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Prem owner needed said:
Before responding further to your comments regarding reasoning, supposition, facts, etc, let’s just see what develops or doesn’t develop with your star club employee over the next few weeks and we can revisit this then?

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As for the bellend comments, what can I say, apart from THANKS you total prick.
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So you’re waiting for something to actually happen before laying into someone. That’s real growth congratulations.
The bellend comments were based entirely on your posts nothing more, but I’m glad it landed.
Can you imagine how you’d feel if someone had called you the things you post?

Given how I’ve already pulled apart your inability to reason and form conclusions based on evidence I can see how difficult it may be for you to piece together how much you calling me a prick cut me deep.
 

Thanks!

I have my own information, as do you by your accounts and there is more than enough data now starting to circulate regarding the potential for the PH appointment every day, so let's just wait and see what develops regarding the accuracy of information, etc (not supposition).
 
FriethBlade said:
'Throw them under the bus in the PL ? Each and every one of those lads will be chomping at the bit to get a chance to play first team football. They've dreamed of that moment and trained their whole life for the opportunity. I can assure you there isn't one of them or their families who would view it that way!

Im not advocating putting 3 or 4 in per game but Hackford and Idaye have already played so giving them another couple of chances before the end of the season will build on that...and who knows they might actually do well.
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I think that Ndiaye is injured. Perhaps he would have played more if not.
Hackford hasn't scored many at U23 level and was on the bench for the U18s in the Youth Cup quarter final.
From watching some of the U23s game on Tuesday, none of them looked like they were close to playing in the Premier League.
 
The one positive of Hecky getting the job is that whoever gets it next will have have 50-60 % of the fan base on his back from day one for the simple reason he’s not Chris Wilder. So if we are going to have someone driven out of the club in short order it might as well be a shit someone.
 
Harry's Game said:
The one positive of Hecky getting the job is that whoever gets it next will have have 50-60 % of the fan base on his back from day one for the simple reason he’s not Chris Wilder. So if we are going to have someone driven out of the club in short order it might as well be a shit someone.
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The problem is with a “sacrificial” manager, apart from being a little nonsensical, is that we’re on a limited time window where we have the relative riches of the parachute payments. If / when they run out, given we had to take out lending to buy the club’s assets from KMc, I’d fear we could be in a spot of bother. It really is shit or bust with this appointment, and we need to do the former promptly.

Most crucial managerial appointment in the last 20 years for me. Which is why I suspect it is causing so much anxiety amongst the fanbase.
 
A bad appointment now will put us back 10 years in my opinion.
We cannot go into this summer without a proper management team that holds no affection to the current squad.
In that, I mean no bladey bladeness holding on to the memories of the last 4 seasons,a clearout of the dead wood,and a new style of tactical changes the is desperately needed.
 
Not properly read much about it but I don't see any chance Hecky gets the job. I'd be stunned if he did.
 
Rodley said:
The problem is with a “sacrificial” manager, apart from being a little nonsensical, is that we’re on a limited time window where we have the relative riches of the parachute payments. If / when they run out, given we had to take out lending to buy the club’s assets from KMc, I’d fear we could be in a spot of bother. It really is shit or bust with this appointment, and we need to do the former promptly.

Most crucial managerial appointment in the last 20 years for me. Which is why I suspect it is causing so much anxiety amongst the fanbase.
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We are on a limited time window - as we were with Bryan Robson, which ended up being a toss up as to who was worse of the "big player" we've signed as managers ie: Robson or Peters.

The idea of ANY ex top player thinking they can be a manager simply because they've played at the highest level is just ridiculous. To be fair to some, they take their time in coaching and John terry is the latest to at least learn his new trade under an experienced manager.

Personally i'll go bonkers if we give it to Heckingbottom - he just seems too nice a fella for one and it's questionable if his past endeavours as a manager means he isn't capable. He's said he wants to return the the academy - for me he knows that is his level, as did Alan Knill years ago thinking that he also wasn't cut out to be a manager and settled as Wilders coach.

Agree about it being crucial - we got it wrong with Robson in very similar circumstances and to make it worse football has changed since then.

We have a perfect opportunity as Norwich and Watford have shown and with little money sloshing about in the Championship we do have the choice of 2,3 perhaps 4 key signings from Championship teams and perhaps 2 or 3 loan signings from the big 6 clubs (ie: Skipp at Norwich on loan from Spurs has been instrumental this season for them)

We simply have to get it right this time and I don't look forward to the shitstorm if we get it wrong.

