Oyston out

[SwissBlade]

Man City were the first club to play at Upton Park the season after we went down.
Their fans were chanting
"We should be at Bramall Lane. ."

ISC

Great to hear! I like city fans and would support them if they were in a situation like Blackpool or our own

 

[itsinyerblood]

We used to be so much better than this. Now it's "I'm ok so fuck everyone else". That attitude makes my piss fizz.

Sign of the times unfortunately.

I'd tend to agree with that TD. It's as if we're either incapable or unwilling to show any solidarity. The reasons I've read for this unwillingness extend from the fact that this or that club never sided with us over the Tevez affair to why should we help them? I suppose you can adopt whatever stance you choose in life, and yes, we can't help everyone, but there again this type of situation doesn't come around that often.

Seriously, what harm would it do to help B'pool in some small way? Injure your vanity perhaps, would your ego feel offended, or would your sense of 'fuck 'em' have come to life, so let them drown? Even if it was a simple show of support, a round of applause, or something similar, would it really harm?

I guess in some cases the answer to the above is yes, but I cannot see why it would harm to show that the bastard who owns the club shouldn't behave the way he does. As other posters have written, Oyston has a complex of North Korea proportions, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that he wants no dialogue with the supporters. Maybe he's holding onto the club with a long-term view, to sell the ground to a supermarket for a healthy profit perhaps, but whatever his motives, his behaviour since taking control of Blackpool has been dismal.

 

[SwissBlade]

It's your view Swiss and of course you are entitled to it but it suprises me. Yes of course we should put the fortunes of Sheffield United above others and the tribal nature of football we all love means there will be schadenfraude to our rivals.

But to say the only thing we have in common is football is wrong, we have that passion and love of our clubs too, even if they are different, which should then allow us to empathise.

It maybe a weak bond but, as an example, since I moved away from Sheffield some of my strongest friendships have been formed in my neighbourhood and workplace through a mutual love of football, not in spite of it. In fact if I talk to someone and they don't like football or cricket I will honestly struggle to get on with them as that's about 80 percent of my conversations they are ruled out of.

So yeah, I think we share more than just footie, we share that passion, that solidarity and that commitment to something we love that has been with many of us for generation after generation. So when they get right royally shafted, unfairly treated, banned from the ground for questioning the board, having only 7 senior players a week before the beginning of a season and people that have gone to see them for 40 years non stop are not able to watch their club anymore I think they deserve a little bit more sympathy than 'fuck em, they are not us'.

But I'm not talking of all football in this case and yes I talk football with other fans too, but that's not the point.

Blackpool fans don't have themselves to blame of course but they are hugely hypocritical. Support the club in the top division, desert them when things go to ratshit.

Sheff United fans have backed our great club regardless of the owners in the last few years. We've been sold lies and false promises even with the current ownership.

We're very different to Blackpool, were different to many clubs, similar to others. Some clubs I like, others I think fuck em, let em rot.

 

[JohnDenver]

We need a system like the Germans to develop our youth, improve the national squad and help fans afford to go to games

Yet....

Feck em, I only care about one team and the more difficulties our competitors have the better for our chances. We've worked through our issues, how many club chanted about cheating spammers when we got relegated instead of them and they ain't looked back so again.....

Feck em!

And...

Feck em anyway, only interest I have in Blackpool is the three points

Massive cognitive dissonance.

 

[Tyler Durden]

I'd tend to agree with that TD. It's as if we're either incapable or unwilling to show any solidarity. The reasons I've read for this unwillingness extend from the fact that this or that club never sided with us over the Tevez affair to why should we help them? I suppose you can adopt whatever stance you choose in life, and yes, we can't help everyone, but there again this type of situation doesn't come around that often.

Seriously, what harm would it do to help B'pool in some small way? Injure your vanity perhaps, would your ego feel offended, or would your sense of 'fuck 'em' have come to life, so let them drown? Even if it was a simple show of support, a round of applause, or something similar, would it really harm?

I guess in some cases the answer to the above is yes, but I cannot see why it would harm to show that the bastard who owns the club shouldn't behave the way he does. As other posters have written, Oyston has a complex of North Korea proportions, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that he wants no dialogue with the supporters. Maybe he's holding onto the club with a long-term view, to sell the ground to a supermarket for a healthy profit perhaps, but whatever his motives, his behaviour since taking control of Blackpool has been dismal.

Very well put.

The trouble with football being a competetive game is that some people think we have to be mutually hostile all the time.

