New prices at the lane

[Flatulent_Bob]

If tickets were £25 I think it's likely the ground would already be sold out.

You’ve ignored the point as per normal, and moved back to gaps, which a moment ago weren’t the point. However, the ground is pretty much sold out with our current pricing so I’m not sure what your point is. If we drop prices tickets would sell quicker, but we’d have the same number of fans in on match day?

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Oh I know you'll assure me mate but don't like the place, love Sheffield but for some strange reason (Labour) it's stagnated and they're doing it up 30 years too late.

Don't get me wrong. I also love Sheffield. I left in 1969 to go to College in Leeds. Sheffield was a lively thriving city with plenty of cash sloshing about. Leeds was a proper dump. On the way in to the bus station I saw a shack selling horse meat - that's how bad Leeds was in 1969. It was grimy city whereas Sheffield was just the opposite. How things have changed.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

It’s not an overwhelming Labour majority. It’s not the delusions of grandeur. It’s not the entrenched political dogma that trumps everything else, including the future prosperity of the city.

Manchester city council has 97 seats. 92 are Labour. Leeds city council has 57 Labour seats out of 99. Big majorities. Manchester has been Labour for longer than just about anywhere. I'm not sticking up for Labour, but there are other reasons why Leeds and Manchester have thrived and are dynamic, whilst Sheffield (except around S2 4SU) is er....less so! Manchester and Leeds have always been commercial money cities, as well as making stuff. We just tended to make stuff (my dad always said the only thing they made in Leeds was money - not true but amusing). When cities started to make less stuff, they still had the money commercial side to fall back on. Sheffield didn't. Combine this with some less than inspiring decision making (Student Games, Meadowhall) and you have where we are now. It's not about party politics, it's about vision and planning, and sometimes luck. Portsmouth, a sizeable port and industrial city, has mainly had Tory councils, and it's a shithole. Nottingham is Tory from time to time and is lively and thriving! Sheffield is great though, and I'm very proud to be a Sheffielder. It has character in spades, great beer, pubs and breweries, and a Premier league football club. And Hendos!!!

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Don't get me wrong. I also love Sheffield. I left in 1969 to go to College in Leeds. Sheffield was a lively thriving city with plenty of cash sloshing about. Leeds was a proper dump. On the way in to the bus station I saw a shack selling horse meat - that's how bad Leeds was in 1969. It was grimy city whereas Sheffield was just the opposite. How things have changed.

They have indeed. See my post on the reasons!

 

[blade67]

Just seen a photo of new prices at the lane. £5 a pint, £2.50 for a soft drink

They priced me out of it at around £4.50 a pint a while back. I don't drink at 1/2 time cause there isn't time anyway

Found other places to drink now prior to the game but I guess the economics must stack up for them

 

[blade67]

Manchester city council has 97 seats. 92 are Labour. Leeds city council has 57 Labour seats out of 99. Big majorities. Manchester has been Labour for longer than just about anywhere. I'm not sticking up for Labour, but there are other reasons why Leeds and Manchester have thrived and are dynamic, whilst Sheffield (except around S2 4SU) is er....less so! Manchester and Leeds have always been commercial money cities, as well as making stuff. We just tended to make stuff (my dad always said the only thing they made in Leeds was money - not true but amusing). When cities started to make less stuff, they still had the money commercial side to fall back on. Sheffield didn't. Combine this with some less than inspiring decision making (Student Games, Meadowhall) and you have where we are now. It's not about party politics, it's about vision and planning, and sometimes luck. Portsmouth, a sizeable port and industrial city, has mainly had Tory councils, and it's a shithole. Nottingham is Tory from time to time and is lively and thriving! Sheffield is great though, and I'm very proud to be a Sheffielder. It has character in spades, great beer, pubs and breweries, and a Premier league football club. And Hendos!!!

posting sensible thought out arguments backed up by relevant facts is rarely welcome on here. Beware

 

[nickwr37]

Never understood the need to queue for ever to pay stupid money for food or drink in a football ground.
Eat beforehand and likewise get some ale down.
Ffs it's only 90 minutes.
Bit like the fucktards that buy food and drink on a 2 hour Ryanair flight.