I genuinely wish the management team good luck in their choice.

UTB
 
Fulwood Blade said:
We are on a limited time window - as we were with Bryan Robson, which ended up being a toss up as to who was worse of the "big player" we've signed as managers ie: Robson or Peters.

The idea of ANY ex top player thinking they can be a manager simply because they've played at the highest level is just ridiculous. To be fair to some, they take their time in coaching and John terry is the latest to at least learn his new trade under an experienced manager.

Personally i'll go bonkers if we give it to Heckingbottom - he just seems too nice a fella for one and it's questionable if his past endeavours as a manager means he isn't capable. He's said he wants to return the the academy - for me he knows that is his level, as did Alan Knill years ago thinking that he also wasn't cut out to be a manager and settled as Wilders coach.

Agree about it being crucial - we got it wrong with Robson in very similar circumstances and to make it worse football has changed since then.

We have a perfect opportunity as Norwich and Watford have shown and with little money sloshing about in the Championship we do have the choice of 2,3 perhaps 4 key signings from Championship teams and perhaps 2 or 3 loan signings from the big 6 clubs (ie: Skipp at Norwich on loan from Spurs has been instrumental this season for them)

We simply have to get it right this time and I don't look forward to the shitstorm if we get it wrong.

I genuinely wish the management team good luck in their choice.

UTB
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Completely agree, but to add - this is a fantastic job at Championship level due to our relative wealth from the parachute payments. Unless there’s stuff going on that we aren’t privy to, we should be able to attract the best and brightest prospects capable of managing at that level. It’s a great position to be in.
 
Nobody currently associated with the Club should expect to be anywhere near our management team for the coming transfer window. We need a full & clean break from this carcrash of a season , if only to give the players fair notice that the regime has changed and their position on their fat contracts is not safe unless they perform. The incomers need to be without ANY loyalties to the current squad so that a "cull & recruit" exercise can operate without fear or favour. It will cost money but it has to be done by a new broom sweeping away the recent past. So for no fault of his own , PH simply MUST NOT get the job.
If we appoint him , i predict an uncomfortable slide downwards.
 
Appleton was caretaker manager for Leicester in 2017 for 2 games, both victories, meaning as a 100% record PL manager he must be the obvious choice?

I'm in.
 
Keen Blade said:
Nobody currently associated with the Club should expect to be anywhere near our management team for the coming transfer window. We need a full & clean break from this carcrash of a season , if only to give the players fair notice that the regime has changed and their position on their fat contracts is not safe unless they perform. The incomers need to be without ANY loyalties to the current squad so that a "cull & recruit" exercise can operate without fear or favour. It will cost money but it has to be done by a new broom sweeping away the recent past. So for no fault of his own , PH simply MUST NOT get the job.
If we appoint him , i predict an uncomfortable slide downwards.
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Post of the week sir.
 
If Heckingbottom gets the job I'd be extremely surprised. The owner doesn't appear to be an egotistical idiot so I just dont see it.

But the "if PH gets it and we sell any players we are obviously about to go out of business" stuff is a bit much. Clubs make shit decisions all the time. They are pretty much all still around.
 

Carlton Blade said:
If Heckingbottom gets the job I'd be extremely surprised. The owner doesn't appear to be an egotistical idiot so I just dont see it.

But the "if PH gets it and we sell any players we are obviously about to go out of business" stuff is a bit much. Clubs make shit decisions all the time. They are pretty much all still around.
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I don't want PH but not because I fear player sales - in fact I am desperate for us to cull a lot of players who are either lazy , useless , aging or don't fit our forward plans. And I can't see PH being strong-minded enough to persuade the Prince to do the costly cull & recruit. I want a new manager who will demand the changes necessary to improve the squad. Whatever you think of the Prince , he watches a lot of football and even he must be able to see that Lunny & Moose are taking the piss , McB is a clumsy donkey , Fleck & Norwood can't hit a corner which beats the first man , Brewster's Millions etc etc.
 
Carlton Blade said:
If Heckingbottom gets the job I'd be extremely surprised. The owner doesn't appear to be an egotistical idiot so I just dont see it.

But the "if PH gets it and we sell any players we are obviously about to go out of business" stuff is a bit much. Clubs make shit decisions all the time. They are pretty much all still around.
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That's a strawman. People have said that such a scenario will result in a poor season and possible relegation. That seems to me to be a reasonable position to hold.
 
