Selles has been thrown under a bus

[Blade56]

Genuinely have no idea what their plan actually is.

sell the club

 

[Blade56]

They wouldn't, he'd just suck the air in between his teeth and repeatedly jut his chin out

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[Blacksea]

We absolutely should have had a well-connected DoF from the moment the owners came in - suicide to sack a manager like Wilder and recruit a head coach like Selles without recognising that Stephen Bettis CANNOT do the resulting requirement for a DoF role ,
not on top of everything else for which he's responsible.

Why on earth did the owners not see this ?
They must be feckin stupid.

Anything other than challenging for PL and at least being a a Yo-yo club , sees them owning a loss-making white elephant of non-PL club , which could never have been their goal.

Did they know absolutely feck-all about English professional football before they bought ?

They must have known loads about EFL because they told a guy with around 50 years in the game that they knew better than him how to go forward this season...and got rid of him

 

[Blade56]

I can't argue with that. I think people at the club are not doing their job in bringing players in.

They’ve done the YouTube online tutorial on how to sell players but not done the second part on buying players. Be all reyt for JTW, or Easter summer.

 

[PrestwichBlade]

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Exactly

 

[programmechap]

Selles was brought in by the current owners, and would (you would hope) have had most of the parameters for the way things are expected to work explained to him. Wilder had his own ideas, and they didn't necessarily align. That's all I meant.

Wilder has a track record at this level, Selles doesn't. That obviously means the latter will have less power vis a vis the owners.

 

[Nade]

Scarborough are 100% owned by the fans within a Co-operative business model, for £15 a year you own 1 share and have voting rights etc at the AGM and then there are further options with season tickets attached to them to pay either monthly or annually. As a rebuild for a non-league club it seems to be doing well. We would have to be charging more than £15 a share if we were trying to buy the club outright however a 80/20 split of similar could be achievable on a increase based on our fan base especially if you add it to the season ticket holders and members together plus a few additional that would buy in based on the initial cost of the original buyout. It would then need changes to advise that the board need 85% agreement for x, y and z to occur. Complex but doable

That sounds lovely.

I think eventually (ie the very long term) it'll end up being a bit like that with every club as a rule. I think it'll take a lot for that to come in as a rule but I think it'll happen.

I think the Bundesliga has some rules about fans owning most of each club, so it's not unheard of for there to be rules about it.

 

[SufcBilly]

I really don't think they appear to have the best interests of the club at heart, consortiums as someone else has said is about profitability! So we have a purchase price of 100m, within 8 or so months got approx 22m back and with Hamer going for maybe 10m, Peck 5m, JLT 500k, Campbell maybe 5m, Burrows 5m and Cooper 10m (total of 57.5m earth pounds) the whole purchase looks a whole (lotta) Rosier to them. Sell the club for 80m and voila keep the consortium happy! To the detriment of Us Blades! That could be nearly 40m profit in a few months, simplistic view but it could happen? Just my shitting of my pants scenario (fed up with bed wetting).

Football clubs aren’t profitable endeavours. Also Hamer 10m hahhahaha

 

[VictoryBlade]

We absolutely should have had a well-connected DoF from the moment the owners came in - suicide to sack a manager like Wilder and recruit a head coach like Selles without recognising that Stephen Bettis CANNOT do the resulting requirement for a DoF role ,
not on top of everything else for which he's responsible.

Why on earth did the owners not see this ?
They must be feckin stupid.

Anything other than challenging for PL and at least being a a Yo-yo club , sees them owning a loss-making white elephant of non-PL club , which could never have been their goal.

Did they know absolutely feck-all about English professional football before they bought ?

Looks like it!

 

[Macfarlane21]

The amount off pressure that is relieved on Selles, the players and the owners by just bringing in JUST a CB and a RB would be immense

 

[MiserableBlader]

You have to feel sorry for the guy. Club is an utter shambles. Even worse than the last owners.

No you don't as I have explained throughout his disastrous reign.

The last owner was THE BEST owner we have had, rivaled only by Reg Brearley
apart from his insane reappointment of Wilder. Making us a shambles and a global laughing stock in the Premier and the biggest **** up in the championship since three promotion spots were afforded via the playoffs.

