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CaptainMorgans said:
I know Brighton have an agenda, but a lot of footballers have young families just the same as all of us. Their wage is an irrelevance. If they are concerned that they may catch the virus by being forced to play a game of football then their concerns should be heard. These are unprecedented times. I wouldn't be happy with my employers forcing me to put myself at risk.
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Let's balance this up by saying that footballers are all in the lowest risk group 20 to 34 with no underlying symptoms. All tested regularly. All people will need to risk going back to work but few will only have 2 2 hour shifts a week to battle through. These chosen few will be monitored unlike any other people with on hand medical screening and attendance. Its still 3 times more likely stat wise to die from a mosquito bite than covid 19 in the world. We can live in fear forever or try and get back to some sort of life where we aren't all packed in our houses. I see zero danger for footballers compared to say construction workers . Or even office staff . They are outdoors and surrounded literally in cotton wool compared to 67 million other people
 
Good thread 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 even if I disagree with his assertion somewhere in the replies that the best case is a 22/23 team PL next year...
 
SellyOakBlade said:
Good thread 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 even if I disagree with his assertion somewhere in the replies that the best case is a 22/23 team PL next year...
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Believe me. All the if's, but's and maybe's that are out in the open via the media etc aren't even half the story of what could happen.
 
Upton_Blade said:
Believe me. All the if's, but's and maybe's that are out in the open via the media etc aren't even half the story of what could happen.
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The suggestion of non 45 minute halves isn't the stupidest???
 
The Government update today basically spelt it out they want the PL to finish and will back it with the added "if the experts think its safe to do so". Rightly saying the public need something to look forward to and a sign however small that things are and will get better.

Then reading the EFL chairmans statement the EFL want PL to finish season they want relegation/promotion. He also spelt it out that EFL clubs are in a very shaky financial situation and there will be legal battles if no PL season for relegations/promotions.
 
SellyOakBlade said:
The suggestion of non 45 minute halves isn't the stupidest???
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No that's utter baloney. Even The Prem hadn't a clue what that idiot Taylor was on about when he released that statement.

I'm talking more along the lines of the overall effect on football as a whole and probably not for public consumption.
 
As of April 27, 330 people aged between 15-45 had died 'with' Covid in the UK. The majority would have been very ill to begin with. For a super fit footballer, there is more chance of dying on the way to the ground than there is from covid.
 
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Davalon said:


Fair play to Farke
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To be fair to Farke, I've always thought he was a bit of a prick, but that's more to do with his accent and appearance to be honest. When he speaks, he actually (despite sounding like a 70s porn star) speaks very well. Clearly loves his football and despite hating Norwich, they do play some decent stuff, unfortunately with a soft underbelly.

Even away from the lights, Wilder has said he gets on with him despite that initial game shenanigans.
 
Tarqs said:
To be fair to Farke, I've always thought he was a bit of a prick, but that's more to do with his accent and appearance to be honest. When he speaks, he actually (despite sounding like a 70s porn star) speaks very well. Clearly loves his football and despite hating Norwich, they do play some decent stuff, unfortunately with a soft underbelly.

Even away from the lights, Wilder has said he gets on with him despite that initial game shenanigans.
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I don't mind Farke tbh. Generally comes across as pretty decent even though I hate Norwich and I like the way he sets his team up to play.

Unfortunately I think what he probably gets wrong is not adapting based on the tools at his disposal so to speak.
 
One way the season could be continued is by players keeping to social distancing on the pitch.
This would actually benefit West Ham as our defence & Mark Noble in particular, had already been practising that all season.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Maybe a hitch in Germany's restart plan

www.thesun.co.uk

Monchengladbach star tests positive for coronavirus ten days before season restart

AN UNNAMED Borussia Monchengladbach star has tested positive for coronavirus and been immediately quarantined just TEN DAYS before the Bundesliga season is slated to restart. German football has be…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
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They've had 10 positive tests overall after testing ALL the players but are still planning on restarting in a couple of weeks anyway apparently.
 

OK mr. Farke

League ends now, and standings are frozen

So your team start in the Championship whenever the season starts again

Is that OK ?
 
blade too long said:
Let's balance this up by saying that footballers are all in the lowest risk group 20 to 34 with no underlying symptoms. All tested regularly. All people will need to risk going back to work but few will only have 2 2 hour shifts a week to battle through. These chosen few will be monitored unlike any other people with on hand medical screening and attendance. Its still 3 times more likely stat wise to die from a mosquito bite than covid 19 in the world. We can live in fear forever or try and get back to some sort of life where we aren't all packed in our houses. I see zero danger for footballers compared to say construction workers . Or even office staff . They are outdoors and surrounded literally in cotton wool compared to 67 million other people
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blade too long said:
I see zero danger for footballers compared to say construction workers . Or even office staff . They are outdoors and surrounded literally in cotton wool compared to 67 million other people.
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It‘s not like they’re going to walk out the front door and the only people they will interact with in the course of completing these games are the other people on the pitch, all outdoors. That’s an over-simplistic look at the situation.

