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Great! We're fucked then. What a joke.

Whats so difficult? We approach a club (Donny), tell them we want SoD, Ryan say they want 1 mill, we say we'll pay 30 quid, Ryan says he'll take 60 quid per year for the next 20 years, we say no, we then turn to Port Vale, Offer 100 quid for Adams which they accept. We then announce John Carver as manager.
 
We're giving Carver three games. If we get 7 or 9 points, we'll appoint him. It was ever thus.

No need to get too worked up about it. If he can keep us up by doing what Blackie did to Robsons team simply by getting them to run round a bit more then mission accomplished.

The key is not to give him a big contract, just until summer, and assess from there. Compo demands can cgo down as well as up.
 
I think this is the first time I have seen the toys chucked out of the Swiss pram! I think it's ready to tip
 
This is either one of two things:

1) Carver is being given a chance to prove himself after SOD has knocked us back, or
2) SOD has agreed to take over, but only after we've played them on the 3rd.

Personally i think it's the latter.

But given how things usually work at United, a lot of posters will think the former
 
Great! We're fucked then. What a joke.

Whats so difficult? We approach a club (Donny), tell them we want SoD, Ryan say they want 1 mill, we say we'll pay 30 quid, Ryan says he'll take 60 quid per year for the next 20 years, we say no, we then turn to Port Vale, Offer 100 quid for Adams which they accept. We then announce John Carver as manager.

Why ? Donny might have just said we can have him after we have played them.

The club gets slagged off if it rushes things then gets slagged off if it takes longer than a week
 
We're giving Carver three games. If we get 7 or 9 points, we'll appoint him. It was ever thus.

No need to get too worked up about it. If he can keep us up by doing what Blackie did to Robsons team simply by getting them to run round a bit more then mission accomplished.

The key is not to give him a big contract, just until summer, and assess from there. Compo demands can cgo down as well as up.

If we appointed Carver I don't think I will have ever felt so underwhelmed.

We know what needs doing, just bloody do it!
 
I am waiting for DD to come in and do a Michael Douglas from Falling Over.

Shit is going to fly :)
 
To me its quite obvious what this means.....

Carver is being given 3 or 4 games. If we do well over the holiday period, it will be an excuse for them to hire from within again. I am open to the idea of John Carver dont get me wrong, I think he's a good bloke. But this is an obvious attempt once again to go for the cheap option. They need an excuse to do it though, thats all this is about.
 
I'm happy with the statement from BDTBL............commonsense.

Perhaps bb. Maybe my previous post was being a little cynical. Truth is I dont know how to read the statement (other than in a literal way) and I have learned with our club not to expect anything positive.....but if something positive happens then bonus!

They're either holidng out to drive the compo down on SOD (very possible) OR;

They're at a stand-off over it with Donny and need Carver to go on a good run so that they have an excuse to appoint from within (again very possible).

I suppose its best to keep an open mind at the moment and see what happens.
 
If the man you want is, for whatever reason, not available right now, then surely it makes sense to promote from within until he is?

Other option is to go out and get your second choice.

It has it's caveats and is a bit of a gamble but I can see it's appeal.
 
I am waiting for DD to come in and do a Michael Douglas from Falling Over.

Shit is going to fly :)

Not today mate.

It's a sunny day and the kids have broke up. Duncs'll have the little Disorderlys out on a ten mile yomp somewhere with a spring in his step, a smile on his face, and, as ever, a song in his heart.

"Don't worry about the frostbite Kids! There might be a hospital over the next peak!":thumbup:;)
 

Great! We're fucked then. What a joke.

Whats so difficult? We approach a club (Donny), tell them we want SoD, Ryan say they want 1 mill, we say we'll pay 30 quid, Ryan says he'll take 60 quid per year for the next 20 years, we say no, we then turn to Port Vale, Offer 100 quid for Adams which they accept. We then announce John Carver as manager.

Relax Swiss owd cock. Didn't you see the Grolsch adverts? You can't rush these things.

Here is the process that we will be going through:

This morning (20/12). Birch secreatery calls John Ryan secretary.
"Hello, could I arrage a suitable time for Mr Birch" to speak to Mr Ryan"
"Fuck off". Ryan's secreatary hangs up. *
John Ryan decides to take Chritmas period off "to be with family".
Birch gets an appointment after new year and finally speaks to Ryan.
"Look John, you can't avoid me forever. Sean is interested and we need to talk compo"
"Fuck off. You can't have him"
"Let's be realistic about this. He is bigger than your club, he's made his mind up and we can come to an agreement that suits both parties" (see Tricky Trev using his commercial skills!?)
"Ok, ok Trevor, let's talk money" (Ryan is now thingk, wow, this is what the hype is about and why Abramovich was lured to Chelsea. I am in for a tough time here) "ok, we wan't £1.5m"
"Mr McCabe can't stretch that far, but he does have a very generous offer for you. We can offer a bag of pork scratchings, a night in the hotel, a trip to Malta and Sam Ellis."
"Look, I said 1 million, don't waste my time"
"ok, ok John. We'll offer you £200k".
End of conversation. **
A meeting is then scheduled for the following week to negotiate. No agreement is made, but progress is made. ***
Ryan and Birch eventually agree a deal after several weeks. Ryan is so dazzled by Birch's commercial skills that he fuinds himself walking out ot his car with Malta tickets, a membership for the gym at BDTBL, contracts for Monty, Quinn and Ertl and 20 packets of M&M's.