He spent ALL the money (and more) gained on promotion - wasted by the imbecile Wilder
Clung on to players to try and ensure promotion (if not after) for a second promotion.
Left Wilder with a squad to top the league and win promotion yet again.

And got rid of the club only because on seeing this sort of mindless stupid criticism (AND VILE ABUSE) that none of the many billionaires he knew would have touched this racist clubs fans with a bargepole to ensure he could retain control and exploit the opportunities.
(Jordan stated that)

He also tried to stop the criminal waste of young talent by Wilder as in the Peck situation (RS interview)
(Too late admittedly)

The only questions about Saudi49er are

did he appoint the imbecile Wilder to show just how thick the fans were and push their noses in it before he left
Or was he that thick as well?

did he (also) screw the fans with COH or was he hoodwinked by shysters (as it appears so far anyway) as he was with McCabe?

The most positive thing I can say at the moment is we all make mistakes, (me more than most in life,) particularly when starting out.
Can Selles and/or COH learn from them.

The negative is will they even recognize mistakes and even try to rectify.
Will any much needed, good players be interested in coming here now after the disastrous start I predicted weeks ago.

On a lighter note

 

[PrestwichBlade]

No you don't as I have explained throughout his disastrous reign.

The last owner was THE BEST owner we have had, rivaled only by Reg Brearley
apart from his insane reappointment of Wilder. Making us a shambles and a global laughing stock in the Premier and the biggest **** up in the championship since three promotion spots were afforded via the playoffs.

He spent ALL the money (and more) gained on promotion - wasted by the imbecile Wilder
Clung on to players to try and ensure promotion (if not after) for a second promotion.
Left Wilder with a squad to top the league and win promotion yet again.

And got rid of the club only because on seeing this sort of mindless stupid criticism (AND VILE ABUSE) that none of the many billionaires he knew would have touched this racist clubs fans with a bargepole to ensure he could retain control and exploit the opportunities.
(Jordan stated that)

He also tried to stop the criminal waste of young talent by Wilder as in the Peck situation (RS interview)
(Too late admittedly)

The only questions about Saudi49er are

did he appoint the imbecile Wilder to show just how thick the fans were and push their noses in it before he left
Or was he that thick as well?

did he (also) screw the fans with COH or was he hoodwinked by shysters (as it appears so far anyway) as he was with McCabe?

The most positive thing I can say at the moment is we all make mistakes, (me more than most in life,) particularly when starting out.
Can Selles and/or COH learn from them.

The negative is will they even recognize mistakes and even try to rectify.
Will any much needed, good players be interested in coming here now after the disastrous start I predicted weeks ago.

On a lighter note

Can I be the first to say... I really enjoy your posts

 

[SB_90]

Selles’ comments after Birmingham and before Swansea have well and truly put a rocket up the new owners. I was saying to someone yesterday that he looked furious in both. If that’s what is being said publicly, then I dread to think what was being said in private chats.

Can’t blame him either. This is long-term poor planning. We all knew back in December when Souttar got injured & in hindight it derailed our season, as we went from conceding 0.5 a game to 1.1. But I digress, we knew we needed at least 2 centre-backs, minimum, by the summer. Yet here we are in mid-August, still needing replacements for Anel, Souttar, RND and Robbo… with 2 weeks to sort it.

I assume that Caceres being sold is to free up a space for Zatterstrom, & Hopefully by the next home game, the defence actually looks like a defence.

 

[Servigliano]

You have to feel sorry for the guy. Club is an utter shambles. Even worse than the last owners.

It must be worrying for anybody in a vulnerable position/possibly sacrificed, that they may well be "thrown under the bus".
However the expression THE bus implies that it's a special and unique bus that has to arrive before said person can actually be thrown under it.
Worryingly for Seles and other potential sacrificees it now seems that the arrival of any old bus will do.
If this be true then the odds of Seles's surviving have been drastically reduced.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

There's an eerie deja vu of Jokanovic about this.

 

[UTB Blade]

No you don't as I have explained throughout his disastrous reign.

The last owner was THE BEST owner we have had, rivaled only by Reg Brearley
apart from his insane reappointment of Wilder. Making us a shambles and a global laughing stock in the Premier and the biggest **** up in the championship since three promotion spots were afforded via the playoffs.

