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dn5 shaun said:
This season he must push on, and Cannon will come good🫰
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Agreed.

I keeping thinking I must be the only one who thinks Cannon will be a great asset.

January is such a hard time to join a team, especially one doing well and where your involvement is bit part. His finish v Burnley was one of the most clinical from any player all season. Looks simple, but very very clinical. Then he tried too hard, made wrong decisions because of it. This season - the focus will be on the manager, he can go under the radar and flourish.
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Agreed.

I keeping thinking I must be the only one who thinks Cannon will be a great asset.

January is such a hard time to join a team, especially one doing well and where your involvement is bit part. His finish v Burnley was one of the most clinical from any player all season. Looks simple, but very very clinical. Then he tried too hard, made wrong decisions because of it. This season - the focus will be on the manager, he can go under the radar and flourish.
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You are 🤣
 
Quality last night. Definitely worth keeping around until the end of the window and having a thorough look at him. Think he’d do well as an impact player towards the end of games, has pace and stature that’s frightening for his age. If he’s playing a bit part with the occasional appearance I’d be looking at loaning him out for six months and assessing where he’s at.
 
Bit of rewriting history in this thread.

Ryan Oné was given chances. Likewise Arblaster, Seriki, Peck, Brooks and others.
We were in an automatic promotion battle. Wilder played his best available players and also managed to blood a lot of youngsters.

Had Oné, or anybody else, made a strong enough case, they'd have got the minutes.

Oné looked great against York City.
Osula and Jebbison, similarly, looked great against weaker opposition.
He's shown some promise, but there's a good chance he isn't ready for Championship football yet. Let's wait and see.
 
I don't even think he looked great last night. He scored 2 and was a nuisance but he also made the wrong decision on a couple more. For me, he needs a 6 month loan in league 1, playing every week. He's not going to be consistent at his age.

That's not to say he played badly. He played well. But his decision making is very mixed.

I remember how this board went mad for Mousset after a friendly against Doncaster.
 
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CaptainMorgans said:
Bit of rewriting history in this thread.

Ryan Oné was given chances. Likewise Arblaster, Seriki, Peck, Brooks and others.
We were in an automatic promotion battle. Wilder played his best available players and also managed to blood a lot of youngsters.

Had Oné, or anybody else, made a strong enough case, they'd have got the minutes.

Oné looked great against York City.
Osula and Jebbison, similarly, looked great against weaker opposition.
He's shown some promise, but there's a good chance he isn't ready for Championship football yet. Let's wait and see.
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Cannon has about triple the minutes than Onè did for us last season. Same amount of goals too by the way. You get bought for 10m and you automatically get a run of games to be terrible in. A young player looks out of his depth in one game and you won’t see him in the squad for two months.

Wilder’s second stint he showed he’d improved on his flaw of giving youngsters no opportunities and we clearly benefitted from it. Being hyper-critical though he still wanted to loan out Peck, and signed Cannon which blocked Onè for zero added benefit.
 
Balham said:
He's not alone. There should have been a strategic approach to getting the fringe youth players used to playing regular first team football rather than the actual approach which seemed to be to call them into the squad one match then bomb them out for the next six.
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Probably didn’t train hard enough, whatever that means.
 

robbiez666 said:
I don't even think he looked great last night. He scored 2 and was a nuisance but he also made the wrong decision on a couple more. For me, he needs a 6 month loan in league 1, playing every week. He's not going to be consistent at his age.

That's not to say he played badly. He played well. But his decision making is very mixed.

I remember how this board went mad for Mousset after a friendly against Doncaster.
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The same Mousett that was unplayable at times and undoubtedly contributed to our 9th place PL finish?

Preseason friendlies are no place to judge the quality of players, agreed, but low quality opponents don't make good players shite.

Oné needs loads of game time, l don't think he's level with where Osula was when he left us, but I'm exited to see him play. His stature and skill set are relatively unique, especially given his age. That's exciting and it's okay to be exited.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Why does this happen every pre-season? A youth player does well against a lower league team and suddenly he's going to be a regular starter and the best player in the division and we'll be lucky to keep him by the end of September.

Every single pre-season!

