Match Thread Pre season friendly - Chesterfield away

[Nick Jansky]

I don't agree that the new board demand promotion. They certainly want promotion but there has been no suggestion that they are demanding it this season. That's come from fans. The club have said that they want to change and modernise the club and that this may require patience. That suggests the opposite, that promotion may have to wait for the season after this one or beyond.

Agreed. We’re in transition as a club and looking to build something for the long term that can hopefully sustain us in the PL once we get there.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Agreed. We’re in transition as a club and looking to build something for the long term that can hopefully sustain us in the PL once we get there.

Kind of coming round to this position, but I do worry that once we stop demanding success, that becomes the narrative. Change is often necessary in all walks of life, and sometimes for reasons we will never know. It requires effective planning and well-managed, determined implementation. However, there needs to be a clear, time-limited outcome. I'm still concerned that if that isn't this season, then it may never come.
Looking forward to the season, but really hope we don't start accepting mediocrity in terms of results.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Kind of coming round to this position, but I do worry that once we stop demanding success, that becomes the narrative. Change is often necessary in all walks of life, and sometimes for reasons we will never know. It requires effective planning and well-managed, determined implementation. However, there needs to be a clear, time-limited outcome. I'm still concerned that if that isn't this season, then it may never come.
Looking forward to the season, but really hope we don't start accepting mediocrity in terms of results.

We should still demand success but it doesn’t have to be instant success. If we can see a clear direction of travel that’s ok with me.

 

[bakeblade]

Yes, but it was the big fat Saudi that sold him down the line. With the current owners it could have been something special. These are the new owners who agreed to spend 10 million on Cannon. Far too much negativity kicking around on here despite 4 out of 4 pre season.( Have a look at some of the other championship teams pre - season games and some have taken a pasting west brom etc/.
This is experiment time to gauge who is good enough and not good enough and which positions require new signings.
The new board want and demand promotion, Selles knows that, and also knows that he will be judged accordingly by his employers and fans alike !

If the new owners are demanding promotion, they'd better get the cheque book open

 

[Bell4]

it was a strange 1st half. We could’ve easily been 4–0 up. Barry, Caceres, Hamer, and Ukaki were fantastic, and for a while it looked far too easy. But somehow, we ended up clinging on in the final 10 minutes just to make sure we didn’t go in 3–2 down.

There were some really sloppy defensive decisions, and this season we might end up being a bit Kevin Keegan great going forward, but dodgy at the back. as When our passing clicked, we opened these teams up with ease. But when it didn’t, we were left wide open, as we saw with Chesterfield’s first goal.

I love Wilder. & yes, it’s only pre-season, but from what I’ve seen both in highlights & live I think the deeply unpopular decision might actually have been the right one. Wilder’s a fan at heart, & if the club is successful, you can be sure he’ll be just as pleased as the rest of us.

If we play like a Kevin Keegan team then we are in for the time of our lives

 

[Youngand70]

We should still demand success but it doesn’t have to be instant success. If we can see a clear direction of travel that’s ok with me.

I totally agree and I feel there is alot of work to be done throughout the club to achieve "modernisation" and the ultimate stated goal of being an established Premier League club, it is not going to be a quick fix. A couple of things bother me at the moment I believe it is a good time to have introduced a Director of Football, will it happen? Promoting Bettis to the board I do not believe will contribute to a clear direction of travel due to what I believe is his negativity i.e. anti Director of Football. For me I would be looking for an individual with experience at a higher level, who is more proactive, dynamic and with modern, fresh ideas.

 

[Silky Sabella]

I don't agree that the new board demand promotion. They certainly want promotion but there has been no suggestion that they are demanding it this season. That's come from fans. The club have said that they want to change and modernise the club and that this may require patience. That suggests the opposite, that promotion may have to wait for the season after this one or beyond.

If creating a future vision means patience which in turn will lead to success, I don't think any fan could object to that. When we do get promoted, we need to ensure the structure is in place to stay there.

 

[luffenhamblade]

If we play like a Kevin Keegan team then we are in for the time of our lives

And a regular cardiac arrest

 

[SB_90]

If we play like a Kevin Keegan team then we are in for the time of our lives

yeah i have a feeling based on yesterday we will be winning 4-3 more than we win 1-0

 

[Bell4]

And a regular cardiac arrest

At least we will feel alive

 

[ATL Recs]

Only my opinion, but some on here are still fuming about them showing Wilder the door, and with some I get the impression that there waiting for Selles to fall flat on his face! That's how sad some of the twats are.

Had a bunch of em sat behind me today ffs on about it whole game
I got the impression that they want our manager to fail big time,as they are convinced Wilder will be brought back

I didn't see today but I also know we cant write off players because of one game. He might have been terrible today, he isn't a terrible player. Last year, Burrows was clearly our number one left back. I don't expect that to change but mcCallum did OK in games last year.

