Title

[HeCanDoMagic]

Do we still have a chance of winning it?

Long shot I know.

Burnley’s form and remaining fixtures are interesting though;

Blackburn (a) - Blackburn desperate to win for POs
Bristol City (a) - tricky game as we found out
Cardiff (h) - might need to win to stay up

Talking shite aren’t I?

 

[BettingBlade]

Do we still have a chance of winning it?

Long shot I know.

Burnley’s form and remaining fixtures are interesting though;

Blackburn (a) - Blackburn desperate to win for POs
Bristol City (a) - tricky game as we found out
Cardiff (h) - might need to win to stay up

Talking shite aren’t I?

Would have been more interesting if we’d beat them at Turf Moor but even then we’d need a bit of luck

 

[Stevo]

Do we still have a chance of winning it?

Long shot I know.

Burnley’s form and remaining fixtures are interesting though;

Blackburn (a) - Blackburn desperate to win for POs
Bristol City (a) - tricky game as we found out
Cardiff (h) - might need to win to stay up

Talking shite aren’t I?

Yip

 

[Yoonited]

Do we still have a chance of winning it?

Long shot I know.

Burnley’s form and remaining fixtures are interesting though;

Blackburn (a) - Blackburn desperate to win for POs
Bristol City (a) - tricky game as we found out
Cardiff (h) - might need to win to stay up

Talking shite aren’t I?

Anything is possible in this division.
I imagine Hecky and the lads think so too.

 

[BLADES1988]

Still possible, so why not!

 

[mattbianco1]

Would have been more interesting if we’d beat them at Turf Moor but even then we’d need a bit of luck

Even a draw at Turf Moor.

We currently sit 10pts behind them with a game in hand. If we had drawn, we would be 7 behind now. They've got a tough game away at Blackburn tomorrow which may give us some false hope if they lose again.

 

[TCsLoveChild]

probably needs a points deduction for them to be a possibility even. UTB

 

[mattbianco1]

Blackburn (a) - Blackburn desperate to win for POs
Bristol City (a) - tricky game as we found out

If they lose both of those, we could be 4points behind with a game in hand. Asking a LOT. But who knows.

Need them to have a Wednesday wobble

 

[BettingBlade]

Even a draw at Turf Moor.

We currently sit 10pts behind them with a game in hand. If we had drawn, we would be 7 behind now. They've got a tough game away at Blackburn tomorrow which may give us some false hope if they lose again.

Just checked the table and we are closer than I realised.

Bloody Wes.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

The trophy won’t be in the Turf Moor area quite just yet…Points deduction might be pending.

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

Don't think we have much of a chance of the title.
In all honesty I doubt we will win all our remaining games.
Lets get over the promotion line first !

 

[Bladesthorpe]

Let's get promoted first eh.

 

[JPBrods]

If we had one more win/one less loss, yeah
I can't see how a team that loses ten games wins the title against one that can lose six max, even if it is mathematically possible.

 

[mattbianco1]

The trophy won’t be in the Turf Moor area quite just yet…Points deduction might be pending.

Not a chance they get points deducted. In the squad of 18, only 4 players were changed.

United game on left. Reading game on right. It's just Warnock whinging for no reason

 

[Beans]

It's about as likely as us not finishing in the top 2.

Quick glance at oddschecker, Burnley are 1/200 to win the league, United are 1/200 to get promoted.

 

[Cappy]

If we are promoted on Wednesday, I expect our form to drop off thereafter. I think Hecky will play Blaster, Brooks, Izy more, to see what we’ve got, with an eye on the transfer window and next season. Promotion is all that matters, and then looking ahead to what the squad has and needs for next season is more important than chasing a low percentage, low gain title.

Also wouldn’t surprise me if Davies got the remaining games

Sadly

 

[mattbianco1]

If we are promoted on Wednesday, I expect our form to drop off thereafter. I think Hecky will play Blaster, Brooks, Izy more, to see what we’ve got, with an eye on the transfer window and next season. Promotion is all that matters, and then looking ahead to what the squad has and needs for next season is more important than chasing a low percentage, low gain title.