An agreement is made is early January, but this time Swiss has had a heart attack, Ollessendro has fucked the slapper from the estate and Micalijo and McCabe are spotted drinking together in Champs.

What's the rush though? We are crap, we'll lose more than we win with most managers. Let's take our time and find the right one. Luckily enough Scunthorpe, Palace and Preston are so rubbish that we are probably safe even with Carver in charge. Let's face, he couldn't do a much worse job than Speed if he tried.

* At this point we may turn round and appoint Adams.
**Adams is fed up and stays at Vale. If Carver is doing well then the Blades save some money and have a new boss.
*** Doncaster come to the Lane and wipe the floor with the Blades. SOD realises how bad United really are, shits himself and decideds to stay at Donny. He watches the way the fans abuse their own team and isn't impressed at the vile atmosphere. It brings back memories of the debacle in Doncaster a few months ago and he realises he is not actually god and will struggle to turn SUFC round. O'Driscoll decides not to make a disasterous career move and keeps his promising management career alive.
 
I'd rather the club take their time in appointing the right man, than rush into a poor decision. However, we'll have to reserved judgement on who eventually is appointed to see whether or not it was worthwhile.
 
Has nobody considered the possibility that SOD has agreed terms, but as a golden handshake to the Blades fans, has promised to stick around at Donny until after we've played them, a game for which he fields the Doncaster Belles U10's team?
 
Its like not allowing your own player to play against you when he's on loan. They don't want SO'D in charge of us against them on 3rd.

Having said that, Carver gone 4/6 with Sky Bet !!
 
It's like someone saying ''Yeah, I know you're going to get my bird, but I'm going to have the last dance with her".

And then we get to have a go on SODs pert young funbags.

Er...
 
Has anyone considered that the Club regards the decision concerning an appointment to be of such crucial importance that it will not be made in haste and will continue to consider the merits of all potential candidates?

Basically as it says on the OS, but repeated here to help some of the posters who clearly haven;t read it.
 
It will be obvious if it's SOD as he wont be in charge of Donny on the 3rd either, he will be placed on gardening leave after their New Years Day game.

I've not got a problem with the club taking their time. My only concern is that if a new man isn't appointed until 4th Jan he's then knackered in the transfer window, simply not enought time to asses what he's got and look at alternatives.
 
I think this is the first time I have seen the toys chucked out of the Swiss pram! I think it's ready to tip

Aye, I expected better from United, and lets be fair we've all known for over a week about Speed going, United have the inside track on Wales approaching Speed so why haven't we acted faster?

Why ? Donny might have just said we can have him after we have played them.

The club gets slagged off if it rushes things then gets slagged off if it takes longer than a week

Personally I think that any new manager (whoever it may be) needs the full January window to exploit the transfer market AND play both league and cup game(s)

To give ourselves the best chance possible we should get the man in now, not after 3rd Jan. We have 4 games in 8 days, thats potentially 12 points.
 
Falling Over could be the Richard Curtis directed, British set re-make.

Starring Hugh Grant as a demoralised and bitter landscape gardener (D-Forest).


"My, this is um-ooh-ahh-errm terribly awkward. But I errr-uhm-arr-ooh wanted to tell you something. B-b-b-but I don't know. I seem to be so charmingly befuddled."


180px-Hugh_Grant.jpg
 
Aye, I expected better from United, and lets be fair we've all known for over a week about Speed going, United have the inside track on Wales approaching Speed so why haven't we acted faster?



Personally I think that any new manager (whoever it may be) needs the full January window to exploit the transfer market AND play both league and cup game(s)

To give ourselves the best chance possible we should get the man in now, not after 3rd Jan. We have 4 games in 8 days, thats potentially 12 points.

We could potentially be in the third week of january before the new guy has had his chance to assess the squad, and see what replacements are needed, by which time good replacements will have been snapped up.
 
Speed said in the week before he left that he had two signings lined up, maybe they are still in the pipeline and his departure hasn't changed anything on that score.

According to the oracle on BM, nothing's changed, SO'D is still our No.1 target and the wheels are turning. Maybe news later in the week.
 
We could potentially be in the third week of january before the new guy has had his chance to assess the squad, and see what replacements are needed, by which time good replacements will have been snapped up.

I think it's just me at the moment, however I am not worried. I would be happy to get a new centre half in as cover. This team proved on Saturday it can work hard to get results. I don't think we are in too much danger even if we kept Carver till the end of the season. I think we are in safe hands until we get the man we want in. As someone else said, why get 2nd best.
 
I much prefer this approach to the 'quick let's appoint Bryan Robson before we realise he's shit' hasty one we've suffered from previously
 

Speed said in the week before he left that he had two signings lined up, maybe they are still in the pipeline and his departure hasn't changed anything on that score.

According to the oracle on BM, nothing's changed, SO'D is still our No.1 target and the wheels are turning. Maybe news later in the week.

Wouldn't be the first time they've told us "Nothing's happening, no change" while their hands are busy working overtime.
 

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