Will we send Wednesday down?

[ISZA ⚔️]

No. There are some edge cases that would see them already related even if 4th from bottom have 35 points for to remaining games between teams at the bottom ensuring that some of them have to pick up more points.

I don’t mean to be rude but can you try that again?

 

[Balham]

I don’t mean to be rude but can you try that again?

Essentially you’re correct, unless there are two sides outside the relegation zone on 35 points who have to play each other again before the end of the season.

 

[TCW]

I think the likely Pompey result tonight means it’s the WBA v Coventry match that will likely decide whether they’re down before we play them or not.

 

[staton]

There is no doubt whatsoever that Wednesday are going to be relegated very soon.They have been (virtually) down since going into admin and being deducted the 12 points. If they survive this weekend they will be relegated the first time they drop another point. Survival would depend on winning every remaining game while the teams below them hardly pick up another point. That is,of course, impossible. We are talking about the day and game they are mathematically and officially relegated. Going down with 13 games left on Feb 22 (if not 14) would smash all records of 7 games and the end of March. Portsmouth are winning 2-0 at Charlton and heading for the 36 points. Blackburn only need a draw at home to Preston on Friday. West Brom (our best hope) must not beat Coventry Saturday lunchtime. Otherwise they are down before we get the chance to confirm their demise.

 

[Silent Blade]

I think the likely Pompey result tonight means it’s the WBA v Coventry match that will likely decide whether they’re down before we play them or not.

Dont forget Blackburn v Preston on Friday but I would want Blackburn to win so that we have a better chance of overtaking Preston.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

If I’m seeing this right with Pompey winning tonight & if Leicester who are on 32 get a point or above on Sat at Stoke that would put them on 33+ …. we beat Weds on Sunday we would relegate them as they’d have 13 games left with a max of 39 - 7 points deduction = 32

 

[jt64]

If I’m seeing this right with Pompey winning tonight & if Leicester who are on 32 get a point or above on Sat at Stoke that would put them on 33+ …. we beat Weds on Sunday we would relegate them as they’d have 13 games left with a max of 39 - 7 points deduction = 32

They are down if we win regardless of other results. The only thing that is live is if they are down before we play them, which would require Blackburn to get a point against Preston and West Brom to beat Cov. Either of those two don't happen and we can deliver the relegation hammer

 

[CornwallBlade]

Can’t help sensing a bit too much over confidence on here. This will be their biggest game of the season now. Nothing whatsoever to lose and a massive middle finger to us if they get any kind of result, including a draw. It's a derby, it's a football match and we are the Blades - anything can happen. We absolutely should win comfortably but I’ll be keeping my gloating under wraps until we’re home and hosed.

 

[derfblade.3]

I would rarther play them already relegated. No pressure to "send them down" as the fuckers are down already.
All i want is to give them a reyt bashing.

 

[Selly]

Tonight's result simplifys things as Portsmouth are no longer catchable by SWFC (1990)

If Blackburn lose on Friday, and Leicester fail to win, then it will go to Sunday.

If Blackburn get a point or more, and WBA don't win, then it will go to Sunday.

If Blackburn lose, WBA draw and Leicester win then it will go to Sunday.

If Blackburn lose, and Leicester win, and WBA don't draw they are relegated. (Because Blackburn still have to play Leicester)

If Blackburn lose, and Leicester don't win, and WBA draw they are relegated. (Because Blackburn still have to play WBA)

If Blackburn get a point or more, and WBA win, then they are relegated.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Can’t help sensing a bit too much over confidence on here. This will be their biggest game of the season now. Nothing whatsoever to lose and a massive middle finger to us if they get any kind of result, including a draw. It's a derby, it's a football match and we are the Blades - anything can happen. We absolutely should win comfortably but I’ll be keeping my gloating under wraps until we’re home and hosed.

Def not getting carried away .. this is their only game of relevance left so expecting a close hard fought game tbh .. just stating the maths that’s all

 

[jt64]

They will be able to catch Leicester regardless of what Leicester do. Leicester do not change the equation.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Cant see how Blackburn result affects things before Sunday as they are already on 34 points . Leicester on 32 get a point takes to 33 if they win 35 points ..Pigs can only get 35 from 14 remaining games as things stand now .. we win Sunday they can only get 32 from there remaining 13 games .. so relegated ?

 

[Ron_Justice]

Cant see how Blackburn result affects things before Sunday as they are already on 34 points . Leicester on 32 get a point takes to 33 if they win 35 points ..Pigs can only get 35 from 14 remaining games as things stand now .. we win Sunday they can only get 32 from there remaining 13 games .. so relegated ?

Irrelevant of all other games and results, if we win, they're down.

There's a slim chance of it happening before, but I'm not even paying attention to that. Too many moving parts to hold in my head at once.

When the idea was first touted a few weeks ago, it looked more likely that it would be done by now. Goes to show, it's tough to predict multiple results all working towards one goal.

For me, it's the West Brom / Cov game that's playing into our hands. Cov don't lose that IMO.

