic, Vini Souza and Moore for decent sized fees.

I dont see much wrong with the celebrations and you can guarantee that their lot would have gone crazy with celebrations if they won (remember their celebrations and throwing shirts into the crowd after their 0-0 victories not so long ago?)
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They really need to get their story straight though. When convenient we are an expensively assembled team of premier league quality players that we attained by the cheat code that is parachute payments. At other times the same players are rubbish, no idea what the fuss is all about, they wouldn’t make our starting 11. Peck is a great example, they can’t wait to say how he has never shown anything, that Amass is much better and they know who they would rather have. Ditto Hamer, apparently not as good as he is made out to be and is a poor man’s Bannan.
As usual they twist things to suit their narrative.
 
Fair play to those who read what I actually said and engaged with it constructively and respectfully even if disagreeing vehemently.

Judging by the reaction I was right in predicting that my views on this would be in the minority (around 3-5%).

C'est la vie- and this is exactly what a forum is for! I do hope others are not deterred from sharing unpopular opinions in the future.

Ultimately, I hope this all doesn't matter and we move on and beat Portsmouth etc. and salvage our season.
 
FMBlade1 said:
Fair play to those who read what I actually said and engaged with it constructively and respectfully even if disagreeing vehemently.

Judging by the reaction I was right in predicting that my views on this would be in the minority (around 3-5%).

C'est la vie- and this is exactly what a forum is for! I do hope others are not deterred from sharing unpopular opinions in the future.

Ultimately, I hope this all doesn't matter and we move on and beat Portsmouth etc. and salvage our season.
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I'm going to be as respectful as I possibly can.

This and the OP is the worst set of drivel I've read since I started surfing the internet. It's that bad.

Imagine living such an utterly joyless life.

You've allowed a few tweets from clickbait accounts get in your head and make you feel you shouldn't enjoy a 3-0 win against our biggest rivals away from home. It's kind of embarrassing.

Football is meant to be enjoyed, I'd have wanted us to celebrate like that if we were playing their under 14s.
 

Slim Man said:
I'm going to be as respectful as I possibly can.

This and the OP is the worst set of drivel I've read since I started surfing the internet. It's that bad.

Imagine living such an utterly joyless life.

You've allowed a few tweets from clickbait accounts get in your head and make you feel you shouldn't enjoy a 3-0 win against our biggest rivals away from home. It's kind of embarrassing.

Football is meant to be enjoyed, I'd have wanted us to celebrate like that if we were playing their under 14s.
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I think it's been mentioned once already on here by someone, the players are screwed either way. If they had just gone down the tunnel at full time I do think there'd be a much higher outrage that this was just seen as another calender victory. If we had played Stocksbridge Steels and celebrated like that then maybe comment but this a different matter.

I have said a few times I do honestly think the difference is Wilder though. There's going to be players in our squad that don't overly see the derby as a particularly huge thing but Wilder does and for all the jokes we make about it he does seem to be able to get that passion of the derby running through them even if they can see just how much it means to him personally. I think maybe besides Bannan and Palmer Wednesday haven't had much of a manager, squad or a set of players that seemingly gives that much of a shit about the derby. When I watched the 4-2 bouncing day win I got the feeling that Wilder and Carlos really understood what that game meant to everyone in the ground that day and both teams showed it. There has to be credit given to Wednesday fighting back to bring it level and credit to us for getting 2 more goals after losing the lead. Regardless of us winning that was an immense derby match for any spectator.
 
It baffles me this type of talk, I don't care if we beat their under 9s, I am still celebrating - as they would with us. It is competitive football in a rivalry where the modern game of football first started. One of the most popular chants for both sides refers to a match in 1979, when I was one year old, now I am 47.
I just do not get this whole 'embarrassing' thing that everyone pulls out when a team / fans do something they do not like. If you want a club that is together and a fan base that is all in - like many people say we are not - then that is the type of thing you do.