Agree in the main but when I fly Ryanair to Faro after a few scoops and food in Aspire Lounge Lpl airport I pay for a few more beers. However, it is a 2hr 55min flight. They can nail it in 2hrs25mins if behind. I then get to Faro pre tfr and have a couple of cans from Costa. Sets me up for arrival near The Strip and a night out. Best bargain is airport lounge all inclusive for 3 hours c £20. I fill my boots. Next trip 21/9

 

[Snowman]

I’m gonna say a few controversial things here, I’m sorry if I offend anyone. I will start by saying I absolutely love Sheffield and despite being from Chesterfield, I’ve supported United all my life and Sheffield will always be my home city despite living in loads of other big cities around the world.

However, there’s a deep rooted mindset within the Sheffield people that holds them and the city back a lot. Good things happen to other cities. Investment and high end products are for other people. You have to ask yourself why, despite all being cut from virtually the same cloth and sharing a lot of identity, the cities of Leeds, Sheffield and Manchester are so different. Manchester in particular I would describe as a metropolis and the people that live there are proud of their cutting edge, crest of a wave attitudes. There’s a saying there: ‘What happens in Manchester today, happens in London tomorrow.’ I just don’t feel like Sheffield shares this mentality. People sneer and turn their noses up at change. I think that’s fundamentally what sets Sheffield apart from Manchester. People are proud of it almost as they’re scared of losing their ‘identity’ whereas people in Manchester feel that being open and receptive to new ideas IS their identity.

There’s got to be a reason that Sheffield performs really poorly on the league table of Northern cities in terms of investment, tourism, employment etc. I think it’s linked to how generally tight people are.

I worked on a cocktail bar at Tramlines festival a few weeks ago, and it was by far the quietest bar on the whole site. People were literally walking up, seeing the prices and laughing in our faces. I know it’s not cheap but I’ve worked at festivals all over the country and never had a reaction like that.

Does anyone have any insight and want to discuss it without getting upset about it?

You're right. We go to Manchester for some good shopping, good hotels and good food. There is good food in Sheffield, but God help the poor bastards who try and produce it and sell it. "How fucking much? Geeor!"

We are a northern working class city with a mind set of 2p a bus ride and no more. Cars are for rich bastards and need to be kept out of the city centre cos that's where buses should be. Trees? Fuck your trees. We don't have trees in Arbourthorne so why should you? Only posh people live around trees and they're posh tory bastards.

It's a tragedy which is borne out of decades of stifling civic socialism. Leeds and Manchester were driven by the wool and rag trade which looked outwards and was built on individual effort. Even in recent years they have had socialist councils. However they embraced trade and profit as they were not protected by a nationalised industry. We were bounded by the nationalised steel and mining industries, always looking inward.

You can hear it now on Toby Bastard Foster show or Rony Old Twat Robinson. Posh is to be derided and demeaned. "Look at them over in Hallam. In a single bus ride they have double the income and 10 years more life expectancy". Don't ever ask why and try and improve. Just sneer. "Ah went darn that London and ad ta pay £4.00 for un half o bitter" So fucking what? It's an expensive city.

Posh (i.e. anyone with more money or better aspiration) simply isn't socialist. Sheffield has lived with it's self appointed image of the biggest village in the UK always looking inwards for as long as I can remember. Lots to be commended in terms of solidarity and community, but fuck all going forward as a modern commercial centre.

Rant Over.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Just seen a photo of new prices at the lane. £5 a pint, £2.50 for a soft drink

That’s ridiculous! It’s just encouraging people to drink soft drinks!

 

[I should coco]

WTF are you talking about. I've said (for the fourth time now and you're still not fucking listening) that our present squad will be nowhere near £60m but will be when Wilder upgrades it. Just for a minute consider who is in our squad, off the top of my head the likes of Lundstram, Wright, Bryan, Clarke, Moore, Holmes, Carruthers, Verrips, Freeman K, Henegan won't even be on £20k pw, thats nearly a third of our senior staff. The bulk of the rest will be on £20-40k pw and an elite of 3 or 4 players will be on more than £50k pw. There will definitely be no superstars in there on superstar money. Do the sums yourself. Once Wilder gets rid of some of this lot he'll be replacing them with better (and costlier) players. Do I have to spell this out in any more detail?

Blah blah blah.

You've flamed the OP on wages and won't even take a charity bet, but keep chuntering on about "nowhere near £60m".

You seem to keep repeating the same rubbish together with increasing levels of abuse. Your opinions aren't facts and tedious repetition does not make them so.

I'm out
(FWIW; dummy status = bored shitless).

 

[Tom Bott]

Bettis said on football focus the shirt sponsor deal is worth more than the £11 million we got for Brooks.

Over how many years though ?

