New stadium at the Lane?

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Sheffsteel said:
A big factor in filling stadiums is PRICING.

Bradford C- charge £150 for season tickets with kids virtually free and now get 18K gates.

Huddersfield- charge £200 for season tickets with kids virtually free and now get 20K gates

West Ham- worried about filling a 56K stadium, so they charge £300 for a season ticket, at that price 1000's of neutrals sign up and they sell 55K season tickets.

Stoke- smaller support that us, plodding along mid table every season with little excitement but they sell all their 24K season tickets every season. Their season tickets have been frozen yet again next season at around £300 with kids virtually free.

A question
If we charged £200 on the Kop and £300 in the other stands with kids free when accompanied by an adult.
How many season tickets would we sell? I reckon easily 25 to 30,000 every season.
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Spot on :cool: get pricing right and have a team that folks want to come and see,you fill the ground.
 

ChipButtyBlade said:
Spot on :cool: get pricing right and have a team that folks want to come and see,you fill the ground.
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I think the main driver is not so much to see Sheff Utd, it's to see PL football which is massive.

There are 1000's of kids in the South Yorkshire area that LOVE football, love watching Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs , Chelsea etc and might have a slight leaning towards United or Wednesday.

Encourage the dads to bring those kids and we would build 10,000 new season ticket holders over night. They eventually catch the bug and become committed Blades.

It seems cheap season tickets could be the new trend.
Less chance of trouble because clubs with cctv know where every fan is sat and that person risks losing their season ticket for any indiscretion. That's the reason why PL clubs can place home fans so close to away fans with a thin line of stewards because almost every fan is a season ticket holder.

Less hassle in the ticket office because the vast majority of the seats are already sold.
The club know what budget they have because all the income from tickets comes in during the Summer etc
 
Dkc said:
Not only Arsenal. Man City also got sub-30k crowds at Maine Rd before they were gifted a new stadium and the investment came flooding in. West Ham were pulling crowds in the low 20k's not too long ago. Now both these clubs pull 50k plus. Leeds used to get 40k in the prem, but more recently its been more like 25k. Sunderland are another example, as are Brighton.

There's no reason we couldn't pull 40k if we were in the top half of the PL - not for all games, but for the big ones - if our stadium could accomodate crowds that size
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A few years before the Etihad City had spent 4 seasons outside the top flight but we're still approaching 30k gates.

West Ham have had one sub 30k season in 15 years and they were in the championship. They generally average 33k plus but in the most recent second tier season averaged almost 31k.
 
blade too long said:
well ARSENAL had a 3800 stadium at highbury and reguarly never had capacity gates , some seasons barely averaging 35k , but moved to a 80 k stadium and fill it , yet havent won the league since

so theres proof if you build it , they will come

a lot of the 25000 extra supporters go for the occasion
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Are you seriously comparing us to Arsenal?

And The Emirates only holds 60,000.
 
blade too long said:
well I remember us being top for a couple of months in 72 and we reguarly got 40 k plus
an even mediocre decent season finishing 10th we would piss 45000 in this tv era
we get a few students visit now , imagine how many would tuirn up for chelsea
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In more recent history we were in the PL for a year and sold out a handful of times with a 33k capacity. When we achieve that week in week out for 2/3 years then it's time to expand. Empty seats look rubbish and generate negative vibes.
 
I can see a major shift of Premiership players and managers to China in the not too distant future. Not as much money being pumped into football in this country and hopefully seeing a gradual return to 'real football'. Entrance prices will need to come down as a result. Not a bad thing in my opinion. I think over investment in the stadium could well backfire as a result. I would be happy with a new kop, moulded around into the south stand with a 40k max capacity. Just the kop for now though and see how things progress.
 
We don't necessarily need a bigger stadium. But a better one would be nice.
 
CarlMcBlade said:
We don't necessarily need a bigger stadium. But a better one would be nice.
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Completely wrong.

If we really want to be like the Massive who we ALWAYS copy, we need a bigger stadium. We need to introduce accelerated rusting on all our stands and stick a big dirty banner on the road side of the kop. Also we need a park full of dogshit and winos, to help with any potential World Cup bid.
 
Muttley said:
I can see a major shift of Premiership players and managers to China in the not too distant future. Not as much money being pumped into football in this country and hopefully seeing a gradual return to 'real football'. Entrance prices will need to come down as a result. Not a bad thing in my opinion. I think over investment in the stadium could well backfire as a result. I would be happy with a new kop, moulded around into the south stand with a 40k max capacity. Just the kop for now though and see how things progress.
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Agree completely re China as Benitez has apparently been offered 30 million a season to head there in the summer. Crazy.
 