It seems like there is now a set of rules of when you are allowed to be happy:

When you can celebrate
  • You are not very good (although apparently we should not celebrate because we are in bottom three)
  • The team you beat are above you and doing well
  • The team you beat are not in any type of trouble whatsoever
  • You have players that your past success did not pay for
  • The team you have played do not any squad issues whatsoever

Even then, your celebration must match the situation at the time - don't celebrate too long or go too far to avoid the embarrassment factor !!!

I literally spend £500 a year to take a chance to jump up and down on the spot as much as possible whilst shouting 'yes get in', of course I am going to celebrate when we beat Wednesday and of course the players and staff should do as well.
 
Edgar Allan Poo said:
It's just like a band taking a picture with the fans in the background after a gig. Let's make it a thing and do it every time we win (a corner).
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I'm with this idea. Sparks did it at Royal Albert Hall and Gene did it a couple of weeks ago at Hammersmith. I can't see what the fuss is all about. Fans kept behind so players and staff get a photo with fans behind.
 
Feckin hell cant wait to see the celebrations by the deluded if they manage to actually score a goal in the return fixture in Feb 26....i wont matter tho as they will be picking the ball out of their net numerous times.
 
Kenilworth said:
False

Those of us that grew up 60s & 70s only knew the Wendy as a shit third division club.

They had a run during the 80s and early 90s is all.

Older, bitter, shitter
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I was first taken to the lane as a boy when the Currie and Woodward team was in its pomp. Being an out of towner I didn’t even know SWFC existed till the 1979/89 season…It was a fucking shock to me
 
FMBlade1 said:
Roy Keane would agree with me.
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Are you nine years old?

Which is apt really - as all this clickbait bollocks about us over-celebrating is the same tall-poppy syndrome you'd get for standing out in any way at school.

Let the rest of the modern football world embrace their soulless global fanbase, and their collection of indifferent mercenaries.
We give a huge toss if we beat our local rivals, and whatever the circumstances - I'd always want us to make a fuss about it.
 
To be fair, the verbal and physical (vapes, lighters, bottles, etc.) abuse directed at the players and Wilder, must have an effect. There's another post called ''Warriors'' and I expect they did feel like they'd been involved in a battle. Therefore, when you come out the other side, you want to release the adrenalin.

I don't think you can look at the celebrations in isolation. Personally, I celebrated much more on Sunday than when we won there last time. Same with the kids too, and that was in our living room. Like others have said, it's nice that occasionally football can move one, like in the old days.
 
FMBlade1 - respect for you having the right to air your opinion, but to quote a good old Sheffield saying “Tha’s talking bollocks kid”

These Wed fans are full of shit, have ready made excuses & delusional strategies for every conceivable outcome.

Echo what a previous poster said about us being out of sight, both as a club and league position - we should.

Wilder was so right when he asserted that his vision was to turn the whole City red & white, we should always and at every possible occasion keep our foot firmly on their wind pipe.
 
Agree with much of the above, but two things can true at the same time- imho it was ott to take a team photo like we did, though I accept and respect the majority on here don't agree.

Personally I would like to reach a stage of us being indifferent to them “The opposite of love isn’t hate; it’s complete and utter indifference.”

That's how Man U were towards Man City for decades- indifference is the greatest insult there can be.

 
FMBlade1 said:
Agree with much of the above, but two things can true at the same time- imho it was ott to take a team photo like we did, though I accept and respect the majority on here don't agree.

Personally I would like to reach a stage of us being indifferent to them “The opposite of love isn’t hate; it’s complete and utter indifference.”

That's how Man U were towards Man City for decades- indifference is the greatest insult there can be.

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The irony here is that refusing to shake someone's hand isn't indifference, it's hatred.

Gary Neville famously hated Man City.

Schmeichel showed indifference by just smiling and not reacting to it.
 

Kenilworth said:
False

Those of us that grew up 60s & 70s only knew the Wendy as a shit third division club.

They had a run during the 80s and early 90s is all.

Older, bitter, shitter
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The 70s maybe. The 60s, particularly around the 1966 cup final, were as bad and as insufferable as they have ever been since.

I mean, they had an open top bus parade to celebrate losing for fucks sake. And we get criticism for celebrating a 3-0 win?
 
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