The figures below don't account for sleeve sponsors, if a separate company has purchased that space specifically, although Alex Miller notes that the combined values of Premier League clubs' deals for this is £51.8m for 2019/20.

Overall, the estimated worth of the league’s principal shirt sponsorship deals stands at £349.1 million p.a - a £23.5 million increase from 2018/19.

1. Manchester United - £64 million (Chevrolet)

2. Manchester City - £45 million (Etihad)

3. Arsenal - £40 million (Fly Emirates)

4. Chelsea - £40 million (Yokohama)

5. Liverpool - £40 million (Standard Chartered)

6. Tottenham - £35 million (AIA)

7. West Ham - £10 million (Betway)

8. Everton - £9.6 million (SportPesa)

9. Wolves - £8 million (ManBetX)

10. Southampton - £7.5 million (LD Sports)

11. Burnley - £7.5 million (LoveBet)

12. Crystal Palace - £6.5 million (ManBetX)

13. Newcastle - £6.5 million (Fun88)

14. Watford - £6.5 million (Sportsbet.io)

15. Aston Villa - £6 million (W88)

16. Bournemouth - £5 million (M88)

17. Leicester - £4 million (King Power)

18. Sheffield United - £3.5 million (USG)

19. Norwich - £3 million (Dafabet)

20. Brighton - £1.5 million (American Express)


Read more at https://www.fourfourtwo.com/feature...verpool-chelsea-tottenham#8g6zoGF7usAgLYmO.99

 

[Tom Bott]

You're talking like an idiot.

The USG sponsorship was widely reported to be around £7m this year by the way.

See my post above and if you can provide evidence that USG sponsorship is 'around £ 7 million' PER YEAR, then I will stand corrected.

Only when the accounts are presented will we see the true figures, until then we are all subject to the 'widely reported' figures, you refer to.

 

[Tom Bott]

Take a look at the other 95% of the post and discuss that if you want to do something constructive for a change instead of trying to snitch someone up.

My small minded Sheffield based mentality advice would be, that if you wish to call people an idiot then at least offer some proof of your figures.
You claim that they are 'widely reported' so post some links/quotes other wise you figures are just estimates/guesstimates/assumptions Facebook fake news.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

You're right. We go to Manchester for some good shopping, good hotels and good food. There is good food in Sheffield, but God help the poor bastards who try and produce it and sell it. "How fucking much? Geeor!"

We are a northern working class city with a mind set of 2p a bus ride and no more. Cars are for rich bastards and need to be kept out of the city centre cos that's where buses should be. Trees? Fuck your trees. We don't have trees in Arbourthorne so why should you? Only posh people live around trees and they're posh tory bastards.

It's a tragedy which is borne out of decades of stifling civic socialism. Leeds and Manchester were driven by the wool and rag trade which looked outwards and was built on individual effort. Even in recent years they have had socialist councils. However they embraced trade and profit as they were not protected by a nationalised industry. We were bounded by the nationalised steel and mining industries, always looking inward.

You can hear it now on Toby Bastard Foster show or Rony Old Twat Robinson. Posh is to be derided and demeaned. "Look at them over in Hallam. In a single bus ride they have double the income and 10 years more life expectancy". Don't ever ask why and try and improve. Just sneer. "Ah went darn that London and ad ta pay £4.00 for un half o bitter" So fucking what? It's an expensive city.

Posh (i.e. anyone with more money or better aspiration) simply isn't socialist. Sheffield has lived with it's self appointed image of the biggest village in the UK always looking inwards for as long as I can remember. Lots to be commended in terms of solidarity and community, but fuck all going forward as a modern commercial centre.

Rant Over.

Firth Browns, Vickers, English Steel, Sheffield Smelting Company, Atlas etc were not nationalised companies. They embraced trade and profit and like cotton and wool were built on the suffering of the workers like in all the big northern cities. They failed, like cotton and wool failed. It has nothing to do with civic socialism, which was actually started in Birmingham by Joseph Chamberlain, who at the time was a Liberal. Sheffield is like it is because it isn't and never has been a commercial centre. When we made stuff in bulk manually we could compete and were a thriving go-ahead city. Now we don't we can't. Bad decisions have been made, but not because of civic socialism. I agree that it's inward looking but would be whoever is in power. I now live in Barnsley (a very nice part out towards Penistone) and the similarities are striking (no pun intended!). One is just a big or little version of the other attitude wise. It's the insularity that kills, not the politics!