Sadly

Unless Burnley lose tomorrow and Saturday. He'll go for it then, defo

 

[S64 Blade]

It'd be hilarious if we did. Can't see it though, without a points deduction.

 

[JPBrods]

I must say, winning the Championship is one of the realistic successes I'd love to see us achieve at some point. If we're not in the Premier League, we should be gunning to lift that beautiful old jug.

 

[ThatJa]

The trophy won’t be in the Turf Moor area quite just yet…Points deduction might be pending.

No chance they get a points deduction.

Not even a possibility.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Forget the title, too many getting giddy with these threads!

 

[SkeeterBlade]

O god now len good man @!

 

[tyke1889]

O god now len good man @!

What position does he play and will he help us win the title?

 

[Geordie Blade]

This sounds like a job for 'Permutation Man'.

Our four games and Burnley's three games have a total of 2,187 possible permutations. 4 of those allow us to finish ahead on points, 7 have us level, and 2,176 have Burnley ahead.

 

[The Bear]

The trophy won’t be in the Turf Moor area quite just yet…Points deduction might be pending.

Points deduction for what? Just back from Pluto

 

[BLADES1988]

This sounds like a job for 'Permutation Man'.

Our four games and Burnley's three games have a total of 2,187 possible permutations. 4 of those allow us to finish ahead on points, 7 have us level, and 2,176 have Burnley ahead.

 

[BLADES1988]

Points deduction for what? Just back from Pluto

Some nonsense about fielding a weakened squad. T'owd Warnock was banging on about summat, turns out there was only 4 players difference, so its a non starter.

 

[mattbianco1]

Our four games and Burnley's three games have a total of 2,187 possible permutations.

Is that actually true?

 

[BladeByChoice]

Sky Bet

Blades 66/1
Burnley 1/500

 

[Balham]

Not a chance they get points deducted. In the squad of 18, only 4 players were changed.

United game on left. Reading game on right. It's just Warnock whinging for no reason

View attachment 158791

It's not that cut and dried. Burnley's starting XI against United had 298 combined starts this season in the 39 prior games; their line up against Reading had 171. 5 players kept their place in both games (show in yellow below), of whom four (Roberts, Beyer, Cullen and Tella) were first choice with 122 combined starts while Foster made his first start against us. Two players started against us but were on the bench against Reading (shwon in green; rotation player Barnes & first choice Cork); three players did the reverse (shown in orange; rotation players Taylor, Gudmundsson and Benson). Finally, four first teamers played against us (Muric, Harwood-Bellis, Maatsen & Brownhill) but didn't get on the pitch against Reading.

All of this is moot. Kompany has 25 senior professionals in his squad and how he chooses to rotate them is up to him. There's no denying they have made a number of chances since wrapping up promotion but the upshot of those changes has been to give the fringe players gametime rather than blooding youngsters.

The only angle Warnock has is that the selection of Bailey Peacock-Farrell in goal is a clear sign of fielding a weakened team.

Is that actually true?

Yep. Three different outcomes for each game (W, D, L). Imagine if we had one game each left. The games are independent so the possible result combinations are:

W-W
W-D
W-L
D-W
D-D
D-L
L-W
L-D
L-L

Or, more simply, 3x3 or 3^2

We have four games left, Burnley 3 so the combination is simply = 3x3x3x3x3x3x3 or 3^7 = 2,187

For the next bit: Burnley are 10 points ahead of us. To overhaul them we have to win all four of our games as three wins and a draw only allows us to reach their current total of 92. They can get a maximum of 1 point from their three games if we're to stay ahead which means that the four combinations are:

United: WWWW
Burnley: LLL or DLL or LDL or LLD

To draw level either we draw one (WWWD or WWDW or WDWW or DWWW) and they lose all three (LLL) OR we win all four (WWWW) and Burnley draw two (DDL or DLD or LDD). 4+3 = 7.