Retained List

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

Bash's contract expires next year

Didn’t he sign a year extension in 2022?

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Didn’t he sign a year extension in 2022?

Nope 2 years

 

[Bladeinleeds]

We can only hope in hecky we finally have a manager with a ruthless streak , as a club we always seem to keep players past their sell by , whilst a lot of them have been great servants to the club there comes a point where even we see they're done, for me bash and Norwood should be very close to be released

I feel like I’ve suffered some sort of brain injury - I’m failing to believe the amount of people talking like Norwood is useless and should be released.

He was impeccable for 3/4 of last season and below average for about 5 games. Doesn’t mean he’s washed up. He’s had crap games and will do so again but He was in plenty of teams of the season last year.

We have 1 (ONE) other senior midfielder under contract.

We have max 20 million to spend . If we replace Norwood for no real reason and have say 4/5 million to replace him. Who could we get that’s even 50% of the player he’s shown himself to be

 

[Yoonited]

If true about O'Connell, I imagine this is to further lessen the chance of some kind of lawsuit regarding his initial treatment.

Do you seriously think a player who appears quite regularly on SUTV, commenting on some of his mates performances and the team in general would simultaneously be pursuing legal action against the club.

I think your taking cynicism to new levels.

 

[Bladesman]

Info.. Take it or leave it... wont reveal my source but they were very certain

Hecky only back from Holiday yesterday

Regards to the retained list... As expected

Fleck, Stevens and Sharp - Gone
Osborn offered new terms but rejected it - can only assume its to do with playing time

The real surprise for me was
O'Connell offered pay as you play to earn a contract

That's all I know - have a great day and UTB

JOC said in an interview the season finished a few games early for him. He seemed confident of at least trying to make some sort of comeback. So the news we might have offered him something isn't a surprise.

The rest of that news is not a surprise. We have had a decent season but Sharp has had almost the same game time as the previous season yet only bagged 2 league goals. Fleck and Stevens just can't seem to stay fit and compete at this level anymore.

 

[Bladesman]

Do you seriously think a player who appears quite regularly on SUTV, commenting on some of his mates performances and the team in general would simultaneously be pursuing legal action against the club.

I think your taking cynicism to new levels.

I genuinely think he believes he can return. I wouldn't want to be the one who says no to him either he looks a reyt unit these days.

 

[St Annington]

We have max 20 million to spend . If we replace Norwood for no real reason and have say 4/5 million to replace him. Who could we get that’s even 50% of the player he’s shown himself to be??

Conor Coady and convert him back to midfield.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Conor Coady and convert him back to midfield.

I see. So we want to take a player who hasn’t played that position for about a decade (in league(s) below) and expect him to be better than Norwood.

We would then also have 4 million less to spend on defence / left back / striker.

 

[BLADES1988]

Do you seriously think a player who appears quite regularly on SUTV, commenting on some of his mates performances and the team in general would simultaneously be pursuing legal action against the club.

I think your taking cynicism to new levels.

You never know. I assume the club has arranged this kind of thing for him, if we tore up his contract and binned him off a while ago it would be happening for sure.

 

[Bill puntin]

I think you may have something there Weasel - imagine the capacity crowd's reaction when Stevens, Fleck and Osborn are all announced in the starting line-up!!! Haha

And dont forget Billy to come of bench wow

 

[St Annington]

I see. So we want to take a player who hasn’t played that position for about a decade (in league(s) below) and expect him to be better than Norwood.

We would then also have 4 million less to spend on defence / left back / striker.

Coady is a better player than Norwood and could play midfield or defence so is value for money as a utility player.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Coady is a better player than Norwood and could play midfield or defence so is value for money as a utility player.

He's not a better midfielder.

Even if he was, he costs more and is on bigger wages. If we had a huge budget, maybe we could pay it to replace a player that doesn't really need replacing. We don't though.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Coady is a better player than Norwood and could play midfield or defence so is value for money as a utility player.

Coady hasn't played in midfield for almost 10 years.

 

[robbiez666]

Info.. Take it or leave it... wont reveal my source but they were very certain

Hecky only back from Holiday yesterday

Regards to the retained list... As expected

Fleck, Stevens and Sharp - Gone
Osborn offered new terms but rejected it - can only assume its to do with playing time

The real surprise for me was
O'Connell offered pay as you play to earn a contract

That's all I know - have a great day and UTB

If the JOC news is true it's baffling. At best, he'll need to go out on loan for months to get back to any level of fitness. How would that work on a pay to play?

 

[Keen Blade]

I believe we will release Sharp and Stevens.

I think we will give Fleck another year just cos we need numbers and are skint.

I could just about stomach the wrong decision to extend Fleck & Osborn by a year , but if they get a "proper" new contract beyond a year , I will be VERY DISAPPOINTED

 

[LondonBlade89]

If Stevens, Fleck and Sharp are indeed released that at least suggests there are plans to upgrade those positions which while not hard is welcome.

