Neil Warnock

[Blade56]

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Can you imagine Adkins giving a bollocking like this? Me neither...

Has Adkins ever had to? Scunny - foundations put in place by Piggy Laws, Adkins then rode the crest of a wave, getting them up. Admittedly he had to replace some pretty stellar players for this level, & his achievement squeezing them back up took some serious doing (& he deserves all the kudos he gets for it). But, as I say, the foundations were firmly in place, & expectations not exactly sky-high. Again, not denigrating his achievements at Southampton, far from it, he did spectacularly well there. But it was reaping the harvest while the going was good - not having to deal with adversity at all.

Then, moving on. At Reading, he hits the buffers at a club on the slide. At United...


No, I couldn't see him giving a bollocking like that, nothing like it. And it's been needed, most definitely, many times this season.

Admittedly, Adkins is a decent man & a consensual manager, a different type. But will he seriously get the chance to succeed the way he wants to do it next season? - plenty of these permanently injureds/bad characters will still be under contract.

 

[sitwell]

We don't need someone who will only do it for a year.

We need the new improved Warnock, Mr Wilder.

The problem with Warnock being DoF is that the players know it's really him in charge and they can do what they like because Warnock would take over. Needs one boss only, especially in the position we are in.

I actually don't think that would be the case ,Warnock has himself alluded to the fact that it is the type of roll that would suit him so he would be semi retired and not spend too much time at the club ,certainly not doing his hair on fire routine on the touchline but a Fergie type fatherly eye from the stand and more time with Sharon and the tractor. Wilder would have to have the final say ,but he could certainly use Warnock and his thick skin when needed.

 

[blade too long]

Be backing him still if hed made a better fist of it .but Barnsley have shown it was more than possible to get into thd play offs with a pile of crap

 

[sitwell]

I can see the very real nightmare scenario of Adkins getting sacked/resigning, succeeding wherever else he goes next, and the next manager we get having to contend with the utter shambles this club is right now. And the process repeats itself indefinitely.
This pattern has to stop, he needs the summer and first three months of next season to assemble a team that can be called his. Then any criticism can be truly justified.

Listen mate I would have agreed 100% with you up to a few weeks ago and I am deffo not a sacking and changing type. Wilson and Clough would never have got the push from me. But time doesn't come into it when you look at the state the club is in ,it almost David Weir groundhogday. I know its a massive decision and not one that will be taken anyway ,but imagine in November and we are in the bottom half of the table with a similar line up ,what happens then when we a new boss cant get anymore players in or out ?

 

[Sean Thornton]

The clubs a shambles from top to bottom yet some would have Warnock as a part time DOF? Part time?

We need someone with a hunger not someone chasing a bit of red diesel money.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

He took two clubs out of this league and upwards. Clubs from two ends of the spectrum: An unfancied, permanently struggling Scunthorpe and a fairly big, well supported club in Southampton. He's no mug, and nobody just stops being a good manager.
The playing staff at United are the biggest bunch of nomarks ever to grace the club, many of whom were here before him. Blaming Nigel Adkins alone for the clubs current situation is ridiculously short-sighted.

That's what I think but Woolhead, Hammond?

To many questions that I can't answer.

Glad I'm not Kevin.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Indeed. A punch in the bollocks is still a punch in the bollocks, even if you get a Creme Egg after.

Where do you go on a Saturday night?

Bet even Dazzer not been there.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Listen mate I would have agreed 100% with you up to a few weeks ago and I am deffo not a sacking and changing type. Wilson and Clough would never have got the push from me. But time doesn't come into it when you look at the state the club is in ,it almost David Weir groundhogday. I know its a massive decision and not one that will be taken anyway ,but imagine in November and we are in the bottom half of the table with a similar line up ,what happens then when we a new boss cant get anymore players in or out ?

If we are in that position in November then there will be a strong case for sacking him, of course there will.
But I can't imagine that any other manager will be able to improve our situation whilst most of these toxic players and the loser culture that goes with them are still here.

It all hinges on this summer, if he can't put together something like a decent squad and get rid of these clowns then he'll have to be on his way. But he at least deserves a summer, in my view at least.

 

[SB_90]

I'm still in the adkins in brigade, but I miss the Warnock days, this is team is so far from that team in terms of fight & battling. as we gone from the bullies to being bullied that team in 02/03 didn't have the greatest talent but they always fought til the end never gave up, I can guarantee them wigan, bury & burton performances would never happened. because after wigan they would've been scared stiff to go back in the dressing room

 

[LoughboroBlade]

but imagine in November and we are in the bottom half of the table with a similar line up ,what happens then when we a new boss cant get anymore players in or out ?

How about we give him till November to see if that happens, rather than assume it'll happen despite him having the chance to reshape the squad this summer? The gamble of starting from square one again with a new manager is greater than sticking with him till Christmas in my view. There is absolutely nobody feasible out there that is a guaranteed promotion-winner for us next season – everyone's to some degree a gamble.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

How about we give him till November to see if that happens, rather than assume it'll happen despite him having the chance to reshape the squad this summer? The gamble of starting from square one again with a new manager is greater than sticking with him till Christmas in my view. There is absolutely nobody feasible out there that is a guaranteed promotion-winner for us next season – everyone's to some degree a gamble.