And again, can Selles take players like McCallum and coach them and make them better.

mccallum has shown his limitation in all the pre seasons he’s not very good and I think he will struggle with the quick pass and pace due to his limited decision making abilities

 

[Shawy24]

it was a strange 1st half. We could’ve easily been 4–0 up. Barry, Caceres, Hamer, and Ukaki were fantastic, and for a while it looked far too easy. But somehow, we ended up clinging on in the final 10 minutes just to make sure we didn’t go in 3–2 down.

There were some really sloppy defensive decisions, and this season we might end up being a bit Kevin Keegan great going forward, but dodgy at the back. as When our passing clicked, we opened these teams up with ease. But when it didn’t, we were left wide open, as we saw with Chesterfield’s first goal.

I love Wilder. & yes, it’s only pre-season, but from what I’ve seen both in highlights & live I think the deeply unpopular decision might actually have been the right one. Wilder’s a fan at heart, & if the club is successful, you can be sure he’ll be just as pleased as the rest of us.

It wasn’t deeply unpopular with me. Although I confess I had a fear of the unknown and might have waited to see how he fared in the first 15 games. It’s interesting to note other people’s opinions but I personally can’t understand fans supporting the manager over and above the club.

With hindsight grasping the nettle and making the big call was the thing to do and so far it seems we’re transitioning from solid and unspectacular to fast furious unpredictability in the space of 3 months.

Going to be an interesting season.

 

[blackydog]

If we play like a Kevin Keegan team then we are in for the time of our lives

Kieffer Moore the new Faustino Asprilla...

 

[BladeByChoice]

Not read the thread yet so might have been mentioned but class from Fleck at the end applauding the whole Blades side of the ground.

 

[Jon Bon II]

At least we will feel alive

Blades fans every Saturday night this season be like...

 

[blackydog]

In case anyone missed it, we took 3000 to Chesterfield...

 

[Andy67]

It wasn’t deeply unpopular with me. Although I confess I had a fear of the unknown and might have waited to see how he fared in the first 15 games. It’s interesting to note other people’s opinions but I personally can’t understand fans supporting the manager over and above the club.

With hindsight grasping the nettle and making the big call was the thing to do and so far it seems we’re transitioning from solid and unspectacular to fast furious unpredictability in the space of 3 months.

Going to be an interesting season.

Every manager appointed knows that they’ll be sacked within 2 possibly 3 seasons, Selles is not blind to this ‘iron law’ of football management and he’s probably mapped out what he’d expect to achieve with this group of players and signings that he wants to make. I think he’ll regard top 6 an acceptable first year (two windows) but by his third and fourth in the second year if he is no closer he’ll be gone. I want him to be successful that doesn’t stop me from thinking we would have been just as successful under Wilder this year. I hope the board have made a cracking appointment but they really need to back him so that he can spend his 3 year stint doing the job to the best of his ability.

 

[FriethBlade]

I don't agree that the new board demand promotion. They certainly want promotion but there has been no suggestion that they are demanding it this season. That's come from fans. The club have said that they want to change and modernise the club and that this may require patience. That suggests the opposite, that promotion may have to wait for the season after this one or beyond.

Tony that would make perfect sense in a 'sane world'....modernise and build patiently works in most areas...but probably not in the one where you lose 40m in revenue the following year if you dont go up.

We've already sold Souza and nobody will be surprised if one of (or maybe two) Hamer, Cooper, Peck or Anel also leave this summer. If we dont go up this season you can then start adding Burrows, Campbell, One, Blaster to the list

I dont know what the answer is but I do feel it's going to be a hell of a lot harder as each year goes on and our revenue drops and more parachute payments rich clubs come down.

 

[Bladeloyal]

The answer is to load the academy with talent which we are doing

 

[luffenhamblade]

Every manager appointed knows that they’ll be sacked within 2 possibly 3 seasons, Selles is not blind to this ‘iron law’ of football management and he’s probably mapped out what he’d expect to achieve with this group of players and signings that he wants to make. I think he’ll regard top 6 an acceptable first year (two windows) but by his third and fourth in the second year if he is no closer he’ll be gone. I want him to be successful that doesn’t stop me from thinking we would have been just as successful under Wilder this year. I hope the board have made a cracking appointment but they really need to back him so that he can spend his 3 year stint doing the job to the best of his abili

The answer is to load the academy with talent which we are doing

It’s a good idea but not “the answer” alone

 

[KeyffSmyff]

Tony that would make perfect sense in a 'sane world'....modernise and build patiently works in most areas...but probably not in the one where you lose 40m in revenue the following year if you dont go up.

We've already sold Souza and nobody will be surprised if one of (or maybe two) Hamer, Cooper, Peck or Anel also leave this summer. If we dont go up this season you can then start adding Burrows, Campbell, One, Blaster to the list

I dont know what the answer is but I do feel it's going to be a hell of a lot harder as each year goes on and our revenue drops and more parachute payments rich clubs come down.

It will be much harder as wolves, Everton etal keep receiving EPL money by just keeping out of the zone whilst we only have it sporadically

 

[MiserableBlader]

Tony that would make perfect sense in a 'sane world'....modernise and build patiently works in most areas...but probably not in the one where you lose 40m in revenue the following year if you dont go up.

