Prince ?

[Sothall_Blade]

The pendulum of sexual equality has swung too much towards parity in my opinion since Emily Pankhurst, and there’s no harm in it being reset and going t’other way a bit.

Wow.

Any particular areas where you think women are being treated too much like our equals?

 

[diplomat]

Do people forget that it was KMc who invited the prince on board?

If Clough had not wasted all the princes £s and we had got back up in the Princes first season I reckon that neither of our 2 owners would still be at the club by now....

But I’d have stopped going after regularly slipping in to a coma watching a clough team for any longer.

 

[stringer]

What about him wanting his own man in as manager and not Wilder?

What about it?

 

[Bill puntin]

What about him wanting his own man in as manager and not Wilder?

That's true wilder will be gone if prince wins.

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

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That's terrible, a disgrace!
It's not the sort of publicity the club needs either!

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Wow.

Any particular areas where you think women are being treated too much like our equals?

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

No he can't because it is illegal in this country.

Don’t get out much do you? That shit is everywhere

 

[YES Blade]

That's probably the most offensive thing I've seen on here. Basically you've just put the female sex back to the days before the suffragettes and legitimised a stone age culture in respect of human rights.

The UK legitimise the Saudi culture every single day! Take BAE Systems for example, they are a British Company with massive contracts in Saudi, are you protesting for Women’s right at their headquarters?

I don’t remember anyone having an issue when the Prince became co-owner, yet we all knew about the Saudi culture.

Basically everyone turns a blind eye because of the sums of money involved with dealing with the Saudis. It shouldn’t be this way, but it’s unfortunately how it is. If you have an issue then take it to Westminster and not a football club!

 

[Blade56]

If the club had any involvement in removing a female employee they should be made to apologise, disgraceful if correct.

Then, ask all the gay members of staff to attend the BRP.

If he does take over and he has to adhere to his beliefs will the bars be shut down?

 

[Bill puntin]

Don’t get out much do you? That shit is everywhere

No your right I'm old so don't know much about that world , yor welcome to it.

 

[YES Blade]

You have to pick and chose your battles in life, and this isn’t something that I prepared to go into battle over.

If the consequence of him becoming more active at the club, bringing more Saudi (serious) money with him and financing a sustained top 5 push in the prem, is that a few part time employed young women are unable to serve lukewarm Lager and get your change wrong on a match day, then so be it. I’m fairly relaxed about it, no one’s died have they?

We’ve already seen this since the Prince became co-owner at United, no one was moaning about human rights when we were near the bottom of League One and looking like we could get relegated. The Prince was seen as the saviour of the club and was going to lead us back to the Premier League.

In nearly 6 years of being at the club, is this the first time this has happened? He’s been to United matches before including away matches, there must have been similar requests made. Why is it now a big issue? It’s simply because a lot fans feel we no longer need him, if he was richer than Man City’s owners and pumping hundreds of millions into the club I guarantee the vast majority would turn a blind eye or not care.

 

[Worksop II]

Is that your trip to Fantasy Island?

I notice you didn't dispute it .................

 

[Silent Blade]

That's true wilder will be gone if prince wins.

Not easy for Danny04 to answer. Just concentrate on the rest of the season

 

[Superblades]

I always presumed royalty had their own staff. I’m almost certain that if our royalty visit anywhere then they would have their own staff, security and would be kept separate to the other boxes on security reasons. Let’s say Prince Harry / William etc paid a visit to the Lane; then I reckon the girl who posted the tweet would be told the same - you’re not to serve or go into that box today. It’s really a nothing story imo.

 

[Houston_Blade]

So I was a few boxes down from the prince and his chums yesterday. If he was at the lane to endear himself with us all he was badly advised. My experience was;

He turned up after his chums. His chums would not let me in the lift with them, with blades staff encouraging this behaviour.

The box that he was in had the door window blocked out

No female staff were allowed to be involved with the prince or his entourage, although they did had a young lady with them (who I presumed was related)

Sufc and security staff stood outside the box for the whole game

Security stood outside (pitch side) for the whole time he was present

None of the gang hung around to applaud the team after the win (stood up and walked out after the whistle Went)

So that was it, sooner he goes the better for us all if you ask me, not that I blame him. He stated from the beginning of this relationship, that he was in it with us to make cash!

I do believe both parties have buyers waiting in the wings post the court decision. Not sure who, or what this will mean to the blades and investment

At least he didn't start a post with 'So'.

 

[Bert]

I always presumed royalty had their own staff. I’m almost certain that if our royalty visit anywhere then they would have their own staff, security and would be kept separate to the other boxes on security reasons. Let’s say Prince Harry / William etc paid a visit to the Lane; then I reckon the girl who posted the tweet would be told the same - you’re not to serve or go into that box today. It’s really a nothing story imo.

There are between 12,000 and 15,000 Saudi prince's, he's a relative nobody.

 

[Superblades]

There are between 12,000 and 15,000 Saudi prince's, he's a relative nobody.

I’m sure he views himself like that.

 

[itsinyerblood]

The question that occurs is what did McCabe imagine he'd be getting when he agreed to co-ownership?

What was promised and not delivered? At some point it must have been clear that promises made were not being kept?

 

[Harrisblade]

The question that occurs is what did McCabe imagine he'd be getting when he agreed to co-ownership?

What was promised and not delivered? At some point it must have been clear that promises made were not being kept?

It's common in legal disputes - differentiating between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.
Not always easy

 

[John Snow]

The UK legitimise the Saudi culture every single day! Take BAE Systems for example, they are a British Company with massive contracts in Saudi, are you protesting for Women’s right at their headquarters?