 

[Snowman]

Firth Browns, Vickers, English Steel, Sheffield Smelting Company, Atlas etc were not nationalised companies. They embraced trade and profit and like cotton and wool were built on the suffering of the workers like in all the big northern cities. They failed, like cotton and wool failed. It has nothing to do with civic socialism, which was actually started in Birmingham by Joseph Chamberlain, who at the time was a Liberal. Sheffield is like it is because it isn't and never has been a commercial centre. When we made stuff in bulk manually we could compete and were a thriving go-ahead city. Now we don't we can't. Bad decisions have been made, but not because of civic socialism. I agree that it's inward looking but would be whoever is in power. I now live in Barnsley (a very nice part out towards Penistone) and the similarities are striking (no pun intended!). One is just a big or little version of the other attitude wise. It's the insularity that kills, not the politics!

Point well made. Perhaps the term civic socialism was not correctly used. However, why does this city seem to have this little village mentality? Are we a city where the vast majority of the populace had such a reliance on low paid manual labour that the major commercial retailers didn't see us as a profitable base? What made the BBC go to Manchester? Why did the ITV franchise end up in Leeds? What attracted the Banking and Insurance sector to Leeds so that it can claim to be the largest outside London?

Is it through historical accident and our grimy industrial past that we are an unattractive commercial proposition or didn't our politicians try hard enough to embrace the new world?

Still, onwards and upwards with the Blades and in ten years time we can look forward to bringing the Champions League back to the four square mile Prince Abdullah Bramall Lane Commercial and Retail experience with on site 7 star hotel and spa and the worlds first indoor golf course. The Blades dragging Sheffield kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

Bloody insomnia.

 

[metalblade]

and no matter what anyone says Leeds is a shithole.
[/QUOTE]

No it's not

It wasn't good 35 years ago but since then it's come on in leaps and bounds and left Sheffield light years behind.
[/QUOTE]
Really? The last time I was in Leeds all the houses had wrought iron gates over the doors and windows to keep the burglars out, or maybe the whole city is an open prison. You don't see that in Sheffield, even down Fir Vale.

 

[FlamingLip]

What you're saying is similar to what a mate of mine says, he blames it on voting for labour "because your dad voted labour all his life".. which seemed to be the mantra when I was 17..


To Quote Robbo, an Arsenal fan.. ffs.

"Manchester play it differently. They'll flip between parties and vote for each side, this makes the politicians work for their votes in that city, unlike in Sheffield where labour can sit back do nothing and watch the votes roll in.. in Manchester what's promised gets delivered because they know they'll be voted out if they don't, so the city prospers.. they've realised that all politicians are the same act the same and do the same, theyre all from the same schools, so they play them against each other to the benefit of the city"

So, as for the cocktails..

The festival thing is easily explained, somebody said it was around a tenner for a gin and tonic in the park and you can get 2 pints for that, that's how we think generally we divide the cost by the amount received, I did this at tramlines in West Street live by buying three bottles of Corona for 5 quid and making 2 pints out of them, saving 4 quid on the previous round we had in the forum, soon we were all drinking Corona, when you're out all weekend you need to stretch you money as far as it'll go.

As for United, excellent value for money across the board, those complaining should remember we've just spent north of 50 million this closed season, and for their season ticket money they are getting the best football this country has to offer, oh and some just want to find a problem, no matter how small it is it'll do for them, some just can't be happy..

You can always..
Not buy the programme.
Not use the bars inside the ground.
Not buy the replica shirts.
"Etc"

It's called "choice"

I went TL - could justify higher drink prices because a.) camdens is superior to typical festival carlsberg and b.) ticket for event was pence compared to other events. Fantastic few days. What I'd say regarding small queues - largely down to good event management. The place was a sell out.

Re Sheffield mindset - i love the city and people and purposefully moved back. But totally agree with the comments on mindset. Me and the lass often jump on train to Leeds, Manc or York for a night/wkend when we fancy something more upmarket. I wonder how many from those cities go to sheff (other than to see family/students)?

Comparing Christmas markets is also a good modern city barometer. Sheffield is like old mid week cattle gathering in Penistone.

 

[metalblade]

I see a lot on this thread say Sheffield is like a collection of villages with a village mentality and I can see where they are coming from, what I don't understand is why we constantly put the village idiots in charge.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Blah blah blah.

You've flamed the OP on wages and won't even take a charity bet, but keep chuntering on about "nowhere near £60m".

You seem to keep repeating the same rubbish together with increasing levels of abuse. Your opinions aren't facts and tedious repetition does not make them so.