But in this day and age, with modern football being what it is, there ARE things which supporters have in common and should rally around together. If we don't show unity against the arseholes who run the game then we end up getting picked off one by one. Nobody should ever assume that their club isn't one Oyston away from disaster.

I don't really give a toss about Blackpool themselves, but as supporters who love their club every bit as much as we love ours, they have my full backing on this.

 

[alcoblade]

But I'm not talking of all football in this case and yes I talk football with other fans too, but that's not the point.

Blackpool fans don't have themselves to blame of course but they are hugely hypocritical. Support the club in the top division, desert them when things go to ratshit.

Sheff United fans have backed our great club regardless of the owners in the last few years. We've been sold lies and false promises even with the current ownership.

We're very different to Blackpool, were different to many clubs, similar to others. Some clubs I like, others I think fuck em, let em rot.

What about the 5,000 fans who still back them? What about the 500 that turn up today?

I have little time for the Jonny come latelys and lots of time for the core support who's stuck with them.

UTB

 

[Bladepicker]

But I'm not talking of all football in this case and yes I talk football with other fans too, but that's not the point.

Blackpool fans don't have themselves to blame of course but they are hugely hypocritical. Support the club in the top division, desert them when things go to ratshit.

Sheff United fans have backed our great club regardless of the owners in the last few years. We've been sold lies and false promises even with the current ownership.

We're very different to Blackpool, were different to many clubs, similar to others. Some clubs I like, others I think fuck em, let em rot.

Despite our decline which has been drastic we have never had anything near the issues that Blackpool and their fans have had to endure. And our crowds, while unbelievable, have probably dropped a similar percentage since we were in the Prem.

Bkackpool fans who are boycotting are putting lots of their own time and effort into trying to remove the owners and buy their club simply for the future of their football club. They are not rats deserting a sinking ship, they are quite the opposite. More than one way to support a football club.

Personally I feel sorry for them and wish them all the best.

 

[Jonboy60]

I agree we should support each other but for me personally chanting Oyston Out is not the way to do it.

Perhaps, genuinely, continuing to publicise his rape conviction and subsequent behaviour might help.

Give Jean a call, she'll sort it.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Very well put.

The trouble with football being a competetive game is that some people think we have to be mutually hostile all the time.

But in this day and age, with modern football being what it is, there ARE things which supporters have in common and should rally around together. If we don't show unity against the arseholes who run the game then we end up getting picked off one by one. Nobody should ever assume that their club isn't one Oyston away from disaster.

I don't really give a toss about Blackpool themselves, but as supporters who love their club every bit as much as we love ours, they have my full backing on this.

There's also the question of diminishing returns. Of course if Blackpool went out of existence another club would take their place - the Football League would arrange for a Div 2 club to join Div 1, or something to that effect. What I do find worrying is that the lack of interest, let alone concern, will have ramifications that make it easy for the likes of Royston to control this situation how he pleases. The argument that the B'pool fans followed their team in the Prem but are now abandoning them as they fall like a lead weight doesn't add up. In the Prem their fortunes were different, but since then Oyston has under invested which has lead to this parlous state. He's also acted in an attritional manner, far more so than any other chairman I can recall.

We've had awful chairmen, some real pricks who we're well rid of, but never have we come close to a situation like this. The best way to approach this is to have an ongoing focus on Oyston's business affairs, so that whatever he's involved in outside of football is included in the PR campaign against him. That's the only way to damage his approach, not dissimilar to the Evan's affair not too long ago at SUFC. Make life uncomfortable via sponsors and advertisers and he'll soon realise that attrition only works up to a point. What it also highlights is the lack of real power that all fans have at the club's they love. Yes, without fans they're in trouble, but how many fans will actually boycott their club, even in times of trouble? We're incredibly fortunate, we seem to have a fanbase that will return game after game, but for how long I'm unsure. Returning to Oyston and B'pool, what harm can it do to sign a petition or show support in some form or other? Unless of course this offends some kind of sensibility that gets satisfaction from being isolationist.

 

[judge]

We used to be so much better than this. Now it's "I'm ok so fuck everyone else". That attitude makes my piss fizz.

Sign of the times unfortunately.

It is isnt it , as the last election showed

 

[grafikhaus]

Charlton, Fulham, Liverpool, Middlesboro and Wigan (in alphabetical order) to some degree or other.

