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Champagneblade said:
Tend to like them as players but that’s two added to your XI that don’t score many.

Puts the pressure on others.
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I wouldn't necessarily have them in the first 11 for each game - it'd be Choudhury or Norwood for me, depending on the opposition and whether we're home or away.
Re. Davis, we saw against Forest how he attracts opposition players and creates spaces for others to capitalise on. Also, he got 1 in 3 for them last season and I'd expect him to improve on that if he can stay fit (I'd love Brewster or McBurnie to have a 1 in 3 record for us!)
 

Swannyblade said:
I wouldn't necessarily have them in the first 11 for each game - it'd be Choudhury or Norwood for me, depending on the opposition and whether we're home or away.
Re. Davis, we saw against Forest how he attracts opposition players and creates spaces for others to capitalise on. Also, he got 1 in 3 for them last season and I'd expect him to improve on that if he can stay fit (I'd love Brewster or McBurnie to have a 1 in 3 record for us!)
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They'd both be in my starting 11.
 
Watford’s season very much determined by the next few days.

In the past week it looked like Sarr was off to Villa and Joao Pedro to Newcastle.

The former fell through over personal terms and for the latter, Newcastle are signing Isak instead.

It has certainly been disruptive for them but now they could emerge relatively intact with 5 days to go or have their entire attack decimated.

Obviously we’d prefer weaker rivals but it does also raise the concern about when the window should close. From a planning perspective then also an integrity one.

Appreciate it is the same for all teams (timing of the window closing) but we face Sarr, Dennis, Joao Pedro, Norwich face say Menaj, Davis and Bayo. I know which 3 I’d rather face.

Hause and Chaudhry are also decent signings for the level.

League still very much taking shape.
 
Champagneblade said:
West Brom signed a few but all back end of their 20s.
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It's interesting that you see signing players in their late 20s as a negative in some way. I'd suggest that is the ideal age if you can afford them. Lots of players in their early 20s flatter to decide and get better as they get older.

Our last promotion team had the following players on the pitch most weeks

Bashan 30
Stevens 28
Norwood 27
Fleck 27
Duffy 32
Sharp 32
Mcgoldrick 30
 
Probably goes against what the op wanted, but I think our recruitment has been much better than many could have hoped for.
Anel is obviously a top player. The 2 Man City youngsters promise so much. Khadra could be a Blades player if his loan season goes well.
Clark is probably not the PL standard star we would wish for, but a very good, experienced player at this level. He gives JLT and RND decent competition.

We could get by at WB if Bogle and Lowe come good. It does leave us with a few gaps to fill if we go up, but I reckon this represents a cracking good start, compared to what other teams have done.

The big difference for me could be the way PH uses all that potential.
 
blade67 said:
It's interesting that you see signing players in their late 20s as a negative in some way. I'd suggest that is the ideal age if you can afford them. Lots of players in their early 20s flatter to decide and get better as they get older.

Our last promotion team had the following players on the pitch most weeks

Bashan 30
Stevens 28
Norwood 27
Fleck 27
Duffy 32
Sharp 32
Mcgoldrick 30
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Through my time on here... according to this forum anyone in their 30's is old and not worth signing anyway. Even though our best striker is 37 year old Billy Sharp.
 
blade67 said:
It's interesting that you see signing players in their late 20s as a negative in some way. I'd suggest that is the ideal age if you can afford them. Lots of players in their early 20s flatter to decide and get better as they get older.

Our last promotion team had the following players on the pitch most weeks

Bashan 30
Stevens 28
Norwood 27
Fleck 27
Duffy 32
Sharp 32
Mcgoldrick 30
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Someone did a very detailed analysis on the make up of promoted teams, before we went up and, if I recall correctly, showed we met that criteria and had a good chance of going up. I think, as part of his analysis he’d identified an average age of around 26-28 with a decent proportion of senior players. Can’t remember the name of the poster or I’d search for it.
 
WORKSOPBLADE said:
Manager signing possibly… v strange on . All about the 💴

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Stoke ITK yesterday said they'd already spoken with 3 managers who were with other Clubs Neil was one the other 2 were Robins and CW who apparently wasn't happy with what was happening at Boro. O'Neill had complete control of all football matters at Stoke suspect that would have been the attraction for CW if true.

