Tanganga

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I’m going to ask the question. Is he worth it?
His buy out clause to a Premier League club is reportedly £1.5 million.
United are apparently willing to pay 5 or 6 times as much.
Not gone back for Holding, not prepared to pay anything like that for Dunne or Choudray. I’d still like to see a gamble on Souttar coming through his injury.
Not saying Tanganga isn’t up to it, but what bothers me is every time we spend big money the fanbase historically, if the player has not been judged to be up to the mark rip the player to shreds (Brewster, Cannon, McBurnie).
7 - 10 million is an awful lot for a Millwall Centre Half, who when I saw him last year against us spent most of the game manhandling our forwards and quite frankly got away with murder that day.
I’m hoping this doesn’t smack of desperation.
 

I’m going to ask the question. Is he worth it?
His buy out clause to a Premier League club is reportedly £1.5 million.
United are apparently willing to pay 5 or 6 times as much.
Not gone back for Holding, not prepared to pay anything like that for Dunne or Choudray. I’d still like to see a gamble on Souttar coming through his injury.
Not saying Tanganga isn’t up to it, but what bothers me is every time we spend big money the fanbase historically, if the player has not been judged to be up to the mark rip the player to shreds (Brewster, Cannon, McBurnie).
7 - 10 million is an awful lot for a Millwall Centre Half, who when I saw him last year against us spent most of the game manhandling our forwards and quite frankly got away with murder that day.
I’m hoping this doesn’t smack of desperation.
It is desperation
We've acted too slowly and now we have to pay the piper
 
I’m going to ask the question. Is he worth it?
His buy out clause to a Premier League club is reportedly £1.5 million.
United are apparently willing to pay 5 or 6 times as much.
Not gone back for Holding, not prepared to pay anything like that for Dunne or Choudray. I’d still like to see a gamble on Souttar coming through his injury.
Not saying Tanganga isn’t up to it, but what bothers me is every time we spend big money the fanbase historically, if the player has not been judged to be up to the mark rip the player to shreds (Brewster, Cannon, McBurnie).
7 - 10 million is an awful lot for a Millwall Centre Half, who when I saw him last year against us spent most of the game manhandling our forwards and quite frankly got away with murder that day.
I’m hoping this doesn’t smack of desperation.
Hate to be that guy but no way would we be paying anywhere near that without promotion. He has a year left in his contract and a low release clause to a PL team. We are in a better bargaining position than most think.
 
I’m going to ask the question. Is he worth it?
His buy out clause to a Premier League club is reportedly £1.5 million.
United are apparently willing to pay 5 or 6 times as much.
Not gone back for Holding, not prepared to pay anything like that for Dunne or Choudray. I’d still like to see a gamble on Souttar coming through his injury.
Not saying Tanganga isn’t up to it, but what bothers me is every time we spend big money the fanbase historically, if the player has not been judged to be up to the mark rip the player to shreds (Brewster, Cannon, McBurnie).
7 - 10 million is an awful lot for a Millwall Centre Half, who when I saw him last year against us spent most of the game manhandling our forwards and quite frankly got away with murder that day.
I’m hoping this doesn’t smack of desperation.
There's also the rumour of him having a knee issue.

He's good next to a big lad, but I doubt he's more than £5 million good.
 
I’m going to ask the question. Is he worth it?
His buy out clause to a Premier League club is reportedly £1.5 million.
United are apparently willing to pay 5 or 6 times as much.
Not gone back for Holding, not prepared to pay anything like that for Dunne or Choudray. I’d still like to see a gamble on Souttar coming through his injury.
Not saying Tanganga isn’t up to it, but what bothers me is every time we spend big money the fanbase historically, if the player has not been judged to be up to the mark rip the player to shreds (Brewster, Cannon, McBurnie).
7 - 10 million is an awful lot for a Millwall Centre Half, who when I saw him last year against us spent most of the game manhandling our forwards and quite frankly got away with murder that day.
I’m hoping this doesn’t smack of desperation.
It is a worry for me also that it’s a panic buy and he’s not worth the money and we seem to be getting mugged with the big fee. The actual PL release clause is £1.2 million as reported in many papers, every PL clubs recruitment teams certainly in the bottom half of the league will have watched him multiple times and yet not one thinks his worth taking on even at such a low price of 1.2m. Something just doesn’t seem right to me.
 
It is a worry for me also that it’s a panic buy and he’s not worth the money and we seem to be getting mugged with the big fee. The actual PL release clause is £1.2 million as reported in many papers, every PL clubs recruitment teams certainly in the bottom half of the league will have watched him multiple times and yet not one thinks his worth taking on even at such a low price of 1.2m. Something just doesn’t seem right to me.
Mysterious I agree. I don't think Tanganga is necessarily good enough for the Prem. However as a top Championship defender last season, it's surprising a lower Prem team haven't signed him as backup.

My best theory is the lad refused to move unless he's going to be a starter. Seemingly chose well with Millwall, after all, perhaps a sensible career planner.
 
But unfortunately employing Sellés is about as constructive as putting me in charge of Man Citteh and I know knowt about football having only following the Blades so I might be totally wrong.
I just want to highlight something again... We've appointed a young coach with a top UEFA qualification and a relevant degree, that's managed two EFL clubs successfully (Reading in playoffs with near enough the youth team, then saved Hull from relegation) after a wide variety of coaching experience.
Just because we've started poorly does not mean he's incapable or unpopular or unqualified, or anything at all.