Fuck the rest of em

Hmm. And there's me remembering that Liverpool rested 9 players on 6th May, 2007 when they played at Fulham (who finished just one point ahead of us):

'The fact that Fulham defeated a Liverpool team showing nine changes from the side that had reached the Champions League final by beating Chelsea on penalties has intensified questions about the ethics of managers leaving out regular players at such a sensitive stage of the season. The Football League used to fine clubs for fielding weakened teams, usually when they were approaching FA Cup finals, but the Champions League puts extra demands on players and the leading sides build their squads with a view to resting tired legs when necessary.' Link

 

[Maidenhead]

Hmm. And there's me remembering that Liverpool rested 9 players on 6th May, 2007 when they played at Fulham (who finished just one point ahead of us):

'The fact that Fulham defeated a Liverpool team showing nine changes from the side that had reached the Champions League final by beating Chelsea on penalties has intensified questions about the ethics of managers leaving out regular players at such a sensitive stage of the season. The Football League used to fine clubs for fielding weakened teams, usually when they were approaching FA Cup finals, but the Champions League puts extra demands on players and the leading sides build their squads with a view to resting tired legs when necessary.' Link

Liverpool's chief executive (whose name I forget) provided us with documentation and gave evidence on our behalf based on their similar arrangement with Mascherano that they were quick to anul.

Without their assistance we could possibly be £20m+ poorer today than we already are.

As much as I don't like their fans we have £20m reasons to be grateful to the club

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

i look like a twat most times

There's a specially dedicated thread y'know..

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

My experience with the Oyston family is not good. I was looking for work and started with a company only to leave a week or two later when a couple of people who joined with me got in touch regarding certain practices they were unhappy with. I resigned and a month later the Fraud Squad came knocking at my door asking questions about the operation.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

If I was a Huddersfield fan that day I'd have been more than happy to see a game that meant nothing abandoned. Credit to Blackpool fans for actually trying to remove an owner that is quite clearly taking the piss out of them.

I hope he doesn't try and take me to court now I've said that.

I will spare a thought for the Huddersfield fans who have not received a penny back after their game with them was abandoned on the last day of last season. Solidarity and all that.

There were a lot on here who under Clough would have been very happy to have missed some second halves last season, even more who would have been delighted to have missed the first half.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Oh what noise annoys an Oyston,
Oh tell me, tell me do...

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Hmm. And there's me remembering that Liverpool rested 9 players on 6th May, 2007 when they played at Fulham (who finished just one point ahead of us):

'The fact that Fulham defeated a Liverpool team showing nine changes from the side that had reached the Champions League final by beating Chelsea on penalties has intensified questions about the ethics of managers leaving out regular players at such a sensitive stage of the season. The Football League used to fine clubs for fielding weakened teams, usually when they were approaching FA Cup finals, but the Champions League puts extra demands on players and the leading sides build their squads with a view to resting tired legs when necessary.' Link

I'm in different to the weakened team argument.

If your squad of 24+ players, each on a minimum of £25K/week can't perform when picked reflects more on the tit who chose to pay them that sort of dosh when they can't fill in when required.
I know some players are better than others but they are your first eleven, the back ups should be up to the league level your playing at, otherwise as stated your a tit for paying 'em that much.

 

[SwissBlade]

Ha ha well the Oysten out chants weren't perhaps what Blackpool hoped. Good to see the blades didn't support this chant and there were perhaps 50 that made a half hearted attempt to start it on 90 mins

 

[Mustela Putorius Furo]

Ha ha well the Oysten out chants weren't perhaps what Blackpool hoped. Good to see the blades didn't support this chant and there were perhaps 50 that made a half hearted attempt to start it on 90 mins

The "Sheep-shagger" chants aimed at us didn't do a great deal to endear us to them and draw us to their cause.

We get this a lot from Lancashire/Merseyside clubs who think their journey across the open spaces on the M62 in West Yorkshire says something about their South Yorkshire destination: the most delapidated and roughest industrial and urban landscape in Britain. They must have their eyes shut by the time the get into Sheffield.

Like most from this region, I don't find it offensive, just bewildering. And it shows up Lancastrians as pig-ignorant, insular, small-town, rarely-travelled retards.

"Oyston in", I say!

 

[Rodders]

The "Sheep-shagger" chants aimed at us didn't do a great deal to endear us to them and draw us to their cause.

We get this a lot from Lancashire/Merseyside clubs who think their journey across the open spaces on the M62 in West Yorkshire says something about their South Yorkshire destination: the most delapidated and roughest industrial and urban landscape in Britain. They must have their eyes shut by the time the get into Sheffield.