He spent ALL the money (and more) gained on promotion - wasted by the imbecile Wilder
Clung on to players to try and ensure promotion (if not after) for a second promotion.
Left Wilder with a squad to top the league and win promotion yet again.

And got rid of the club only because on seeing this sort of mindless stupid criticism (AND VILE ABUSE) that none of the many billionaires he knew would have touched this racist clubs fans with a bargepole to ensure he could retain control and exploit the opportunities.
(Jordan stated that)

He also tried to stop the criminal waste of young talent by Wilder as in the Peck situation (RS interview)
(Too late admittedly)

The only questions about Saudi49er are

did he appoint the imbecile Wilder to show just how thick the fans were and push their noses in it before he left
Or was he that thick as well?

did he (also) screw the fans with COH or was he hoodwinked by shysters (as it appears so far anyway) as he was with McCabe?

The most positive thing I can say at the moment is we all make mistakes, (me more than most in life,) particularly when starting out.
Can Selles and/or COH learn from them.

The negative is will they even recognize mistakes and even try to rectify.
Will any much needed, good players be interested in coming here now after the disastrous start I predicted weeks ago.

On a lighter note

There's no wonder you're miserable, mate. You dig out a video of "Crying", and don't choose the best one there is.

Here you go, mate, if this doesn't cheer you up, nothing will!





Just re-watched it, now , and I'm sitting here giggling away to myself.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

I genuinely hope we fluke a win or 2 before we get in much needed reinforcements. If for no other reason to shut up the usual tune coming out of Eeyore and the Doom Bots.

FYI - having a constant, unwavering negative view on everything doesn’t make you wise, or even a realist. It makes you the person everyone secretly conspires to avoid at work and social gatherings.

 

[SB_90]

There's an eerie deja vu of Jokanovic about this.

this time we have to stick with it. because im not sure how many people want wilder part 4

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

We've played one league game, lads. I think it's a bit early to be declaring us a total shambles and suggesting our situation is even remotely like Sheffield Wednesday's.

And, yes, the manager has been dropped in it by his bosses (this seems to be an annual event now, irrespective of who the owners are). But we also have a good enough first XI to win games at this level. It's not like we can't possibly beat Swansea today. This isn't Hecky going into the Premier League with a midfield of Ben Osborn, Oliver Norwood and Chris Basham.

 

[shaun the blade 1961]

I too have seen it all since 1959. First game 1961. I am absolutely with you on everything you say. We have both got the T shirt and we recognise the signs. How not to run a club and man manage.

Yes let me join this little club, was put into supporters club, when 1 day old, by my uncle, first match 4 years later 1961
Iv seen this coming for a while now, owners dont have any football experience, I recognised the signs after play off final, I'm totally in agreement with previous posts about this

 

[BDTBL-JT]

He was brought in as a disposable yes man. They knew wilder would have demanded signings which shock horror would require investment.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Yes, he has been shafted. You will find no one who agrees with that more than me. He has had no backing, has no squad depth, has very few experienced pros. The recruitment has been APPALLING and largely nonexistent.

However, for what is a side that still holds some talent within the XI and given that we have signed him to play attacking (kamikaze) football, we've had 1 shot in 2 games. That can't be right.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

I said to my brother a few weeks ago that Selles could be the first manager in the Championship to go. I did say I would love to be wrong, but it could go both ways, and still can.

My logic was that he's not, at least so far, had much backing in the transfer market. Many(?) fans didn't want Wilder to go, so for sure those supporters will have less patience than those who wanted a change.

Getting 90+ points is/was always going to be a tall order, so the bar was set very high from the get go.

I personally didn't want Wilder to stay, but I wasn't very excited or optimistic when Selles was appointed either.

If you park all that for a moment, I can't believe people are on his back already after a couple of games.

Time will tell I guess.

Still sticking by what I said here.

I will caveat it by saying I've not seen the games (only highlights), but still too early to be talking about sacking a manager this early in my view.

I can certainly see why many people want him out already though!

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Unless he's planning on getting 3 midfielders and a winger in by next saturday i don't see any change coming if he stays on as manager needs binning off before its too late

 

[BigBed]

Anyone got the keys to this bus!???