The 'Not Good Enough For Us Club'

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Main early contender for this summer’s Not Good Enough For Us Club, on here and elsewhere, looks to be Conor “not for me thanks” Coady.

176 Prem appearances, 99 of them during the last three seasons.

In the two seasons before that, played every minute of every game for Wolves in Prem, Europa League and FA Cup during 2019/20, and every minute of Prem and domestic cup games during 2018/19, in a side that finished 7th in the Prem both times.

10 caps for England, all in the 2020s, and a member of the tournament squad that came runners-up in the 2021 Euros.

NOT good enough for us!
 
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Main early contender for this summer’s Not Good Enough For Us Club, on here and elsewhere, looks to be Conor “not for me thanks” Coady.

176 Prem appearances, 99 of them during the last three seasons.

In the two seasons before that, played every minute of every game for Wolves in Prem, Europa League and FA Cup during 2019/20, and every minute of Prem and domestic cup games during 2018/19, in a side that finished 7th in the Prem both times.

10 caps for England, all in the 2020s, and a member of the tournament squad that came runners-up in the 2021 Euros.

NOT good enough for us!

He was good enough for us. It's just that McCabe wouldn't part with the £375k to buy him when he was up for grabs so Huddersfield did.

McCabe = a warning from history

pommpey
 
He was good enough for us. It's just that McCabe wouldn't part with the £375k to buy him when he was up for grabs so Huddersfield did.

McCabe = a warning from history

pommpey
The ghost of McCabe past! We signed James Wallace for that position instead who managed the grand total of 14 games in 3 years. Feel the due diligence on that.
Interesting that Coady got signed for Wolves a season later having played 40 odd games. His value increased to £2m. The money enabled the terriers to fund new signings and they got promoted into the prem (at the expense of the pigs, which is the only silver lining to this tale of woe).
Think about what Cody would have been like in the division below!! A monster. May have even dragged negative Nigel's team up. A sliding doors moment indeed.
 
Main early contender for this summer’s Not Good Enough For Us Club, on here and elsewhere, looks to be Conor “not for me thanks” Coady.

176 Prem appearances, 99 of them during the last three seasons.

In the two seasons before that, played every minute of every game for Wolves in Prem, Europa League and FA Cup during 2019/20, and every minute of Prem and domestic cup games during 2018/19, in a side that finished 7th in the Prem both times.

10 caps for England, all in the 2020s, and a member of the tournament squad that came runners-up in the 2021 Euros.

NOT good enough for us!
We tried to buy him twice !
 
How many players have we sold/released where the decision wasn’t based on the player wanting out/decent bid that was instantly good enough?

It’s almost like playing 100s of games of senior football gives players the chance to improve 😱
 
some players play better for other clubs shock

works both ways

weve had players do well for us move on and been pants

its down to the players settling in and feeling part of the club
we got up by making players feel wanted here this season
 
How many players have we sold/released where the decision wasn’t based on the player wanting out/decent bid that was instantly good enough?

It’s almost like playing 100s of games of senior football gives players the chance to improve 😱

Over my lifetime it has been too many. Deane, Fjortoft, Currie, Salmons, Murphy ... even McDonald ... the list is endless.

Many say we have always been a selling club. Until recently I'd say that was always the case.

Every day I dread the shock news we have sold NDaiye for 'undisclosed'

pommpey
 
How many players have we sold/released where the decision wasn’t based on the player wanting out/decent bid that was instantly good enough?

It’s almost like playing 100s of games of senior football gives players the chance to improve 😱

Agreed - nothing enhances development more than regular games.

Marginal one maybe but Ben whiteman - certainly playing at the same level as signings made after him are.

After that you maybe go back to sharp - who obviously we should have kept and he could have had a ridiculous career here given how he improved and changed his game as he’s aged.
 
Over my lifetime it has been too many. Deane, Fjortoft, Currie, Salmons, Murphy ... even McDonald ... the list is endless.

Many say we have always been a selling club. Until recently I'd say that was always the case.

Every day I dread the shock news we have sold NDaiye for 'undisclosed'

pommpey
All sold for needed money or because they asked to leave. I put that proviso in my last post
 
Agreed - nothing enhances development more than regular games.

Marginal one maybe but Ben whiteman - certainly playing at the same level as signings made after him are.

After that you maybe go back to sharp - who obviously we should have kept and he could have had a ridiculous career here given how he improved and changed his game as he’s aged.
The midfield we had when he left, Coutts, Fleck, Duffy was an absolute street ahead of where he was then though.

If he'd come along 3 years earlier he might have gotten that game time with us
 

Over my lifetime it has been too many. Deane, Fjortoft, Currie, Salmons, Murphy ... even McDonald ... the list is endless.

Many say we have always been a selling club. Until recently I'd say that was always the case.

Every day I dread the shock news we have sold NDaiye for 'undisclosed'

pommpey

I think the point being made was

How many have we let go because WE wanted too and have been proved wrong - not because there have been other sides interested and McCabe saw some £ signs.

Agree with your point though. In a world where we had an owner with deeper pockets. You’d argue ramsdale, dcl, Adams, Walker , Maguire could all have been held onto for at least a couple of years longer. And we would certainly not have been languishing in league one for as long allowing users to build off a young core.
 
The midfield we had when he left, Coutts, Fleck, Duffy was an absolute street ahead of where he was then though.

If he'd come along 3 years earlier he might have gotten that game time with us

Yeah. Said it was a marginal one

He might not have made the first team but imo We could probably have saved some cash spent on Leonard, Lee Evans and carruthers. Who he might have been able to replace with no drop off in quality.