We've already sold Souza and nobody will be surprised if one of (or maybe two) Hamer, Cooper, Peck or Anel also leave this summer. If we dont go up this season you can then start adding Burrows, Campbell, One, Blaster to the list

I dont know what the answer is but I do feel it's going to be a hell of a lot harder as each year goes on and our revenue drops and more parachute payments rich clubs come down.

FFS there IS sanity on this website.
For the last God knows how many years - all this century? - we have been told (by the wendy press admittedly and scum like McCabe) - that we have to immediately 'sell' every good player we get (automatically) because 'we cannot compete with the money in the premier league'.
How the **** do you build when you have to lose all your best players every season? (For peanuts)
It is Orwellian doublethink to 'think' otherwise.
We have a right to demand the same as last season.
A team that should get promotion with a good manager.
We have a massive financial advantage (one of only 4 teams when three go up)
AIDED and ensured by PSR.
The only point I would disagree with is Souza was not sold.
He was rushed out the door at half his value as if 'we' were desperate for cash.
That is a very worrying sign about the owners intentions.
And if you do not understand that let me indicate in the simplest of terms.
£10 million annual 'income' on an £100 million 'investment' is an excellent return
There is ZERO indication that they will be good for genuine (ie ambitious) fans rather than their pockets.
It just looks like they were desperate to immediately recoup the money they put up for Cannon when they were assured it would ensure promotion and send profits and ROI to an even higher level.

 

[Shawy24]

FFS there IS sanity on this website.
For the last God knows how many years - all this century? - we have been told (by the wendy press admittedly and scum like McCabe) - that we have to immediately 'sell' every good player we get (automatically) because 'we cannot compete with the money in the premier league'.
How the **** do you build when you have to lose all your best players every season? (For peanuts)
It is Orwellian doublethink to 'think' otherwise.
We have a right to demand the same as last season.
A team that should get promotion with a good manager.
We have a massive financial advantage (one of only 4 teams when three go up)
AIDED and ensured by PSR.
The only point I would disagree with is Souza was not sold.
He was rushed out the door at half his value as if 'we' were desperate for cash.
That is a very worrying sign about the owners intentions.
And if you do not understand that let me indicate in the simplest of terms.
£10 million annual 'income' on an £100 million 'investment' is an excellent return
There is ZERO indication that they will be good for genuine (ie ambitious) fans rather than their pockets.
It just looks like they were desperate to immediately recoup the money they put up for Cannon when they were assured it would ensure promotion and send profits and ROI to an even higher level.

Thank you for your contribution.

 

[I should coco]

In case anyone missed it, we took 3000 to Chesterfield...

It's not QPR though, is it?

Bigger, Better, Rustier, Broker etc etc etc

 

[Bl4desutd]

FFS there IS sanity on this website.
For the last God knows how many years - all this century? - we have been told (by the wendy press admittedly and scum like McCabe) - that we have to immediately 'sell' every good player we get (automatically) because 'we cannot compete with the money in the premier league'.
How the **** do you build when you have to lose all your best players every season? (For peanuts)
It is Orwellian doublethink to 'think' otherwise.
We have a right to demand the same as last season.
A team that should get promotion with a good manager.
We have a massive financial advantage (one of only 4 teams when three go up)
AIDED and ensured by PSR.
The only point I would disagree with is Souza was not sold.
He was rushed out the door at half his value as if 'we' were desperate for cash.
That is a very worrying sign about the owners intentions.
And if you do not understand that let me indicate in the simplest of terms.
£10 million annual 'income' on an £100 million 'investment' is an excellent return
There is ZERO indication that they will be good for genuine (ie ambitious) fans rather than their pockets.
It just looks like they were desperate to immediately recoup the money they put up for Cannon when they were assured it would ensure promotion and send profits and ROI to an

FFS there IS sanity on this website.
For the last God knows how many years - all this century? - we have been told (by the wendy press admittedly and scum like McCabe) - that we have to immediately 'sell' every good player we get (automatically) because 'we cannot compete with the money in the premier league'.
How the **** do you build when you have to lose all your best players every season? (For peanuts)
It is Orwellian doublethink to 'think' otherwise.
We have a right to demand the same as last season.
A team that should get promotion with a good manager.
We have a massive financial advantage (one of only 4 teams when three go up)
AIDED and ensured by PSR.
The only point I would disagree with is Souza was not sold.
He was rushed out the door at half his value as if 'we' were desperate for cash.
That is a very worrying sign about the owners intentions.
And if you do not understand that let me indicate in the simplest of terms.
£10 million annual 'income' on an £100 million 'investment' is an excellent return
There is ZERO indication that they will be good for genuine (ie ambitious) fans rather than their pockets.
It just looks like they were desperate to immediately recoup the money they put up for Cannon when they were assured it would ensure promotion and send profits and ROI to an even higher level.

You miserable old bastard……I mean blader