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Yeh , but let's not sell him , please , let him develop for longer than
DCL
Jebbo
Osula
One is an example of where player trading might work , but we have to resist cashing in early.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Why does this happen every pre-season? A youth player does well against a lower league team and suddenly he's going to be a regular starter and the best player in the division and we'll be lucky to keep him by the end of September.

Every single pre-season!

🤣🤣🤣
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Well I guess it's the same reason that loan him out to league one happens
Because we have thousands of fans with individual perspective and opinions
 
Ron_Justice said:
The same Mousett that was unplayable at times and undoubtedly contributed to our 9th place PL finish?

Preseason friendlies are no place to judge the quality of players, agreed, but low quality opponents don't make good players shite.

Oné needs loads of game time, l don't think he's level with where Osula was when he left us, but I'm exited to see him play. His stature and skill set are relatively unique, especially given his age. That's exciting and it's okay to be exited.
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This was after relegation when he just totalled cars, constantly 'injured' and ate all the takeaways.

Lys scored a couple against Donnie and suddenly he was the guy to fire us to promotion. Spoiler: he wasn't

Just saying that we have a history of getting carried away. I agree though, One needs games. Needs to play every week to improve.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
Bit of rewriting history in this thread.

Ryan Oné was given chances. Likewise Arblaster, Seriki, Peck, Brooks and others.
We were in an automatic promotion battle. Wilder played his best available players and also managed to blood a lot of youngsters.

Had Oné, or anybody else, made a strong enough case, they'd have got the minutes.

Oné looked great against York City.
Osula and Jebbison, similarly, looked great against weaker opposition.
He's shown some promise, but there's a good chance he isn't ready for Championship football yet. Let's wait and see.
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Truth be known we played defensively and brought him as a supplement to experience pros. Ryan has been highly thought of for a couple of years and will go all the way in the game according to coaching staff. I’ll be very disappointed if he is sold because I think he’ll score more than any striker has done in a long time if we keep him this season.
 
Controversial thought but I'd be on the phone to Jamie Vardy about coaching. Hate the prick but reckon he would be a goldmine of knowledge for the young lads
 
GrunkyPeep said:
Controversial thought but I'd be on the phone to Jamie Vardy about coaching. Hate the prick but reckon he would be a goldmine of knowledge for the young lads
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He still owes us a corner flag...

and I am pretty sure his experience is pretty unique. "what I did right, was down 3 or 4 red bulls, ate crappy food and then went on and scored loads of goals whilst winding up the opposition fans. Its easy mate" Reckon Leeds with their sponsorship would be a good fit.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Why does this happen every pre-season? A youth player does well against a lower league team and suddenly he's going to be a regular starter and the best player in the division and we'll be lucky to keep him by the end of September.

Every single pre-season!

🤣🤣🤣
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Peck managed it. Osula would have but we sold him for a good amount. That was just last year.
 
Keen Blade said:
Yeh , but let's not sell him , please , let him develop for longer than
DCL
Jebbo
Osula
One is an example of where player trading might work , but we have to resist cashing in early.
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If wed gone up hed have been kept and loaned out. I think hes in no man's land this season, not quite good enough yet to be trusted with a starting position but if we loan him to div one and he does nothing his value plummets.

For those reasons I think there's a very good chance he becomes Osula mark 2 and we cash in on a PL team taking a chance on him at 10m.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Why does this happen every pre-season? A youth player does well against a lower league team and suddenly he's going to be a regular starter and the best player in the division and we'll be lucky to keep him by the end of September.

Every single pre-season!

🤣🤣🤣
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I didnt go to the game but I have heard mixed reports about his performance. Some were coloured by his goals and thought he was brilliant but I heard a few question his fitness and that he seemed to be blowing heavily for a young lad that only played 45 mins and were questioning whether he would be able to hack Selles all action pressing style .
 

FriethBlade said:
If wed gone up hed have been kept and loaned out. I think hes in no man's land this season, not quite good enough yet to be trusted with a starting position but if we loan him to div one and he does nothing his value plummets.

For those reasons I think there's a very good chance he becomes Osula mark 2 and we cash in on a PL team taking a chance on him at 10m.
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He’s has is last game and he was very good. I think he’ll have a lot of very good games this season as long as we don’t cash in. No less than 20m and add ons because he’s a bright future.
 
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