Time for the Poll: Wilder Out or In

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Wilder out or in

  • OUT

    Votes: 204 22.6%

  • IN

    Votes: 700 77.4%
  • Total voters
    904

We complain about the lack of manager loyalty and player loyalty but what about fan loyalty?

Normally I’d say get rid but Wilder has performed miracles and is currently a living legend.
We dont tell a legend when to go....the legend decides the time he wants to leave.

The decent thing to do is give him until Oct/Nov21.
If we’re not in the play-off places....doing what Norwich are doing this season....then he does need to go.
 
Barney said:
Some changing their vote it seems
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Not at all- we were down prior to this game. It's hard watching these games, eternal hope dashed and all that. But 100% the right thing to do is to keep the faith with Chris.

He's done it before he'll do it again- and supporting him will give him huge added incentive to pay us back.

Change of manager is pointless, it would be somebody rubbish and then somebody even worse.

The ship needs steadying and Chris will do it- please keep the faith.
 
essexblade73 said:
Why would a chairman give wilder any more money after the disasters he has brought in?
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Because, if he has no intention of selling the club in the near future, then he will need to try and get the club back in the prem and quick. Finishing the season winless and with probably 5 or less points could set the football side of the club into freefall again and not capable of challenging next season in the championship. More players now required to try and start a rebuilding job, even if they are on loan and go back at the end of the season.
 
Wilder has made it difficult for whoever replaces him (whenever that may be) with his appalling signings. It’s hard to think how he could have made a bigger mess of the position we were in.
 
Sheffsteel said:
We complain about the lack of manager loyalty and player loyalty but what about fan loyalty?

Normally I’d say get rid but Wilder has performed miracles and is currently a living legend.
We dont tell a legend when to go....the legend decides the time he wants to leave.

The decent thing to do is give him until Oct/Nov21.
If we’re not in the play-off places....doing what Norwich are doing this season....then he does need to go.
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Wilder has been given far more time and loyalty than any other club would've, most clubs would've sacked him 5-10 matches ago.
 
YES Blade said:
Wilder has been given far more time and loyalty than any other club would've, most clubs would've sacked him 5-10 matches ago.
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yes- Yes Blade they would- but its the wrong thing to do. Before we got Chris- how many dogshit managers did we have- lets say 10- Chris is a proven Gem. Lets not lose that fact and throw him away.

He hasn't lost it at all, a serious of unfortunate events have conspired to give a left field affect - Losing Hendo. losing JOC, losing the crowd. The signings he's made have proven poor- but have a bit of loyalty, have some balls not to easily fall in the trap of changing managers.

He'd walk straight back into management- because his track record is second to none- realise that - use your head, not your heart that bleeds right now. He will nearly for certain have the team at the top of the Championship next year - HOLD YOUR FIRE.
 
coolasanidiot said:
yes- Yes Blade they would- but its the wrong thing to do. Before we got Chris- how many dogshit managers did we have- lets say 10- Chris is a proven Gem. Lets not lose that fact and throw him away.

He hasn't lost it at all, a serious of unfortunate events have conspired to give a left field affect - Losing Hendo. losing JOC, losing the crowd. The signings he's made have proven poor- but have a bit of loyalty, have some balls not to easily fall in the trap of changing managers.

He'd walk straight back into management- because his track record is second to none- realise that - use your head, not your heart that bleeds right now. He will nearly for certain have the team at the top of the Championship next year - HOLD YOUR FIRE.
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2 points from 17 matches, unless he lost all 11 first team starters, then there are simply no excuses for that level of return.

After every match that passes his reputation is getting worse and worse, shit sticks, what have Billy Davies and Paul Jewell done since their terrible season at Derby? Davies managed to get the Forest job, but being sacked early into the season helped him keep his reputation in tact. No doubt Wilder will get another job, but it'll be at a Championship club which is in the shit or more likely back in League One.
 
We vow to disagree - I think he deserves a bit of loyalty and I'd back him - because he's shown how good he can be. Simple as I want him at the helm next year for certain, you don't. Fair enough; but he will get a Championship side and he will prosper meanwhile I think if you get your wish we will enter the Management merry go round and see a downward horrible spiral. Good managers are virtually impossible to find- he's one of the best and I don't want to lose him, quality in the end will out and he's gottit.
 
Loyalty is important and Wilder has had the most loyal support in recent history at the lane. Even if we had 12 points this season and were the mix for a relegation scrap I doub't anyone would waver in their support for him. But what's happening this season isn't even close, in fact it's embarrassingly bad. You can only dine out previous achievements for so long and the fact we have 2pts from the past 60pts available IMO requires a change. That could be on the pitch or off it but it seems to be more and more unlikely that the players, manager and coaching staff are going to make this change. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome is the definition of madness.
 
coolasanidiot said:
yes- Yes Blade they would- but its the wrong thing to do. Before we got Chris- how many dogshit managers did we have- lets say 10- Chris is a proven Gem. Lets not lose that fact and throw him away.

He hasn't lost it at all, a serious of unfortunate events have conspired to give a left field affect - Losing Hendo. losing JOC, losing the crowd. The signings he's made have proven poor- but have a bit of loyalty, have some balls not to easily fall in the trap of changing managers.