Like most from this region, I don't find it offensive, just bewildering. And it shows up Lancastrians as pig-ignorant, insular, small-town, rarely-travelled retards.

"Oyston in", I say!

You are aware their nickname is "Seasiders" you dribbler?

 

[jt64]

Think I heard some people try at the back of the Kop in injury time. More than their fans did, the only thing I heard from them was your support is fucking shit near the end of the first half. They had a point

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

More than their fans did, the only thing I heard from them was your support is fucking shit near the end of the first half. They had a point

Only if there point was to demonstrate the epitome of irony.

 

[Elsecar_Blade]

I'd suggest that their insults towards our support on several occasions - added to the fact United were struggling to break them down at the time - meant a lack of goodwill towards them on 53 minutes. More SUFC fans chanted it at 90 minutes when the game was won - and therein lies the biggest issue for Blackpool in trying to organise support from elsewhere in this way. During the 90 minutes, I only care about my team getting three points, nothing more or less. It doesn't change my sympathy towards their supporters who are suffering but today, IMO, United had to show no mercy and go for the jugular (which we did, in the end!) regardless of who they were.

If they want support from opposition fans, they should organise it before and/or after the game. Maybe ask opposition fans to join their protests before games rather than asking them to boycott? When we play Blackpool on January 9th, if we're doing well I would imagine we will take 3-4000 fans easily, maybe more if we're going like a train, and asking Blades fans to boycott a big game is not going to work. I think a lot of Blades would support their protests but not at the expense of supporting United.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Only if there point was to demonstrate the epitome of irony.

Wrong there, whoops.

 

[shorehamview]

I feel sorry for the Blackpool fans. Will I sing a song for them during the match? No, I fucking won't. I'm there to support Sheffield United. I'm not there to support anyone else.

 

[jt64]

I'd suggest that their insults towards our support on several occasions - added to the fact United were struggling to break them down at the time - meant a lack of goodwill towards them on 53 minutes.

It's a case of two things - firstly, they were right, I missed the first two minutes of the game so missed the GCB by default, and I don't recall a single chant by us for the remainder of the half. Our support was fucking shit today. Secondly, how widely was this publicised? I'm going to guess not particularly at all. The most effective thing to get something like that to work would be to ask us (via here, other fora, the SLO, whatever) to put up a simple sign at each of the entrances to the Kop saying "53 minutes - Oyston Out". I think the majority of fans of any club would be supportive to this sort of thing if they know about it.

 

[boo radley]

Ha ha well the Oysten out chants weren't perhaps what Blackpool hoped. Good to see the blades didn't support this chant and there were perhaps 50 that made a half hearted attempt to start it on 90 mins

Do you think they'd have bothered if we weren't winning 2-0?

 

[BeatleBlade]

Agree. The only difference between Blackpool and Burnley is that they both earned a fortune in their one-and-only season in the PL, went down without a fight and spent fuck all on their dilapidated grounds. Oyston bragged about it, Burnley kept quiet.



Thought that was Wednesday?

No, there's nothing wrong with the fact that Blackpool and Burnley didn't invest in the Prem. The problem is is that the Oyston's took all the money for themselves afterwards and reinvested none of it in the club. Burnley didn't spend much on players last year (mistake) but they invested in the training ground and they are making improvements to Turf Moor. Also, if you look at their transfer activity this season it is very different to that of Blackpool after they were relegated. Burnley have quite a sensible approach in comparison to many other teams who gambled on staying in the Premier League and will be better off because of it in comparison to many recently relegated clubs.

 

[diplomat]

I will spare a thought for the Huddersfield fans who have not received a penny back after their game with them was abandoned on the last day of last season. Solidarity and all that.

But do you expect the Blackpool fans or the board that they are protesting about to refund that?

 

[diplomat]

Liverpool's chief executive (whose name I forget) provided us with documentation and gave evidence on our behalf based on their similar arrangement with Mascherano that they were quick to anul.

Without their assistance we could possibly be £20m+ poorer today than we already are.

As much as I don't like their fans we have £20m reasons to be grateful to the club

It was Liverpool that raised the flag on that issue to be fair. However, I wouldn't say that was because they wanted to help us. I'm sure it's been done to death but Tevez then moving to man u for a token fee was sick. Then when offered him again the proper fee for him was due to his agent, not any club, so he was still effectively third party owned until he moved to city as far as I can see. But I digress.