There was a piece the other day I read that certainly put a different slant on it for me, and that was in seeing comments from Joni McAnuff at Leyton Orient, where he particularly highlights that people in the homes of some of the players will be in the vulnerable groups. The biggest challenge to completing the season here if a degree of restrictions are likely to continue is to do so in a way that alleviates the concerns some players legitimately have about returning at this time.

I do want us to complete this season, but at the same time it’s difficult to say that the concerns like below aren‘t valid.

McAnuff tells The Athletic: “I really find it difficult when I look at people saying ‘football will be back in a few weeks’… I just find it incomprehensible that we could even be talking about that at the moment. Sometimes people forget that (footballers) are normal in the sense that we’ve all got families, some of us have vulnerable adults. I am delivering food parcels to my parents. We’ve got wives and some have very young children, and obviously being around to support them is very important.

“A lot of people talk about the physical aspect and the damage that it could cause at that level but I do also think that there’s a big mental consideration to be looked at as well. And I think getting in players who don’t want (to return), or are not comfortable, is going to be counter-productive because there is no way you can go out onto a pitch when you’re worrying about other issues. I certainly think it’s going to be very important that you get the players on board up and down the country at various clubs. This is not a blanket decision. This is not what’s right for one is right for another. You can’t tell somebody specifically that he has to do X or Y when it comes to the health of him or his family. I don’t think you can cross that line.”

The concerns are registering with clubs. A source high up at one club added: “We have one player whose wife is on the list of people who can’t come into contact with others. She got a letter in week one [advising her] to isolate. She’s the mother of his two kids. What do you do? That is the human part. You might say, ‘You’re paid a lot of money get on with it.’ But it’s not worth more than life, is it? There will be push back from the PFA and the LMA. At the minute all these talks are to do with money, and a little bit about the public being happy football is back on the telly.”
 
LoughboroBlade said:
It‘s not like they’re going to walk out the front door and the only people they will interact with in the course of completing these games are the other people on the pitch, all outdoors. That’s an over-simplistic look at the situation.

There was a piece the other day I read that certainly put a different slant on it for me, and that was in seeing comments from Joni McAnuff at Leyton Orient, where he particularly highlights that people in the homes of some of the players will be in the vulnerable groups. The biggest challenge to completing the season here if a degree of restrictions are likely to continue is to do so in a way that alleviates the concerns some players legitimately have about returning at this time.

I do want us to complete this season, but at the same time it’s difficult to say that the concerns like below aren‘t valid.

McAnuff tells The Athletic: “I really find it difficult when I look at people saying ‘football will be back in a few weeks’… I just find it incomprehensible that we could even be talking about that at the moment. Sometimes people forget that (footballers) are normal in the sense that we’ve all got families, some of us have vulnerable adults. I am delivering food parcels to my parents. We’ve got wives and some have very young children, and obviously being around to support them is very important.

“A lot of people talk about the physical aspect and the damage that it could cause at that level but I do also think that there’s a big mental consideration to be looked at as well. And I think getting in players who don’t want (to return), or are not comfortable, is going to be counter-productive because there is no way you can go out onto a pitch when you’re worrying about other issues. I certainly think it’s going to be very important that you get the players on board up and down the country at various clubs. This is not a blanket decision. This is not what’s right for one is right for another. You can’t tell somebody specifically that he has to do X or Y when it comes to the health of him or his family. I don’t think you can cross that line.”

The concerns are registering with clubs. A source high up at one club added: “We have one player whose wife is on the list of people who can’t come into contact with others. She got a letter in week one [advising her] to isolate. She’s the mother of his two kids. What do you do? That is the human part. You might say, ‘You’re paid a lot of money get on with it.’ But it’s not worth more than life, is it? There will be push back from the PFA and the LMA. At the minute all these talks are to do with money, and a little bit about the public being happy football is back on the telly.”
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I get that they have concerns and find certain aspects of what they have to do as being risky BUT there are millions more of us who are happy or have to take equal or greater risks without the testing and being wrapped in cotton wool that these people will be. I get that they my have concerns with regards other family members but don’t the majority of us? Every step outside your front door has an element of risk at the moment. It’s amazing how we are all worried about the fragile footballer yet are all happy for our NHS staff, supermarket workers and other key jobs to take far greater risks on our behalf. Can you imagine if they all thought they should stay at home?
 