He seemed to shine immediately for donny and garner interest from there.
 
Yeah. Said it was a marginal one

He might not have made the first team but imo We could probably have saved some cash spent on Leonard, Lee Evans and carruthers. Who he might have been able to replace with no drop off in quality.

He seemed to shine immediately for donny and garner interest from there.
Fair points on the other signings. I do like that United (other than Slater for whatever reason) do a really good job of moving players on as soon as it becomes clear they aren't going to play
 
some players play better for other clubs shock

works both ways

weve had players do well for us move on and been pants

its down to the players settling in and feeling part of the club
we got up by making players feel wanted here this season

I'm not sure we've had many come here and 'do well'.

It seems that pulling on the red and white striped transforms many players into single-issue bobbar. I have no idea what those stripes do to footballers' mentalities which has them thinking they should put some snow on the ball and boot it up the pitch. Only a few have come here and blown us away, shifting what we have up a notch. Egan, O'Connell, some others have changed the way we play for the better but with others it has been like getting blood out of a rock

pommpey
 
Fair points on the other signings. I do like that United (other than Slater for whatever reason) do a really good job of moving players on as soon as it becomes clear they aren't going to play

* coughs * Moussett * coughs *

:)

pommpey
 
I'm not sure we've had many come here and 'do well'.

It seems that pulling on the red and white striped transforms many players into single-issue bobbar. I have no idea what those stripes do to footballers' mentalities which has them thinking they should put some snow on the ball and boot it up the pitch. Only a few have come here and blown us away, shifting what we have up a notch. Egan, O'Connell, some others have changed the way we play for the better but with others it has been like getting blood out of a rock

pommpey
its amazing how weve got to 4 championship playoffs and won promotion to the prem 3 times with all these shits players weve had and all bar 1 season top half championship ,
 
its amazing how weve got to 4 championship playoffs and won promotion to the prem 3 times with all these shits players weve had and all bar 1 season top half championship ,

Calm down eh?

Can you honestly say that the past ten years (for example) has shown real consistency of form and performance across the pitch. By that I mean every player has fitted in quickly and delivered the similar output his predecessor had or even better? Let me give you Max Lowe as a start point then we'll move onto Ampadu, Lundstram, Burke, Brewster, Doyle M, Flynn, Collins, Woolford, Sammon, Carruthers, Freeman L, Bryan and then the rest of the duffers Wilder brought in on a whim who sat in the dugout taking up space?

Admit it, even getting to those playoffs (and failing) was hit and miss for most of the journey

pommpey
 
Calm down eh?

Can you honestly say that the past ten years (for example) has shown real consistency of form and performance across the pitch. By that I mean every player has fitted in quickly and delivered the similar output his predecessor had or even better? Let me give you Max Lowe as a start point then we'll move onto Ampadu, Lundstram, Burke, Brewster, Doyle M, Flynn, Collins, Woolford, Sammon, Carruthers, Freeman L, Bryan and then the rest of the duffers Wilder brought in on a whim who sat in the dugout taking up space?

Admit it, even getting to those playoffs (and failing) was hit and miss for most of the journey

pommpey
Considering our budget think we have to be a bit realistic about expectation.We don't pay wagees at the level others can. We regularily exceed expectation.
 
Considering our budget think we have to be a bit realistic about expectation.We don't pay wagees at the level others can. We regularily exceed expectation.
We don't really save anything though, do we?

The turn over of players that we can't get a penny for in the transfer market has been enormous due to our legendary restricted wages forcing us to take gamble after gamble
 
Any footballers you get is a gamble

Chelsea spent 350m in January znd turned to shit....that's all football is ..risk taking
 
We were a third division club when we tried to sign an up and coming player ,
I Don’t blame the chap for not signing for us we were fucking shite back then
He’s progressed his career since then
I’d sign him if we could afford him now though
 
Calm down eh?

Can you honestly say that the past ten years (for example) has shown real consistency of form and performance across the pitch. By that I mean every player has fitted in quickly and delivered the similar output his predecessor had or even better? Let me give you Max Lowe as a start point then we'll move onto Ampadu, Lundstram, Burke, Brewster, Doyle M, Flynn, Collins, Woolford, Sammon, Carruthers, Freeman L, Bryan and then the rest of the duffers Wilder brought in on a whim who sat in the dugout taking up space?

Admit it, even getting to those playoffs (and failing) was hit and miss for most of the journey

pommpey
last seven years definitely, 1 relegation with no crowds aside we've been marvelous

would you not say its hit and miss for all clubs getting in the play offs ,,,, take Middlesbor, their manager gets manager of the year in April and fail to reach the final

Boro you could say have elbowed a load of players not good enough A handful of out-of-contract senior professionals will leave the club this summer.​

Goalkeeper Luke Daniels and defender Darnell Fisher, who made his first appearance in almost two years in the final league game of the season after a lengthy injury, are both set to depart.
And they are joined by Grant Hall and Joe Lumley, who spent last season on loan at Rotherham United and Reading respectively.
Also free to move on elsewhere are Isiah Cornet, Joe Ridley, Oliver Swan, and Alfie Doherty, along with scholars Louie Evans, Ash MacCarthy, and Tylah Wallace-Ming.

4 promotions and 2 top 10 championship finishes ,,,, and still theres moaning

look at other clubs of our size see how they compare, last 7 only sold Brooks to fund other players and because he was injury prone
 
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Incoming!! Ross Barkley released. Someone will post him as a suggestion and others will say no thanks to a 29 year old with 250 Premier League appearances, Champions League experience and 30 add England caps. Sooner give Fleck a new contract or give Coulibaly a chance 🙃
 

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