Play-off semi v Bristol City

[Silent Blade]

Surprising that apart from Colin Morris goal I can’t find any highlights from the 1988 play off game at the Lane.

Even if it’s just to see if Paul Williams miss was as bad as it is in my head!

Second leg from 42 mins 50 secs, but not including the miss from Paul Williams

 

[Champagneblade]

The fact we even had to play with a 22 point difference and start at parity seems unfair.

I like how it was in Italy when, if you weren’t close enough, then it’s just the top 3.

Maybe if you start a goal down for every 10 points or have to play barefoot.

3rd should be in the final already, you could argue.

But each team knows the rules from the outset so it is what it is.

You could reasonably argue that the team finishing 22 points ahead are far stronger and being able to prove that over 2 games should allow enough of an opportunity for the quality to shine through.

That doesn’t apply in the final thigh where a lucky swing into the corner and some backs to the wall defending can upset the apple cart and have the lesser team through.

Both games were tricky in the league. Hopefully Wilder has given it some thought. He is very determined to shut people up, so let’s see him hopefully revel in it.

Bristol City have done well to get this far on their budget.

 

[Silent Blade]

The fact we even had to play with a 22 point difference and start at parity seems unfair.

I like how it was in Italy when, if you weren’t close enough, then it’s just the top 3.

Wasnt aware of this so I looked up. If the points gap between 3rd and 4th is more than 9 then the 3rd placed team go up automatically!

 

[Silent Blade]

Wasnt aware of this so I looked up. If the points gap between 3rd and 4th is more than 9 then the 3rd placed team go up automatically!

Happened in the 2006-07 season, no play-offs because of the 10 points gap between 3rd and 4th, am now checking the other seasons

2006–07 Serie B - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[utd4ever]

don’t tell anyone I told you this but tell your players to just go for it when attacking. Overload. Don’t worry about a quick counter attack. If we get the ball back we just pass it around until you are back in shape.

Don’t worry about our attacking play. It’s the same passage of play. We move it around until the balls played to the wing where we cross it in. No one’s there to attack the ball so just wait for that cross, head it away and go on the overload.

If you score 1 great. If you score 2 your through to the final.

 

[100% part time blade]

Leeds’ comical collapse at the end of last season (which we all laughed at the time) is, in my view, one of the reasons we’ve not been promoted this year. The top three were clearly the best sides in 23/24 even though Leeds fell back to just a 3 point gap above 4th place after their awful end to the season. They’ve then carried on spending big money (their payments on agents’ fees in the last two transfer windows has been in line with the top half of the premier league and 10x the championship average).
So we’ve been up against two top quality sides this year instead of one, trying to get 103 points; I don’t think Southampton would have been as impressive. 90 points (even with the -2) is often enough to get promoted, but was a long way off this year.

Now that the gap to the premier league is so wide, the play-offs seems to add another small advantage to the sides from the top division, as the 3rd team going up to face them may not even be one of the top 4 or 5 sides in the championship. Just another small thing slightly weighted in favour of maintaining the status quo.

This season has been a carbon copy of last year’s championship in some ways, with us playing the exact role that Leeds played. Of course, if we slip up in the play-offs, like Leeds last year, we should be looking to emulate their performance in the following season - but the challenge might then be whether we could spend like they have. On top of this it seems extremely unlikely any of Ipswich, Southampton or Leicester will ‘do a Luton’. So the job next year could well be harder, and if we’re not in a position to outspend people next year, then this play off campaign becomes extremely important to the club’s future success.

 

[Thrice]

Happened in the 2006-07 season, no play-offs because of the 10 points gap between 3rd and 4th, am now checking the other seasons

2006–07 Serie B - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wasn't aware of that either. That's actually a great rule.

I doubt the EFL would consider it though because of TV money and all that.

 

[Luke1993]

Leeds’ comical collapse at the end of last season (which we all laughed at the time) is, in my view, one of the reasons we’ve not been promoted this year. The top three were clearly the best sides in 23/24 even though Leeds fell back to just a 3 point gap above 4th place after their awful end to the season. They’ve then carried on spending big money (their payments on agents’ fees in the last two transfer windows has been in line with the top half of the premier league and 10x the championship average).
So we’ve been up against two top quality sides this year instead of one, trying to get 103 points; I don’t think Southampton would have been as impressive. 90 points (even with the -2) is often enough to get promoted, but was a long way off this year.

Now that the gap to the premier league is so wide, the play-offs seems to add another small advantage to the sides from the top division, as the 3rd team going up to face them may not even be one of the top 4 or 5 sides in the championship. Just another small thing slightly weighted in favour of maintaining the status quo.

This season has been a carbon copy of last year’s championship in some ways, with us playing the exact role that Leeds played. Of course, if we slip up in the play-offs, like Leeds last year, we should be looking to emulate their performance in the following season - but the challenge might then be whether we could spend like they have. On top of this it seems extremely unlikely any of Ipswich, Southampton or Leicester will ‘do a Luton’. So the job next year could well be harder, and if we’re not in a position to outspend people next year, then this play off campaign becomes extremely important to the club’s future success.

Plus Birmingham coming up and probably going to be spending big. Wrexham to a lesser extent but still expect them 2 to be better than the 3 that came up last season means the league will be a more difficult league next season.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Surprising that apart from Colin Morris goal I can’t find any highlights from the 1988 play off game at the Lane.

Even if it’s just to see if Paul Williams miss was as bad as it is in my head!

After that match Sheffield United banned footage of that miss and unfortunately it has been consigned to the dustbin of history.

Imagine having Richard Cadette and Paul Williams as a "strike force"

As I remember that miss it was an open goal 2 yards out?

 

[North Riding Blade]

don’t tell anyone I told you this but tell your players to just go for it when attacking. Overload. Don’t worry about a quick counter attack. If we get the ball back we just pass it around until you are back in shape.

Don’t worry about our attacking play. It’s the same passage of play. We move it around until the balls played to the wing where we cross it in. No one’s there to attack the ball so just wait for that cross, head it away and go on the overload.

If you score 1 great. If you score 2 your through to the final.

You really are a nob. Off you go to ignore with the rest of 'em.

 

[FTPE]

I reckon we'll go one up top away, COH pressing the crap out of your back line and earn minimum a draw.
Then I think the home leg will be nervy, especially if we concede first, but I think we'll win still.

 

[Davalon]

Can't decide if it's bad because City owe us one after a few lucky results against them recently, or if it's fate that our first play off failure wil be bookended by them.

 

[100% part time blade]

Just been looking at the National League playoff system. If I’ve read it right … 6 teams involved. 3rd play 6th and 4th play 5th (at highest place’s home ground I think): winners get a chance to play either top play off team or 2nd - at their ground, for a chance to go to Wembley. Winner of Wembley final goes up.

I think it’s probably a bit fairer than the 4 team system in the championship.