Samir Carruthers

[Steve Mackan]

Fleck's suspended for the next game - who comes in?

I like Lundstram, but I think he's jumped a place in the pecking order due to being a natural replacement when Coutts is out, but not Fleck. I actually think Carruthers is a far more logical replacement for Fleck than his position at the start of the season with him and Duffy vying for the shirt.

3 games in 8 days anyone else hope/reckon he'll get a chance?

 

[I should coco]

Interesting OP but I'd not even thought about Samir and assumed Lundy was nailed on.

Showing my ignorance, I don't know how QPR play and that might end up being the deciding factor.

Samir is an obvious option to come on in the second when we are behind, but that hasn't really happened very much. Not sure about his match fitness to start,

Tell you what, I'll let Chris decide. He has a track record of getting these things right.

 

[Steve Mackan]

Interesting OP but I'd not even thought about Samir and assumed Lundy was nailed on.

Tell you what, I'll let Chris decide. He has a track record of getting these things right.

Think I'll allow Chris to decide too but I think Samir was very unlucky to lose his shirt and found himself behind Duffy due to Duffy's outrageous form. I think Carruthers is more mobile than Lundstram and I think we need that pacier dynamic in midfield.

 

[I should coco]

I think Carruthers is more mobile than Lundstram and I think we need that pacier dynamic in midfield

Trouble is that Samir can't tackle and Lundstram most certainly can. I take your point about attacking flair though.

So Samir or Lundstram? Watch CW surprise us all and shove Bash forward......

 

[iBlade.]

Both players should be well capable of doing a job, Carruthers will be desperate to get a game I would have thought, but my gut feeling is that CW will play Lundstram.

 

[Foody]

I think it'll be Lundstram or Bash, don't think Samir can do enough of the defensive stuff, especially not in a midfield with Coutts and Duffy.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Fleck's suspended for the next game - who comes in?

I like Lundstram, but I think he's jumped a place in the pecking order due to being a natural replacement when Coutts is out, but not Fleck. I actually think Carruthers is a far more logical replacement for Fleck than his position at the start of the season with him and Duffy vying for the shirt.

3 games in 8 days anyone else hope/reckon he'll get a chance?

I think you've got that spot on. I can see why Lundstram would be cover for Coutts. But Fleck plays a different midfield role to Coutts. Fleck is the one to drive forward with the ball - so if he's out you have replace him with someone similar. That, to me, is definitely not Lundstram. He's more defensive, Mr 5 yard sideways and backwards pass. Carruthers is the logical choice to replace Fleck as you've said.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Trouble is that Samir can't tackle and Lundstram most certainly can.

"Occasionally" he can. He's put in some crunching tackles here and there, for sure. But a lot of the time he's left chasing shadows because the other team's players are too fast for him. That's my main gripe with him tbh - he just looks rather flat-footed and slow. To be fair to the lad, he's still adjusting to a higher level of football, we'll see how he goes.

 

[Minty]

"To be fair to the lad, he's still adjusting to a higher level of football, we'll see how he goes.

Not sure about that CB....Samir had a whole season in the Champ with MKD so should be used to the step up. I just think he is too inconsistent generally.

 

[wizadry]

I like Samir and he’s the only player who comes close to the role that Fleck plays so unless Wilder tweaks the system i can see Samir coming in for a starting role.

 

[McGrath]

I had been thinking that like for like Fleck=Carruthers and Coutts=Lundstram.

We shall see, you never know he might stick Basham on there instead

 

[wizadry]

Not sure about that CB....Samir had a whole season in the Champ with MKD so should be used to the step up. I just think he is too inconsistent generally.

He’s on about Lundstram, mate.

 

[Steve Mackan]

Carruthers is the logical choice to replace Fleck as you've said.

I think so. I understand the tackling argument, but our best form of Defense is attacking the opposition and I think we lose a little of that if we play double-Coutts with a player that int as good as Coutts.

 

[Bladey McBladeface]

Having a glance at the Wolves forum I got the the impression that QPR outmuscled Wolves a bit this weekend. I’m expecting Lundstram to start. Wilder can always bring Samir/Brooks on as a replacement should we need more flair.

 

[TTMeysh]

I feel a bit sorry for Carruthers, he has looked good in flashes but seems to have slipped down the pecking order and it isn't obvious how he will get into the team as a starter. If Duffy (God forbid) gets injured, I would expect Brooks now to be the obvious alternate and I don't see Carruthers as a like for like replacement for either Coutts or Fleck.

 

[Steve Mackan]

I feel a bit sorry for Carruthers, he has looked good in flashes but seems to have slipped down the pecking order and it isn't obvious how he will get into the team as a starter. If Duffy (God forbid) gets injured, I would expect Brooks now to be the obvious alternate and I don't see Carruthers as a like for like replacement for either Coutts or Fleck.

I do too.

Have to disagree in regards to Brooks for Duffy if Duffy injured. Brooks does not play like Duffy does, doesn't hold onto the ball and doesn't help is keep the ball in the final third. I think Wilder will have learned that after swapping Brooks for Duffy at Reading, which led to our inability to keep the ball up top.