We've had an imbalanced (poor) starting eleven every match, because of previous seasons budgets/squad planning and then slow-ish recruitment this window. No defenders or defensive midfielders, most crucially.

Why the heck(y) is Selles getting pelters from everyone two weeks into the season? He needs at least 3 months before it's credible to debate sacking him. Otherwise we're in danger of becoming one of these ridiculous, impatient, entitled clubs/fanbases that we've rightfully laughed at for years.
 
I just want to highlight something again... We've appointed a young coach with a top UEFA qualification and a relevant degree, that's managed two EFL clubs successfully (Reading in playoffs with near enough the youth team, then saved Hull from relegation) after a wide variety of coaching experience.
Just because we've started poorly does not mean he's incapable or unpopular or unqualified, or anything at all.

We've had an imbalanced (poor) starting eleven every match, because of previous seasons budgets/squad planning and then slow-ish recruitment this window. No defenders or defensive midfielders, most crucially.

Why the heck(y) is Selles getting pelters from everyone two weeks into the season? He needs at least 3 months before it's credible to debate sacking him. Otherwise we're in danger of becoming one of these ridiculous, impatient, entitled clubs/fanbases that we've rightfully laughed at for years.
Don't necessarily disagree in terms of his qualifications, but he's getting pelters because there appears to be no plan, no direction, no leadership. I think if we saw more of the first half of the Bristol City game where we were at least pressing and creating people could buy into it even if we were losing, but it's just not been like that since.

I really hope this is a blip and the start of something great but unfortunately so far the signs aren't great.
 
Alex Neil said post match that Tangana wanted to play yesterday but the choice was taken out of his hands

Means he has been sold
He wanted to play, but who for?

If it wasn't for the 12pm Friday deadline I reckon it would have made fantastic theatre if he played for them first half, signed the paperwork at half time, and put on the red and white stripes for the second half!
 

I’m going to ask the question. Is he worth it?
His buy out clause to a Premier League club is reportedly £1.5 million.
United are apparently willing to pay 5 or 6 times as much.
Not gone back for Holding, not prepared to pay anything like that for Dunne or Choudray. I’d still like to see a gamble on Souttar coming through his injury.
Not saying Tanganga isn’t up to it, but what bothers me is every time we spend big money the fanbase historically, if the player has not been judged to be up to the mark rip the player to shreds (Brewster, Cannon, McBurnie).
7 - 10 million is an awful lot for a Millwall Centre Half, who when I saw him last year against us spent most of the game manhandling our forwards and quite frankly got away with murder that day.
I’m hoping this doesn’t smack of desperation.
holding gone to america jusrt saying
 
He wanted to play, but who for?

If it wasn't for the 12pm Friday deadline I reckon it would have made fantastic theatre if he played for them first half, signed the paperwork at half time, and put on the red and white stripes for the second half!
I saw that in a Bilkybthe Fish story. I think Brown Fox, the large breasted Native American winger signed for Grimthorpe at half time in the FA cup final!
 
“At no point did Japhet tell me or anybody else that he didn’t want play today. So Japhet wanted to play the game. He was available to play the game.

“The decision was made by me, after I spoke to Jimmy, the owner, and Steve Gallen, the director of football, about what we wanted to do with this.

“What I felt today was, it was better to take him out of the firing line and go with the guys who are obviously in a good mental space and ready to play.

“But I want to make it clear again, Japhet at no stage refused to play today, at any point. In fact, if anything, it was the opposite, and I made a decision for him.”

Asked about Tanganga’s future at the football club, Neil said: “The fact that I took him out of the game, obviously, things have moved on.

“As far as I know, things are not at a conclusion stage just now. I had a good chat with Japhet earlier today. So we’ll see what transpires over the next couple of days.”
Fuckinell , even Millwall have a DoF 🙄
 
We're outnumbered on our own 18yd line. WTF!
I thought that initially but it is 5 v 5. I couldn't see Burrows at first but watching it back. He jumps into Bindon's man and leaves his own for a free header. He is hidden between Bindon and the Millwall forward. After the flick on Peck is ball watching and is wrong side of the man who scores. Robbo is also just marking space and no one in particular and doesn't react quick enough.
 
Clearly offside , but the defeat was fair
Looks inside to me. The angle is very hard to tell though. It was very tight either way and if that's the case then it can go either way. Our defence hasn't pushed up enough if offside was the plan but we've not marked their goalscorer neither. Two of our players are marking the same man too, one is Bindon. Robbo marking no one.

Marginal offside decisions should always go in favour of the attacking side in my view because if you're not 100% it's offside then don't call it. We suffered last season v Hull where we scored a legitimate equaliser by Campbell which was called offside.
 
Not sure I agree with the 'marginal' idea.
As I see it, it's always possible to score another goal, but impossible to wipe off one that's been awarded.
For offside, margins of error should favour 'no goal' - after all, isn't that why where introduced VAR?
 
Scorer was offside as I was bang on line. Everyone around me agreed

I don't sit as far left as you do, on G block, and even I could see he was offside.

The linesman had done similar a few minutes earlier, when one of their players did a cross field pass to a lad who was miles off side (in front of the family stand) right in front of the linesman, who kept his flag down and the family stand erupted at the decision.
 

He has a middle name Manzambi (God).

Are we paying over the odds for God..£2.5m on TM.

If we are buying God and we then don’t win every game 20-0 for rest of season then the owners deserve all the abuse he gets

And God better put more effort into his defending than he does with world hunger/middle east/the rail network in UK and why he still allows Wednesday to exist
 

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