Squad 24/25 Season

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We've got a shit load of...

Numbers
Quality
League experience
Creativity
Goals

...to try and get through the door in the coming weeks.
 
I don’t understand why so many are ignoring or writing off several youngsters before they have played in the Championship.
We already know there is raw talent there so why not let several be part of the squad. If they are not good enough we still have the JTW and next summer’s window to keep building.
Until we are into September I cannot see how this window can be judged.
If there are some who think our squad should be complete this month from quality acquisitions then I don’t think you are being realistic.
 
Snowflake said:
I don’t understand why so many are ignoring or writing off several youngsters before they have played in the Championship.
We already know there is raw talent there so why not let several be part of the squad. If they are not good enough we still have the JTW and next summer’s window to keep building.
Until we are into September I cannot see how this window can be judged.
If there are some who think our squad should be complete this month from quality acquisitions then I don’t think you are being realistic.
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Several youngsters? My friend we only have 3 / 4 that you would even look at as a slim chance of making an impact.

We got promoted last time with the star of the academy and loans from others clubs. Blaster is our new star of the academy and players like Osula have a good chance of being a good sub. Brooks it’s hard to tell and that’s about your lot.
 
Bladezz said:
Several youngsters? My friend we only have 3 / 4 that you would even look at as a slim chance of making an impact.

We got promoted last time with the star of the academy and loans from others clubs. Blaster is our new star of the academy and players like Osula have a good chance of being a good sub. Brooks it’s hard to tell and that’s about your lot.
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Absolutely spot on
 
Bladezz said:
Several youngsters? My friend we only have 3 / 4 that you would even look at as a slim chance of making an impact.

We got promoted last time with the star of the academy and loans from others clubs. Blaster is our new star of the academy and players like Osula have a good chance of being a good sub. Brooks it’s hard to tell and that’s about your lot.
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How can you judge any player until they have played a few games at a particular level.
We don’t get to see them in training and practice matches.
I don’t see what the alternative is unless you hope that we can put together a squad of experience.
 
Snowflake said:
How can you judge any player until they have played a few games at a particular level.
We don’t get to see them in training and practice matches.
I don’t see what the alternative is unless you hope that we can put together a squad of experience.
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The alternative is to sign professional players we know have the ability.

It’s the same as I ca judge you and I aren’t championship players as we don’t have the ability or at least haven’t shown it.

The championship is no mugs game. There’s players in there that have payed 200+ games in the Premier League.

I hope your right but they haven’t shown anything they are championship quality.
 
Can’t wait to see the team we put out at York on Saturday - and wil be much more interested to see how Wilder handles any post match interviews!
 
Bladezz said:
The alternative is to sign professional players we know have the ability.

It’s the same as I ca judge you and I aren’t championship players as we don’t have the ability or at least haven’t shown it.

The championship is no mugs game. There’s players in there that have payed 200+ games in the Premier League.

I hope you’re right but they haven’t shown anything they are championship quality.
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I agree with signing experience and quality but I just don’t think we are in a position to find enough of them who want to come here to create a full squad.
 
I was surprised yesterday that a report on man utd signing a player this week was regarded as " acted early "in the transfer market. I suppose many on here think were miles behind everyone . I realise that we need alot of people through the door but in transfer window terms its still early ( according to the football media )
 
The Fox said:
I was surprised yesterday that a report on man utd signing a player this week was regarded as " acted early "in the transfer market. I suppose many on here think were miles behind everyone . I realise that we need alot of people through the door but in transfer window terms its still early ( according to the football media )
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Big difference is Man U have a team. We dont. We needed players as soon as last season ended. As for Man U no one cares about us but us fans. We are miles behind everyone who has a 22 player team.
 
Varkanoid said:
Big difference is Man U have a team. We dont. We needed players as soon as last season ended. As for Man U no one cares about us but us fans. We are miles behind everyone who has a 22 player team.
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Yep in very different situations, my point being that to most its still early . If players are lined up then it takes a day to sign a player so hopefully in a couple of weeks things will look very different. If not we can be be concerned.
 
The time for panic is at the end of a season when all hope is lost,
not before the team has even kicked a ball...