Osborn offered a new deal would suggest the upgrade plans are fairly bare bones.

 

[Addison]

I could just about stomach the wrong decision to extend Fleck & Osborn by a year , but if they get a "proper" new contract beyond a year , I will be VERY DISAPPOINTED

Reading about Norwood being able to invoke his own 1 year contract extension because he played in 50% or more of the games suggests Stevens, Fleck, Osborn and Billy have not met the criteria. I'm guessing the contract term referred to league starts and looking at the figures all of them except Sharp are way below the number of games required.

Stevens hardly kicked a ball for us last season. Fleck was involved in 25 league games with 14 starts 11 subs. Osborn 22 games with 13 starts and 9 subs. The captain was involved in 42 of the 46 games. Unfortunately only 19 were starts with 23 as sub so unlike the others he has fallen just below the bar. He made 2 starts in the cup and even that does not get him over the 50% threshold if you add in cup games to the total. We are talking about a years extension to existing contracts which no doubt will have an additional clause in that puts the player back on EPL money, probably double what they are on now, in the event of promotion. If this scenario is accurate you can understand Billys frustration that he has got so close.

That doesn't stop the Club offering a contract on new but probably much reduced terms as they appear to have in the case of Osborn if Rowt10's post is correct. So I doubt enhanced new contracts are being considered for any of the above.

 

[Razor1967]

I dread to think what this thread would be like if we hadn’t been promoted! Reality check needed. Careful what you wish for. As ever UTB

 

[Dkc]

Reading about Norwood being able to invoke his own 1 year contract extension because he played in 50% or more of the games suggests Stevens, Fleck, Osborn and Billy have not met the criteria. I'm guessing the contract term referred to league starts and looking at the figures all of them except Sharp are way below the number of games required.

Stevens hardly kicked a ball for us last season. Fleck was involved in 25 league games with 14 starts 11 subs. Osborn 22 games with 13 starts and 9 subs. The captain was involved in 42 of the 46 games. Unfortunately only 19 were starts with 23 as sub so unlike the others he has fallen just below the bar. He made 2 starts in the cup and even that does not get him over the 50% threshold if you add in cup games to the total. We are talking about a years extension to existing contracts which no doubt will have an additional clause in that puts the player back on EPL money, probably double what they are on now, in the event of promotion. If this scenario is accurate you can understand Billys frustration that he has got so close.

That doesn't stop the Club offering a contract on new but probably much reduced terms as they appear to have in the case of Osborn if Rowt10's post is correct. So I doubt enhanced new contracts are being considered for any of the above.

Never realised Captain Billy played in so many games. 42 out of 46 is testament to his fitness. He played an important part in our promotion, and it's a fitting swansong.

I'm sure he'll have been offered something here, but if he can earn similar at Bradford starting every week instead of not even being on the bench at the Lane, who can blame him?

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Never realised Captain Billy played in so many games. 42 out of 46 is testament to his fitness. He played an important part in our promotion, and it's a fitting swansong.

I'm sure he'll have been offered something here, but if he can earn similar at Bradford starting every week instead of not even being on the bench at the Lane, who can blame him?

I was shocked aswell because he only scored 3 goals aswell (I think).

 

[Dkc]

I was shocked aswell because he only scored 3 goals aswell (I think).

Loads of those appearances were as a sub on 75-80 mins. He helped preserve those leads though, and inspired the team. Worked his arse off during the minutes he got, scrapped for every ball. He also had five or six chances where he missed by a whisker.

 

[Nonamedhorse]

If the JOC news is true it's baffling. At best, he'll need to go out on loan for months to get back to any level of fitness. How would that work on a pay to play?

‘Any level of fitness’? Have you not seen him these days? I would go as far to say he is the fittest player in the entire squad. Now if you actually meant game time, then that’s a different matter.

 

[JohnDenver]

Since he’s had little mention…

If true, Osborn is doing the right thing for his career, but he’ll be so hard to replace. The ultimate squad player.

 

[chesblade]

Seems that Osborn just got married, must have been his stag do he got injured on

 

[ZLB]

And dont forget Billy to come of bench wow

Sarcastic disrespectful ****

 

[robbiez666]

‘Any level of fitness’? Have you not seen him these days? I would go as far to say he is the fittest player in the entire squad. Now if you actually meant game time, then that’s a different matter.

Sorry, that should have been match fitness. There's no way a player who has been out that long, with that kind of injury, can just play himself into a Premier League.

 

[Ron_Justice]

Just give him 60 mins at a time and watch the OPO players just bounce off him and run themselves into the ground.

 

[Scarebus]

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Just give him 60 mins at a time and watch the OPO players just bounce off him and run themselves into the ground.

Fucking hell

 

[Ranmoorblade]

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Just give him 60 mins at a time and watch the OPO players just bounce off him and run themselves into the ground.

Can he run and kick a ball though?

 

[Bill puntin]

Sarcastic disrespectful ****

Mardy ****