Alex Neill easier to prise away from Sunderland, its in his contract to speak to other clubs, his contract is a rolling 12 months one and he wasn't happy with the backing of the Board in the transfer market. The fact he's allegedly travelled down to Stoke the day before a game shows that money talks and there is no loyalty in football.
 
Something tragic about a popular manager at a special and incredibly well supported club like Sunderland, leaving to go to the most beige football club I can imagine.

Stoke aren’t well supported and don’t even have parachute money, they have some decent players but it’s not as good as if they have an immensity of top end championship talent.
 
Addison said:
Stoke ITK yesterday said they'd already spoken with 3 managers who were with other Clubs Neil was one the other 2 were Robins and CW who apparently wasn't happy with what was happening at Boro. O'Neill had complete control of all football matters at Stoke suspect that would have been the attraction for CW if true.

Alex Neill easier to prise away from Sunderland, its in his contract to speak to other clubs, his contract is a rolling 12 months one and he wasn't happy with the backing of the Board in the transfer market. The fact he's allegedly travelled down to Stoke the day before a game shows that money talks and there is no loyalty in football.
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In fairness to Stoke, Neil, Robins and Wilder isn't a bad shortlist for a midtable Championship club.
 

'Reading have signed centre-back Naby Sarr on a four-year deal following his departure from Huddersfield Town at the end of last season.

The 29-year-old defender has been training with the Royals this summer.'

4 years wow
 
Is it just me that doesnt care who everyone else signs? Only thing that matters to me is how strong our squad is and its the strongest its been for a while
 
Classof85 said:
Is it just me that doesnt care who everyone else signs? Only thing that matters to me is how strong our squad is and its the strongest its been for a while
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Some people like to take an interest on how other sides are strengthening their squads.
You don't care but have took time to write a post?

Come on fella...
 
BushBlade said:
Someone did a very detailed analysis on the make up of promoted teams, before we went up and, if I recall correctly, showed we met that criteria and had a good chance of going up. I think, as part of his analysis he’d identified an average age of around 26-28 with a decent proportion of senior players. Can’t remember the name of the poster or I’d search for it.
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I've seen something similar about world cup winning teams. Average age at late 20s is typical for winning teams
 
blade67 said:
It's interesting that you see signing players in their late 20s as a negative in some way. I'd suggest that is the ideal age if you can afford them. Lots of players in their early 20s flatter to decide and get better as they get older.

Our last promotion team had the following players on the pitch most weeks

Bashan 30
Stevens 28
Norwood 27
Fleck 27
Duffy 32
Sharp 32
Mcgoldrick 30
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Experience is important but also having a squad of older players makes injuries more likely and realistically they're not going to improve much (on the flip side they're more likely to be consistent). The main issue with signing older players is that it feels more like filling a gap in the team temporarily where signing a younger player is more of an investment for the future.
 
Agreasychipbutty said:
Experience is important but also having a squad of older players makes injuries more likely and realistically they're not going to improve much (on the flip side they're more likely to be consistent). The main issue with signing older players is that it feels more like filling a gap in the team temporarily where signing a younger player is more of an investment for the future.
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Hmm

I agree that they aren't likely to get better, because they are at their peak.

I'm not sure players in their late 20s are more risky than youngsters in terms of injury though.

Signing a 28 year old on a 3 year deal isn't really a short term decision though. IMO of course
 
N'Diayewillalwaysloveyou said:
'Reading have signed centre-back Naby Sarr on a four-year deal following his departure from Huddersfield Town at the end of last season.

The 29-year-old defender has been training with the Royals this summer.'

4 years wow
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I thought he looked good for Hudds last season and was surprised they let him leave.
 
blade67 said:
I agree that they aren't likely to get better, because they are at their peak.
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Whereas, I don’t. That used to be the case when players retired at 30-32 and didn’t have nutritional coaches and sports scientists but I think there are loads of examples of modern players who continue to improve until they’re in their mid 30s. Not always as dramatically as young players but they gain in experience without the decline in fitness that players of previous eras suffered from. I’d say Sharp and Bash were both better at 32 than at 28.
 

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