Relax man and leave everything to uncle Chris & the boy's .....:cool:
 

If our use of 4-2-3-1 in the York game signals a change of formation, could we be seeing something like this for Preston game.

-------------------New
Bogle*-Anel*-Trusty*-McCallum
------------Arblaster-New
--------New-Hamer-Brooks
----------------Moore*

*'s next to names are dependent on players either being here for this season or having competition, such as.

Bogle/Curtis
Anel/New CB
Trusty/JLT
Moore/Osula/Mcburnie/Brewster/New

Possible new players based on links, Callum O'Hare for that RM position.
 
if we're living in glass half full land, I can see at least a very very competitive championship starting XI taking shape. if we get worrall/o'hare/Moore over the line, get a takeover with funds to tempt BBD back and keep hold of key players (anel/bogle/hamer) we just need a RW and a GK, then I think we'd be in a very good position

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Tool McGool said:
if we're living in glass half full land, I can see at least a very very competitive championship starting XI taking shape. if we get worrall/o'hare/Moore over the line, get a takeover with funds to tempt BBD back and keep hold of key players (anel/bogle/hamer) we just need a RW and a GK, then I think we'd be in a very good position

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I agree! Although no way we are getting BBD back next year. If the rumours of roma being interested in Hamer and Fulham interested in Souza, BBD is easily worth a punt for a lower PL side.
 
loyalblade95 said:
If our use of 4-2-3-1 in the York game signals a change of formation, could we be seeing something like this for Preston game.

-------------------New
Bogle*-Anel*-Trusty*-McCallum
------------Arblaster-New
--------New-Hamer-Brooks
----------------Moore*

*'s next to names are dependent on players either being here for this season or having competition, such as.

Bogle/Curtis
Anel/New CB
Trusty/JLT
Moore/Osula/Mcburnie/Brewster/New

Possible new players based on links, Callum O'Hare for that RM position.
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youve forgot worrall
 
Tool McGool said:
if we're living in glass half full land, I can see at least a very very competitive championship starting XI taking shape. if we get worrall/o'hare/Moore over the line, get a takeover with funds to tempt BBD back and keep hold of key players (anel/bogle/hamer) we just need a RW and a GK, then I think we'd be in a very good position

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Stuart McCall at lb
 
Pending official confirmation of incomings (Burrows & McBurnie for now, possibly Dozzell also), I count 27 players in the squad, including youth players that have featured in pre-season. However there are still positions in need of reinforcement, some desparately so. Youth prospects are italicised, pending incomings are in bold

GK (Needs at least one signing):
Adam Davies
Grbic

Def (At least one signing needed at RB, realistically 2 unless one youngster is backup)
Curtis
Seriki
Norrington-Davies
Ahmedhodzic
JLT
Trusty
Sasnauskas
McCallum
Burrows

Def/MF Utility - Shackleton

MF (Probably need another CAM as competition for O'Hare, unless Slimane can raise his game. Likely will need to replace Vini as well):
Blaster
Vini
Hamer
Tom Davies
Peck
Dozzell
O'Hare
Marsh
Slimane

FW (Includes wingers. Investment needed on both wings, unless we plan to just put strikers out wide and hope for the best):
Brooks
Moore
McBurnie
Brewster
Osula
One

I certainly don't think that squad is strong enough yet to compete. Tactics in pre-season, plus interview comments from Wilder, indicate a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 formation will likely be the go-to this season. So I'd say we still need the following:

  • 1st choice GK (I could tolerate having Grbic and/or Davies as backup if we get a solid 1st choice option)
  • 1st choice RB (Would be okay with Curtis or Seriki as backup, but signing a 2nd option would be better)
  • Right-sided CB (Definitely one, possibly 2 if Anel leaves - definitely need a leader at CB as none of the current options are able to do this in my opinion. Someone like Chris Morgan who will happily shout at people all game to get in the right position)
  • WINGERS. Only player who naturally looks comfortable out wide currently is Andre Brooks. Traore is on his way out, so all we have left is strikers with pace. Would rather we went out and signed square pegs for these square holes (BBD if we could get him would be amazing, David Brooks as well. Alternatively could look at youth loan options from PL clubs, and rely on our reputation for developing youth prospects.) Would love to see us go out and get someone in the mould of Jamie Murphy when he was at his best - thoroughly comfortable going one-on-one with a full back, and being thoroughly capable of beating them consistently. Decent delivery from wide, and a good eye for goal when cutting inside.
 