spongebobblade said:
I get that they have concerns and find certain aspects of what they have to do as being risky BUT there are millions more of us who are happy or have to take equal or greater risks without the testing and being wrapped in cotton wool that these people will be. I get that they my have concerns with regards other family members but don’t the majority of us? Every step outside your front door has an element of risk at the moment. It’s amazing how we are all worried about the fragile footballer yet are all happy for our NHS staff, supermarket workers and other key jobs to take far greater risks on our behalf. Can you imagine if they all thought they should stay at home?
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If they are that concerned for their well being risking going out to a restricted environment makes me wonder how they have been getting their shopping. I've probably put myself "more at risk" getting the shopping nearly every week. At least if they play football its in a more controlled environment and they are only coming into contact with people they know and where they have been plus they are getting tested. Thats more than the average non key worker in the street is having. Some of them I really feel sorry for on their 20% reduction of £10000 a week or whatever it is I bet some of them are more than happy to stay at home. Meanwhile real players like Baldock speak up and can't wait to get back into the game despite stating trepidation.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
Isn’t it ok to be concerned about both?
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Certainly is but our NHS and other key workers just got on with it despite the lack of PPE. I’ve a feeling that a fair number of pampered premier league players will still attempt to resist a restart no matter what measures are put in place to help them
 
spongebobblade said:
Certainly is but our NHS and other key workers just got on with it despite the lack of PPE. I’ve a feeling that a fair number of pampered premier league players will still attempt to resist a restart no matter what measures are put in place to help them
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There is a bit of a difference though between staff delivering an essential life-saving service or others delivering key services, and footballers delivering the nation’s past-time at a time the rest of the country doesn’t have the ability to return to their usual workplaces. To be fair, I can’t in all honesty say that there aren’t some footballers that as you describe might use the situation as an excuse rather than as a genuine reason not to play. But can you in all honesty say that there isn’t a single one of our squad of 25 and coaching staff that definitely doesn’t have any genuine concerns? The fact that Baldock’s voiced his view based on his judgment of the risk to him and those that may share his living situation doesn’t mean that this applies to all the squad. I’d actually be extremely surprised if there wasn’t more than one.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
There is a bit of a difference though between staff delivering an essential life-saving service or others delivering key services, and footballers delivering the nation’s past-time at a time the rest of the country doesn’t have the ability to return to their usual workplaces. To be fair, I can’t in all honesty say that there aren’t some footballers that as you describe might use the situation as an excuse rather than as a genuine reason not to play. But can you in all honesty say that there isn’t a single one of our squad of 25 and coaching staff that definitely doesn’t have any genuine concerns? The fact that Baldock’s voiced his view based on his judgment of the risk to him and those that may share his living situation doesn’t mean that this applies to all the squad. I’d actually be extremely surprised if there wasn’t more than one.
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Ravel has opted out on grounds of being a misunderstood genius.
 
I know it probably doesn't mean much but just checked on Flashscores and there seems to be a few more matches due to be played around the world on Saturday.
For the last few weeks only games in Belarus, Sweden & Nicaragua have been taking place. But it now seems that matches in South Korea & Faroe islands are also taking place.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
No vaccine for SARS/MERS/HIV so why do people think one will be successful for Covid-19? Even the flu jab is only 45% effective and that is ahead of any Coronavirus treatments. The only way to defeat this virus will be through herding so may as let everyone get back to where they were. Keep the 2% at risk shielded until it's stamped out.
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We have had a flu vaccine for nearly 80 years, yet in 1999/2000 between 20,000 and 48,000 died from it in the UK.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...rofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25

Though in that year the media had more important things to focus on like the new millennium celebrations.
 
Did anyone see Steve parishes interview quite stark saying from August they won't have income in the PL and players will be found they have a postive covid test result

Rick parry saying they need 200m for the efl with the lawyers getting ready if 3 teams dont go up.
 

LoughboroBlade said:
There is a bit of a difference though between staff delivering an essential life-saving service or others delivering key services, and footballers delivering the nation’s past-time at a time the rest of the country doesn’t have the ability to return to their usual workplaces. To be fair, I can’t in all honesty say that there aren’t some footballers that as you describe might use the situation as an excuse rather than as a genuine reason not to play. But can you in all honesty say that there isn’t a single one of our squad of 25 and coaching staff that definitely doesn’t have any genuine concerns? The fact that Baldock’s voiced his view based on his judgment of the risk to him and those that may share his living situation doesn’t mean that this applies to all the squad. I’d actually be extremely surprised if there wasn’t more than one.
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I take your point, but where is the option for a key worker to opt out based purely on the fact they have concerns? If the government and employers deem it safe enough for various jobs to resume with the best possible safeguards in place then why shouldn’t the same apply to footballers?. The argument that they aren’t a key worker is irrelevant. Within the next week or two you would expect the majority of the uk workforce to start back. Plenty will have concerns. Almost none will have the safeguards footballers have. Most will just get on with it. Whether we like it or not it’s going to be part of our lives for the foreseeable future
 
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