 

[Dnblade]

I agree, i mentioned on a different thread I thought Samir is a more like for like swap for Fleck...probably not as good defensively as Fleck,but can drive forward with the ball and goes past people.
I'm happy to go with whoever...people were dubious about Lundstram in for Coutts,but he did ok,didn't let anyone down ..Samir no different,he must be chomping at the bit to get a game,as he's not featured much so far.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

I had been thinking that like for like Fleck=Carruthers and Coutts=Lundstram.

We shall see, you never know he might stick Basham on there instead

I think it's more Coutts=Lundstram and Duffy=Carruthers, to stand in for Fleck perhaps either has a case for being the replacement. Personally I think Lundstrum will get the nod Tuesday night as he seems to have gone up the pecking order, I also reckon a midfield three of Coutts-Carruthers-Duffy would be too lightweight, especially in an away game.

Carruthers getting a start might not be the worst thing in the world, as he knows he's going to have to put in a decent performance to get in the first team.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Trouble is that Samir can't tackle and Lundstram most certainly can. I take your point about attacking flair though.

So Samir or Lundstram? Watch CW surprise us all and shove Bash forward......

It wouldn't disappoint me at all if he chose that option , which would then allow him to bring Jake back in move CCV into Bash's role.

 

[TTMeysh]

Brooks does not play like Duffy does, doesn't hold onto the ball and doesn't help is keep the ball in the final third

I agree that at the moment he is better as a '10' playing just behind the main striker (singular). It is probably in his and our long-term interest though that he develops the mentality to track back when needed and hold the ball up when needed. He's not physically robust enough to shield the ball but his quick feet will allow him to find space and/or draw the foul - I think it is a mental thing as much as anything.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Fleck's suspended for the next game - who comes in?

I like Lundstram, but I think he's jumped a place in the pecking order due to being a natural replacement when Coutts is out, but not Fleck. I actually think Carruthers is a far more logical replacement for Fleck than his position at the start of the season with him and Duffy vying for the shirt.

3 games in 8 days anyone else hope/reckon he'll get a chance?

See #13.

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/team-v-qpr.59315/#post-1496427

UTB

 

[Ricky]

I expect him to start. But not in Fleck's place.

Lundstram's likely to replace Fleck but it wouldn't surprise me if Basham did, with Stearman possibly coming back into the defence.

 

[Blade56]

Trouble is that Samir can't tackle and Lundstram most certainly can. I take your point about attacking flair though.

So Samir or Lundstram? Watch CW surprise us all and shove Bash forward......

Samir's problem isn't replacing Fleck or Duffy, it's the emergence of Brooke's pushing him down the order. Could see Samir out on loan in January, possibly even moving on.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

What a good predicament to have. Squad depth at its finest. Well done Tufty.

 

[Steve Mackan]

Samir's problem isn't replacing Fleck or Duffy, it's the emergence of Brooke's pushing him down the order. Could see Samir out on loan in January, possibly even moving on.

I really don't get this at all. Brooks is quality and can play up front. I'm highly sceptical that he can play in the Duffy role. Reading at home was proof of this. He runs with the ball, Duffy keeps the ball.

I think, at some point, Wilder will go 3-4-3 with Brooks up top with Donaldson and Clarke, but no way can Brooks be considered similar to Duffy.

There was a thread on someone meeting Paul Coutts at Whirlow Farm (or summat on them lines), I'm pretty sure everyone in the squad recognises Carruthers as one of the better footballers. He just needs another chance.

 

[Stretch]

I think Samir has more of Fleck's attributes, box to box with lots of energy, no shortage of skill and can put a foot in. Lundstram seems to be the best choice when we are looking to sure things up, although he did play very well from the start v Forest but then Fleck was also on the field to support the attacking moves. Can John perform this role from the start?

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Fleck's suspended for the next game - who comes in?

I like Lundstram, but I think he's jumped a place in the pecking order due to being a natural replacement when Coutts is out, but not Fleck. I actually think Carruthers is a far more logical replacement for Fleck than his position at the start of the season with him and Duffy vying for the shirt.

3 games in 8 days anyone else hope/reckon he'll get a chance?

It's important that all the so called fringe player can see a way back into the side. For Carruthers this is in Flecks place. It's like every first teamer having a natural understudy. If I was him and got overlooked on Tuesday in favour of Lundstram I'd be quietly pissed off.

 

[Bayingblade]

Left field suggestion but is Nathan Thomas fit and ready? Looked lively pre season

 

[Pinchy]

It wouldn't disappoint me at all if he chose that option , which would then allow him to bring Jake back in move CCV into Bash's role.

Why? There is no imperative, other than parochial sentimentality to ‘bring Jake back in’ and certainly no need to do anything to artificially “enable” it.

 

[Pinchy]

I'm pretty sure everyone in the squad recognises Carruthers as one of the better footballers. He just needs another chance.

Unfortunately for him, his needs don’t matter. Only those of Sheffield United do. Lundstram will play and rightly so.