By the end of the week it looks like we can field a team.

But then it’s about how would we cope with injuries? At the moment we wouldn’t but we have some time.

Wilder wheeling and dealing will get us there.
 
Shadota said:
Pending official confirmation of incomings (Burrows & McBurnie for now, possibly Dozzell also), I count 27 players in the squad, including youth players that have featured in pre-season. However there are still positions in need of reinforcement, some desparately so. Youth prospects are italicised, pending incomings are in bold

GK (Needs at least one signing):
Adam Davies
Grbic

Def (At least one signing needed at RB, realistically 2 unless one youngster is backup)
Curtis
Seriki
Norrington-Davies
Ahmedhodzic
JLT
Trusty
Sasnauskas
McCallum
Burrows

Def/MF Utility - Shackleton

MF (Probably need another CAM as competition for O'Hare, unless Slimane can raise his game. Likely will need to replace Vini as well):
Blaster
Vini
Hamer
Tom Davies
Peck
Dozzell
O'Hare
Marsh
Slimane

FW (Includes wingers. Investment needed on both wings, unless we plan to just put strikers out wide and hope for the best):
Brooks
Moore
McBurnie
Brewster
Osula
One

I certainly don't think that squad is strong enough yet to compete. Tactics in pre-season, plus interview comments from Wilder, indicate a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 formation will likely be the go-to this season. So I'd say we still need the following:

  • 1st choice GK (I could tolerate having Grbic and/or Davies as backup if we get a solid 1st choice option)
  • 1st choice RB (Would be okay with Curtis or Seriki as backup, but signing a 2nd option would be better)
  • Right-sided CB (Definitely one, possibly 2 if Anel leaves - definitely need a leader at CB as none of the current options are able to do this in my opinion. Someone like Chris Morgan who will happily shout at people all game to get in the right position)
  • WINGERS. Only player who naturally looks comfortable out wide currently is Andre Brooks. Traore is on his way out, so all we have left is strikers with pace. Would rather we went out and signed square pegs for these square holes (BBD if we could get him would be amazing, David Brooks as well. Alternatively could look at youth loan options from PL clubs, and rely on our reputation for developing youth prospects.) Would love to see us go out and get someone in the mould of Jamie Murphy when he was at his best - thoroughly comfortable going one-on-one with a full back, and being thoroughly capable of beating them consistently. Decent delivery from wide, and a good eye for goal when cutting inside.
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Great post and more or less reflects my thinking.

I'm hoping we land Gilchrist, Burrows, and McBurnie.

Holding on to Hamer is key, but I would keep Anel if there is a chance he could get his Mojo back. Souza/Grbic/Slim going to fund BBD, a GK and Worrall would be great business and realistic money wise. I'm in a minority on thinking Vini could be fantastic for us in the Champ, but I would also be fine with Dozzel as a free agent if we really need money in.

If we can't get BBD and money is tight, I would look at loans for a winger and try to re-sign Egan instead of Worrall.

I'm happy that after a terrible season and glacial start to the window we're finally turning the boat round and building a team that gives me some hope and excitement for the season
 
Vini and Arblaster will be the holding 2 if he is indeed still here.

Hamer out wide. Basically doing whatever he wants to do as he has Gilchrist behind him holding for him.
 
The squad rebuild looks to be more cautious and targeted than we've seen before with fewer risks taken. Perhaps as some have suggested they have looked a formations, how we want to play and targeted players that fit but have some flexibility . Maybe it's driven by necessity , a rethink from wilder and knill , the influence of Des or a combination of all .
I don't think the transfers are stifled by ambition but more consideration is being applied when choosing the right fit , right age , injury record etc. With a few more holes to fill there's every chance we could start September if not the season with a more balanced squad and possibly better squad than last .
 

If we were playing PNE tonight what would your 11 be? (Everyone fit)

Davies

Shackleton Robinson Trusty McCallum

Arblaster Hamer

Slimane O'Hare Osula

Moore
 
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