I'm out
(FWIW; dummy status = bored shitless).

I gave you a breakdown of the salary ranges applicable at the Lane. In my opinion of course. You reply yet again with the accusation of me repeating the same rubbish without either challenging them or coming up with an opinion of your own. You're just a classic fucking troll. Maybe consider changing your user name to Coco the Clown.

 

[CrookesBlade]

Manchester city council has 97 seats. 92 are Labour. Leeds city council has 57 Labour seats out of 99. Big majorities. Manchester has been Labour for longer than just about anywhere. I'm not sticking up for Labour, but there are other reasons why Leeds and Manchester have thrived and are dynamic, whilst Sheffield (except around S2 4SU) is er....less so! Manchester and Leeds have always been commercial money cities, as well as making stuff. We just tended to make stuff (my dad always said the only thing they made in Leeds was money - not true but amusing). When cities started to make less stuff, they still had the money commercial side to fall back on. Sheffield didn't. Combine this with some less than inspiring decision making (Student Games, Meadowhall) and you have where we are now. It's not about party politics, it's about vision and planning, and sometimes luck. Portsmouth, a sizeable port and industrial city, has mainly had Tory councils, and it's a shithole. Nottingham is Tory from time to time and is lively and thriving! Sheffield is great though, and I'm very proud to be a Sheffielder. It has character in spades, great beer, pubs and breweries, and a Premier league football club. And Hendos!!!

Good post. Listening to some people you'd assume that the city exists in a bubble completely unaffected by central government policy or national/international economic reality.

Sheffield is, like many cities of the same size is a mixed bag.

 

[bypassblade]

Don't get me wrong. I also love Sheffield. I left in 1969 to go to College in Leeds. Sheffield was a lively thriving city with plenty of cash sloshing about. Leeds was a proper dump. On the way in to the bus station I saw a shack selling horse meat - that's how bad Leeds was in 1969. It was grimy city whereas Sheffield was just the opposite. How things have changed.

I think that's an honest assessment mate Pete, Sheffield has stood still & Leeds expanded can't explain but never easy when there and been loads with work and footy.

 

[Blackheath Blade]

Would give you 10 likes if I could. Off to see Blackheath vs Richmond tomorrow then the trek to Sheffield on Sunday.

Broke my heart to leave Blackheath (I had a place on Shooters Hill) to move to Welling / Bexleyheath.

Absolutely loved it there and Greenwich too.

 

[hidesbehindapseudonym]

Broke my heart to leave Blackheath (I had a place on Shooters Hill) to move to Welling / Bexleyheath.

Absolutely loved it there and Greenwich too.

Our three boys live there. One at St Germans Place and the others on Coleraine Road. All three play for Blackheath and all 3, more importantly, are Bladesmen.

 

[Tezza1889]

I went TL - could justify higher drink prices because a.) camdens is superior to typical festival carlsberg and b.) ticket for event was pence compared to other events. Fantastic few days. What I'd say regarding small queues - largely down to good event management. The place was a sell out.

Re Sheffield mindset - i love the city and people and purposefully moved back. But totally agree with the comments on mindset. Me and the lass often jump on train to Leeds, Manc or York for a night/wkend when we fancy something more upmarket. I wonder how many from those cities go to sheff (other than to see family/students)?

Comparing Christmas markets is also a good modern city barometer. Sheffield is like old mid week cattle gathering in Penistone.

I’ll second that mate regarding the beer, I’ve paid fortunes for carlsberg piss.. £5 a pint at Wembley fanzone.. Camden was £4:50 in the city.. so only 50p more in the park, the festival is really decent value if you get early bird tickets..

 

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[Oreyt]

 

[Willglynning]

If we're losing lower-income fans that's a loss to our club and our ethos. Some will say 'that's tough' and 'so be it' but for me that's a shame, I wouldn't want us to become like Manchester United in that regard (taking it to the extreme but you will see my point).

Who are suggesting we are losing fans to? It's not like Wednesday tickets are cheaper than ours and how many people do you think are going to start supporting Barnsley or Rotherham because our ticket prices have gone up?

 

[Bearlie]

Dont buy it ,I wont .

 

[Scarebus]

Who are suggesting we are losing fans to? It's not like Wednesday tickets are cheaper than ours and how many people do you think are going to start supporting Barnsley or Rotherham because our ticket prices have gone up?

Apparently I have to pay £45 a year to watch Wilders pre match interviews.

I'm off to Staveley Miners.