He'd walk straight back into management- because his track record is second to none- realise that - use your head, not your heart that bleeds right now. He will nearly for certain have the team at the top of the Championship next year - HOLD YOUR FIRE.
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I beg your pardon, I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine, there's gotta be a little rain sometime

Played after home games 70's when we didn't do magic. Never forgotten, I'll wait for the sunshine.
UTB
 
I assume all the people who say we have to remember the past never tell the pigs to shut the fuck up and get over their Rumbelows Cup victory in 1991.
 
You are right ,the past I remember is a team stuck for years and years in the pub league struggling to finish the season half way up the table with a manager saying blades fans expect to much.Happy memories I don.t think.
 
coolasanidiot said:
Stupid question beyond belief. I really hope the Prince holds his nerve and his word. Chris hasn't lost the dressing room at all. That team gave their all tonight, yes if we go one down that's it; but thats a lack of quality. yes Burnley let us have the ball in the 2nd half knowing we are toothless, but I was proud of the way we went about it.

This team and Chris will do really well in the Championship, so to the loud mouth dissenters, go and support Liverpool, you'll be happier.

Chris is without doubt the best manager we have had in 50 years, to want him to go, I'm afraid you haven't been around the block, you are stupid or you are indeed PIGS.

IN IN IN ..
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Well said.
Wish I'd have wrote this !
 

Read so many people say he’s only still got the job because of sentiment and as such we should get rid...

if we go down this season and next season we are fighting for the title then we are a bigger better club than we were when he took over and probably about where we realistically would have wanted to be when he took over. These 2 premier seasons were unexpected bonuses in my eyes and if we can compete like Norwich are now then I will be happy.

Burnley under Dyche, Newcastle under Rafa or Norwich under Farke should be our vision.
 
I was leaning out but actually think no-one would get us to 12 points because the squad he's assembled is so bad so there's no point in getting rid of him.

We'll see if he does start well in the Championship, I fear not but would love to be proven wrong.

With that said he has managed us appalling since lockdown started in almost every single aspect and deserves criticism accordingly.

Going to be an absolutely miserable few months, and we will have to live with going down as the worst team in the history of top level league sport for hundreds if not thousands of years.
 
Atkins is still out of a job perhaps we should go and get him back.:eek:
 
AlienWoodward said:
I voted in for two reasons.
1) He's the best manager we've had since 1971(all be it in my opinion)
2) I don't want to be associated with the idiots who voted out.
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Point 1, I agree with you.

Point 2, I voted Wilder out, I (and many others) also gave a reasonable and well thought out opinion as to why we voted out. To call us idiots is a bit harsh.
 
BladeByChoice said:
Point 1, I agree with you.

Point 2, I voted Wilder out, I (and many others) also gave a reasonable and well thought out opinion as to why we voted out. To call us idiots is a bit harsh.
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On the contrary,I used idiots because if I used the term I would use face to face I'd get a ban from the forum.
 
Hope the rumours wilder is gone turn out to be bullshit

75% of people on here want him to say. That’s basically universal in the fickle world of football.

After everything - at the very least he deserves a chance to prove he can learn from this abs turn things around. Why would we not give him the chance to prove he’s learned from the errors (and there have been a few) and become a better manager for this experience.

no fans, bad injuries, bad luck, poor form have created a perfect storm. Don’t think it invalidates a career here so far
 
Why sack him? No manager on this planet could keep us in the division now. The very best we could hope for is a bounce of 3-4 matches and then likely revert to the norm. And there is no manager better equipped or more deserving of the opportunity to get us back into the top flight than Wilder.
 
nicksufc said:
Why sack him? No manager on this planet could keep us in the division now. The very best we could hope for is a bounce of 3-4 matches and then likely revert to the norm. And there is no manager better equipped or more deserving of the opportunity to get us back into the top flight than Wilder.
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I agree in a weird way even though we’re not half way through the season it’s almost to late to sack him. Nobody can save us so just stick with it and give him the chance to bounce back
 
Some are clearly desperate for a return to League 1.

My problem with removing him, is what do you end up being left with?
There's still the same lack of investment in the infrastructure of the club, and there's even less money available now to invest.

The club wasn't ready to be promoted to this level and stay for a prolonger period.
 
I want him to stay. I suspect that the 6 subs on the bench and the resistance to use the youngsters have been a political game by him to force through transfers last month and I get annoyed by the appearance of Lundstram and Norwood week in and week out when I feel they are a huge part of the strikers scoring returns but I would not trust anyone else as much to bring us back next season. Put ridiculously high prices on all the key assets to frighten the Premier league off, ditch the rubbish and try for one season with a similar squad.
 
AlienWoodward said:
I voted in for two reasons.
1) He's the best manager we've had since 1971(all be it in my opinion)
2) I don't want to be associated with the idiots who voted out.
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1. I don't think he's as good as Bassett yet
2. I'm on the fence and seeing idiots either side (along with some corking chaps too of course)
 

In for me
But he better get himself back together again, and quick.

Walking about with a face like a smacked arse because he didn't get everything his own way isn't doing anybody any good, we fans can do that, but he can't.
He's supposed to be the leader, the man leading the outgunned underdogs into battle.

What do the outgunned troops do when their leaders bottle has gone ?

They'll hide in the trench with him, instead of going over the top.
 
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