I can't wait till they all fuck off to China some English lads might get a look in at a Premiership club. Also with more home grown talent getting games and learning on the job we might get an England side that don't just make the numbers up in the Euro's and World cups.
 
I think we should wait for a decision on safe standing. If that gets the go ahead then rebuild all the lower kop with safe standing, Perhaps seats for the upper tier. Fill in both corners properly with seats. No office blocks in corners, put office blocks behind. Ground is ugly as it is. They can flatten the whole lot for me, but moving from the lane is a no.Never.
 
When I watch matches on tv, they always seem to be standing behind the goals instead of using their seats. Are we the only ones to actually stick to the rules and sit
 

Glyn Hodges left foot said:
I think we should wait for a decision on safe standing. If that gets the go ahead then rebuild all the lower kop with safe standing, Perhaps seats for the upper tier. Fill in both corners properly with seats. No office blocks in corners, put office blocks behind. Ground is ugly as it is. They can flatten the whole lot for me, but moving from the lane is a no.Never.
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Various problems with that suggestion.

Safe standing could take over 10 years to come in, progress is still proving to be very slow
And if and when it does come in many are predicting the same 1:1 ratio as they have with seats meaning no capacity increase. Filling in the Kop corners are different gradients so to do as you've suggested we'd need to build a totally new stand from scratch which would be massively expensive with little return.
If we built the Kop with a steeper rake then capacity wouldnt be that much more than what we already have.

Also in the PL every clubs provides media facilities for Sky tv.
We built a temporary port-a-cabin in that corner when we had televised matches.
In the new plans the office block will have a media centre on one floor with great views of the pitch.

Any decision is based on cost versus increased income from that upgrade.
 
Sean Thornton said:
Arsenal were up at high thirty seven thousand and thirty eight thousand gates . You quoted gates from years before they moved not immediately before so it is skewed.

You now talk about not filling a ground after winning titles a few posts after quoting Liverpools gates dropping even though they were very succesful.

1971/72, our season average was I think 33k. How many "regular" 40k attendances were there?
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all the first few were up there yes we faded baly after october , but we had several 40 plus early on leeds tottenham
 
blade too long said:
it was only one season
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Taylor report. They had their attendance reduced because of the Taylor report, then took advantage of the FA funding to redevelop the North Bank, similar to what we did at the time.
 
PeterNdlovu081 said:
Are you seriously comparing us to Arsenal?

And The Emirates only holds 60,000.
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why cant I compare us with Arsenal

arent they a football club

In the sixties we were their equal
and I see no reason not to compare us with any club in England

they have 11 players and if Im not mistaken we beat them im our last meeting
 
derekacorah said:
In more recent history we were in the PL for a year and sold out a handful of times with a 33k capacity. When we achieve that week in week out for 2/3 years then it's time to expand. Empty seats look rubbish and generate negative vibes.
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thats what they said at southampton
they dont do too bad

Leicester fill a new stadium before they won the prem

if you can get them in go for it
 
BushBlade said:
Taylor report. They had their attendance reduced because of the Taylor report, then took advantage of the FA funding to redevelop the North Bank, similar to what we did at the time.
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the main point is to go from 38000 to 60000 was a big risk , and seeing as they havent won the prem since , it fills every week at silly prices
 
BushBlade said:
Taylor report. They had their attendance reduced because of the Taylor report, then took advantage of the FA funding to redevelop the North Bank, similar to what we did at the time.
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still didnt fill it every game . which is the point , it was a huge step to go from 38000 to 60000 needed some grande cahones to do it
 
blade too long said:
all the first few were up there yes we faded baly after october , but we had several 40 plus early on leeds tottenham
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4. Not really "regular". Leeds Spurs Chelsea when we were doing really well. Man United towards the seasons end- Easter Tuesday?- four clubs who all brought huge support for those games.
 
blade too long said:
still didnt fill it every game . which is the point , it was a huge step to go from 38000 to 60000 needed some grande cahones to do it
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No. They knew, like Spurs do now, they could fill a bigger better stadium due to the PL coming.
 
blade too long said:
still didnt fill it every game . which is the point , it was a huge step to go from 38000 to 60000 needed some grande cahones to do it
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Almost filled it every game yet with no proof you've discounted away fans not selling out as a reason .
 

Sean Thornton said:
No. They knew, like Spurs do now, they could fill a bigger better stadium due to the PL coming.
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wasnt guaranteed was it

southampton went to a larger stadium

they've no guarantees they'd fill their ground

Stoke moved . worked out for them
sunderland went from pokey to bigger

middlesboro
 
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