I don’t remember anyone having an issue when the Prince became co-owner, yet we all knew about the Saudi culture.

Basically everyone turns a blind eye because of the sums of money involved with dealing with the Saudis. It shouldn’t be this way, but it’s unfortunately how it is. If you have an issue then take it to Westminster and not a football club!

I make my protest to Westminster by my choice of MP in a general election.
Like most issues this has ramifications very close to home and in this instance to an organisation that I have spent over 50 years supporting both in person and financially.
One of the things that makes me especially proud of my club is its inclusivity.
The prospect of any employee being treated differently on account of their gender in a country in which the law does not allow it I find deeply repugnant and if it proves to be as alleged I shall make my views known to those who can address the matter within the club.
Clearly you feel that it's fine for stone age attitudes to be allowed here. Just as well people didn't think like that in 1939.

 

[Bladeloyal]

There are between 12,000 and 15,000 Saudi prince's, he's a relative nobody.

Id say if you look at his family tree ,hes far from being a nobody

 

[Sean Thornton]

Id say if you look at his family tree ,hes far from being a nobody

I think Bert means in the big scheme of things in Saudi. His position may have given him a leg up but he's made his wealth generally through hard work at his company.

 

[itsinyerblood]

It's common in legal disputes - differentiating between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.
Not always easy

Done several agreements myself, so aware that what's originally agreed can change dependent on interpretation over time.

Would be interested to know if the original written commitment has radically changed, enabling McCabe to commit to a legal case.

 

[I should coco]

I think Bert means in the big scheme of things in Saudi. His position may have given him a leg up but he's made his wealth generally through hard work at his company.

Bit of brown nosing there Scott, with the 'hard work' guess.

Are you trying to wind daddy up since he cut your allowance after the stable boy 'incident'?

 

[Harrisblade]

Done several agreements myself, so aware that what's originally agreed can change dependent on interpretation over time.

Would be interested to know if the original written commitment has radically changed, enabling McCabe to commit to a legal case.

As I read it, most of the argument so far has been trivial 'point-scoring'
The nub still seems to be (to me) that HRH has obtained enough shares to force him to take up the original 'buy the whole lot at the valuation price' but whether his decanting a chunk of them off to a 3rd party releases him from the obligation stated in the original terms.
We will have to wait and see

 

[itsinyerblood]

As I read it, most of the argument so far has been trivial 'point-scoring'
The nub still seems to be (to me) that HRH has obtained enough shares to force him to take up the original 'buy the whole lot at the valuation price' but whether his decanting a chunk of them off to a 3rd party releases him from the obligation stated in the original terms.
We will have to wait and see

If your description is correct it should prove interesting to see how the court interprets these actions.

 

[YES Blade]

I make my protest to Westminster by my choice of MP in a general election.
Like most issues this has ramifications very close to home and in this instance to an organisation that I have spent over 50 years supporting both in person and financially.
One of the things that makes me especially proud of my club is its inclusivity.
The prospect of any employee being treated differently on account of their gender in a country in which the law does not allow it I find deeply repugnant and if it proves to be as alleged I shall make my views known to those who can address the matter within the club.
Clearly you feel that it's fine for stone age attitudes to be allowed here. Just as well people didn't think like that in 1939.

I assume you haven’t been to the lane since the Prince arrived I take it?

Where have I said it’s fine? It’s clearly not acceptable in this day and age no matter what culture, but I am also a realist.

If the Saudis don’t want a woman serving them, then what is it going to achieve by having a young lady serving them? It’s just likely to cause confrontation and it wouldn’t be right putting a young lady in that situation.

International pressure is the only way to change Saudi culture, not SUFC. However due to money, it’s unlikely any real pressure will be applied. Take the WWE as an example, they love to promote women in wrestling and equality, but that goes out the window when the Saudis offer a deal worth $450m and the women aren’t allowed to work!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Bit of brown nosing there Scott, with the 'hard work' guess.

Are you trying to wind daddy up since he cut your allowance after the stable boy 'incident'?

Just a backstop Si.

HRH says if Van Winkel gets back he's going to rip you a new one for what you wrote in Dempsey's toilets about him.

I told him you'd had plenty of new ones already.

 

[John Snow]

I assume you haven’t been to the lane since the Prince arrived I take it?

Where have I said it’s fine? It’s clearly not acceptable in this day and age no matter what culture, but I am also a realist.

If the Saudis don’t want a woman serving them, then what is it going to achieve by having a young lady serving them? It’s just likely to cause confrontation and it wouldn’t be right putting a young lady in that situation.

International pressure is the only way to change Saudi culture, not SUFC. However due to money, it’s unlikely any real pressure will be applied. Take the WWE as an example, they love to promote women in wrestling and equality, but that goes out the window when the Saudis offer a deal worth $450m and the women aren’t allowed to work!

I've missed a handful of games since he became involved

I completely understand what you are saying. I just don't agree with it. We both know that governments and massive multi billion corporate entities will fellate the Saudi, or any other disgraceful regime for money.
SUFC are neither of those things and should not tolerate behaviour that is both inappropriate and illegal. A supporter would be shown the door if he discriminated against another individual on grounds of gender, race etc and there are no exceptions to that.

 

[hidesbehindapseudonym]

I got the impression he’s not exactly flush with cash at the moment when I saw him in his raspberry beret.......the kind you’d buy from a second hand store.

How do you know? (About where to get raspberry berets)