Keen Blade said:
I don't want PH but not because I fear player sales - in fact I am desperate for us to cull a lot of players who are either lazy , useless , aging or don't fit our forward plans. And I can't see PH being strong-minded enough to persuade the Prince to do the costly cull & recruit. I want a new manager who will demand the changes necessary to improve the squad. Whatever you think of the Prince , he watches a lot of football and even he must be able to see that Lunny & Moose are taking the piss , McB is a clumsy donkey , Fleck & Norwood can't hit a corner which beats the first man , Brewster's Millions etc etc.
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I get the feeling big Abdul would prefer a yes man, some one spineless enough to do everything Van Winkle suggests. We just got shut of a demanding strong minded manager
 
Revolution said:
That's a strawman. People have said that such a scenario will result in a poor season and possible relegation. That seems to me to be a reasonable position to hold.
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I wasn't referring to you.

Plenty of comments about how PH + player sales = financial meltdown
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
He’s right, there are no other options. You can’t just parachute the u23s in. Not only is it a logistical issue with the bubbles, but it wrecks what has been a positive season to throw them under the bus in the PL. Instead of them having a great boost to their confidence and progression you’re likely to be damage a lot of them by putting them under the huge spotlight of the media when the team is entirely dysfunctional. They need a stable environment to be blooded into, just look at how Brewster and Ramsdale faired and they had far more experience and probably ability than those you are suggesting.
So aside to potentially wrecking some of the kids, who can he have brought in while trying to ensure we’re not getting pumped 5,6,7 nil each week? I genuinely can’t see any alternate options.
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Don' you remember when Walker and Naughton both U23s were put straight into the first team?
didn't do either of them any harm, could say the complete opposite.
If you can swim it dunt matter how deep the water is !
 
sheff_blade90 said:
seems to think steve cooper is on the shortlist

www.sheffieldunited.news

Swansea boss Steve Cooper reportedly still being considered by Sheffield United - but there's a hitch

Sheffield United are reportedly still considered Swansea boss Steve Cooper as their next manager, but there is a hitch in any potential deal.
www.sheffieldunited.news www.sheffieldunited.news
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I'm bored of all the none stories on this now.. It's clear nobody has a clue who the fabled "5" are.. Just gonna wait and see if im going to be clinically "fed up" with the choice.
 
dtblade said:
Don' you remember when Walker and Naughton both U23s were put straight into the first team?
didn't do either of them any harm, could say the complete opposite.
If you can swim it dunt matter how deep the water is !
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They'd both played professional football previously in their careers, were coming into a winning and settled side and we weren't at Premier League level.

At the risk of repeating myself, I'm not saying they aren't ready just that two managers including one who is our leading advocate of our youth setup haven't believed they are. Also the risk of damage to their development is significant to throwing them in at this level, into a side totally devoid of confidence, and under the highest level of scrutiny and criticism.
 
Danetheblade said:
I'm bored of all the none stories on this now.. It's clear nobody has a clue who the fabled "5" are.. Just gonna wait and see if im going to be clinically "fed up" with the choice.
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im hoping for pleasantly surprised but i dont like how this is going & we going to cock it up like 2007
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
The poster I was replying to was calling out us continuing to play our current midfield. The manager should have been dropping Lunny, Fleck and Norwood. That means starting in the PL the most inexperienced midfield ever put out. Is that seriously what you are advocating and being good for their development? How many do you think they’d ship each game?
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Read what I wrote, I'm not advocating putting the entire u23 midfield in. Giving the likes of Hackford and Ndiaye another couple of chances before the end of the season is not throwing them under the bus. It's exposing them to the next level up of football.

Ndiaye is 21 ffs he's not a kid, he wants a chance to prove himself and now is a good opportuning when there is no pressure. Or r u advocating putting them in at the start of next season when there will be loads of pressure....or perhaps never putting them in ?
 
FriethBlade said:
Read whay I wrote, I'm not advocating putting the entire u23 midfield in. Giving the likes of Hackford and Ndaye another couple of chances before the end of the season is not throwing them under the bus. It's exposing them to the next level up of football.

Ndaye is 21 ffs he's not a kid, he wants a chance to prove himself and now is a good opportuning when there is no pressure. Or r u advocating putting them in at the start of next season when there will be loads of pressure....or perhaps never putting them in ?
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Totally agree. It’s basically a free hit for them with no pressure and great opportunity to experience playing against some of the best in the world.
 

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