 

[jt64]

Cant see how Blackburn result affects things before Sunday as they are already on 34 points . Leicester on 32 get a point takes to 33 if they win 35 points ..Pigs can only get 35 from 14 remaining games as things stand now .. we win Sunday they can only get 32 from there remaining 13 games .. so relegated ?

They can mathematically catch four teams. That needs to go down to two for them to go down. Leicester and Oxford will still be catchable whatever they do before we play them, unless either play someone tomorrow and I have not noticed. So it is all down to Blackburn, who need a draw to be guaranteed above them, and West Brom, who need a win to be guaranteed above them.

 

[ForgeBlade]

am I being thick or is it now very simple? IF we beat them, they'll have 13 games left, maximum of 39 points, minus their comical -7 means they'd finish on 32. WBA have 34 already. Is it now merely a case of if they go on saturday with other results?

 

[Champagneblade]

Provided the 4th bottom team are not on greater than 35 points at kick off then they’d still be ‘alive’ on goal difference and any dropped points by them on Sunday sends them down.

At present you’ve got to say that West Brom beating Coventry would be a huge upset. Not sure if there is some perverse local derby element there as a leveller.

I’m with Silent Blade earlier comment. I’d like Blackburn to leg Preston back. Our path to accumulating points has to involve overtaking teams sooner or later.

Wrexham’s was a good outcome and having beaten them in the cup, I can’t imagine Ipswich are looking to lose to them twice in quick succession.

 

[Selly]

Leicester do not change the equation.

They do because of these two scenarios

If Blackburn lose, WBA draw and Leicester win then it will go to Sunday.

If Blackburn lose, and Leicester win, and WBA don't draw they are relegated. (Because Blackburn still have to play Leicester)

 

[Selly]

am I being thick or is it now very simple? IF we beat them, they'll have 13 games left, maximum of 39 points, minus their comical -7 means they'd finish on 32. WBA have 34 already. Is it now merely a case of if they go on saturday with other results?

Correct!!!

 

[Silent Blade]

Cant see how Blackburn result affects things before Sunday as they are already on 34 points . Leicester on 32 get a point takes to 33 if they win 35 points ..Pigs can only get 35 from 14 remaining games as things stand now .. we win Sunday they can only get 32 from there remaining 13 games .. so relegated ?

Blackburn are currently on 35 points, not 34

 

[John Street West Terrace]

am I being thick or is it now very simple? IF we beat them, they'll have 13 games left, maximum of 39 points, minus their comical -7 means they'd finish on 32. WBA have 34 already. Is it now merely a case of if they go on saturday with other results?

That’s exactly as I see it

 

[TCW]

Tonight's result simplifys things as Portsmouth are no longer catchable by SWFC (1990)

If Blackburn lose on Friday, and Leicester fail to win, then it will go to Sunday.

If Blackburn get a point or more, and WBA don't win, then it will go to Sunday.

If Blackburn lose, WBA draw and Leicester win then it will go to Sunday.

If Blackburn lose, and Leicester win, and WBA don't draw they are relegated. (Because Blackburn still have to play Leicester)

If Blackburn lose, and Leicester don't win, and WBA draw they are relegated. (Because Blackburn still have to play WBA)

If Blackburn get a point or more, and WBA win, then they are relegated.

The maths are hurting my brain at this point but not sure the Blackburn loss, Leicester win and WBA no draw is correct.

Loss leaves WBA on 34 and the other two on 35. Whilst they still have to play each other, they could mathematically catch one of them.

WBA win in that scenario and I think you’re right.

If 22nd and 21st are on 35 points on Saturday afternoon but have to play each other, they’re relegated.

Similar scenario in the 5th one. If Blackburn and WBA end up on 35 points in 20th and 21st, one of them could still be caught.

Might be wrong, though!

 

[John Street West Terrace]

That’s exactly as I see it

Their 35 points theoretical max what ppl are factoring in includes includes beating us on Sunday .. lose to us and that max is 32 points . Leicester are the highest placed side in bottom three on 32pts ..
So as I said previously Leicester get 1 point or more on Saturday that takes them to 33+ and then Weds are 100% down if we beat them on Sunday as they could only get 32 .
The only result that would stop us ‘officially’ relegating them with a win on Sunday is if Leicester lose on Saturday at Stoke as theoretically the pigs could still get 32 points also.

 

[TCW]

Their 35 theoretical max includes beating us , lose to us and that max its 32 , Leicester only side on 32pts .. as I said previously Leicester get 1 point or more takes them to 33+ and they are down

They need to catch 21st, not 22nd to stay up. It’s the points that 21st has that matters.

 

[jt64]

They do because of these two scenarios

If Blackburn lose, WBA draw and Leicester win then it will go to Sunday.

If Blackburn lose, and Leicester win, and WBA don't draw they are relegated. (Because Blackburn still have to play Leicester)

I think everyone here is not talking about considering future results

 

[Hockey'sBeard]

I thought with 14 games left max they can get with all wins is total of 35 points if on minus 7 now. Draw against us and they get max 33 points and are relegated.

At least Pederson gets it - I couldn’t agree more with his statement