I'm fed up of sacking managers and we can have an almighty clear out and have a guy with a good cv rebuild but...


...his pre match interview on RS today compared to Warnocks, fucking miles short of where he should be,

 

[Mendi]

May be in the summer, we can try and bring him back home.

 

[sitwell]

If we are in that position in November then there will be a strong case for sacking him, of course there will.
But I can't imagine that any other manager will be able to improve our situation whilst most of these toxic players and the loser culture that goes with them are still here.

It all hinges on this summer, if he can't put together something like a decent squad and get rid of these clowns then he'll have to be on his way. But he at least deserves a summer, in my view at least.

How about we give him till November to see if that happens, rather than assume it'll happen despite him having the chance to reshape the squad this summer? The gamble of starting from square one again with a new manager is greater than sticking with him till Christmas in my view. There is absolutely nobody feasible out there that is a guaranteed promotion-winner for us next season – everyone's to some degree a gamble.

The problem being that he will bring in or re-employ many new players in the summer , which a new manager may not want ,and judging by his acquisitions so far its not looking brilliant. Clean slate in the summer plus the rest of the season to look at the players in the club ,would be far more advantageous surely. I have been to about 90% of the games this season and honestly only at Peterboro early on have I ever thought things were looking good. Hope that wasn't his Weirs Notts County game.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Again, not denigrating his achievements at Southampton, far from it, he did spectacularly well there. But it was reaping the harvest while the going was good - not having to deal with adversity at all.

This wasn't some sort of easy take-over-a-flying-team gig he landed. Southampton, like us this season, were the bookies favourites to go up – with all the pressures and expectations that entails. Pardew was shifted on soon in. They had a start that was well below expectations and were towards the bottom at the end of September. They only got into the automatic places after Christmas, and were in an almighty battle to catch Huddersfield and Brighton in the automatic places. As we knew from the season after that, that's a seriously high pressure scenario – and by the end of it they grabbed 2nd spot. Big club, big expectations, he found a way to meet them. This season has been dismal, but let's not suggest that promotion wasn't the result of a decent fight.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

...his pre match interview on RS today compared to Warnocks, fucking miles short of where he should be,

Yes, his media interviews have been so terrible this year I'm considering selling my season ticket to Radio Sheffield.

 

[Tyler Durden]

The problem being that he will bring in or re-employ many new players in the summer , which a new manager may not want ,and judging by his acquisitions so far its not looking brilliant. Clean slate in the summer plus the rest of the season to look at the players in the club ,would be far more advantageous surely. I have been to about 90% of the games this season and honestly only at Peterboro early on have I ever thought things were looking good. Hope that wasn't his Weirs Notts County game.

His signings have brought mixed results, he signed our current top scorer and Sammon initially showed promise before nosediving terribly (interesting to note that the longer a player stays in this squad the worse they become, Brayford being the latest case in point, which points to the poisonous culture in this team). Woolford and Hammond.....I can't defend those, terrible signings.

But he now has the advantage of seeing what this team is like over the course of the season, which is why I believe/hope the summer will yield better results.

 

[sitwell]

His signings have brought mixed results, he signed our current top scorer and Sammon initially showed promise before nosediving terribly (interesting to note that the longer a player stays in this squad the worse they become, Brayford being the latest case in point, which points to the poisonous culture in this team). Woolford and Hammond.....I can't defend those, terrible signings.

But he now has the advantage of seeing what this team is like over the course of the season, which is why I believe/hope the summer will yield better results.

Why is it the culture of the team rather than the manager though ? You say he has had a full season to see the team ,when it has taken you about a doze games to see Woolford and Hammond. Sharp was hardly managerial genius to be fair either. Just being devils advocate but its not difficult to shoot him down althoughI know you are just giving the alternative point of view.

 

[Grappler]

I've always been a fan of Warnock, but let's not pretend all the forwards he signed worked out. Horsfield, Hayles, Onuora, Shelton immediately spring to mind. We have lots of memories of strikers that turned out brilliantly for us under him, but he did sign about 80.

100% true mate, but he did lead us into the Prem, and the season that he did it, we never went below second all season, winning home and away, week, after week, after, week, happy days!

 

[Dkc]

What a fucking disgraceful shithole that Leppings Lane end is. What must away fans think approaching that pile of shit?

 

[Barney]

His signings have brought mixed results, he signed our current top scorer and Sammon initially showed promise before nosediving terribly (interesting to note that the longer a player stays in this squad the worse they become, Brayford being the latest case in point, which points to the poisonous culture in this team). Woolford and Hammond.....I can't defend those, terrible signings.

But he now has the advantage of seeing what this team is like over the course of the season, which is why I believe/hope the summer will yield better results.

If you get in a contractor and he bodges you up a bungalow, would you then give him license to build you a three story house?

 

[Tyler Durden]

Why is it the culture of the team rather than the manager though ? You say he has had a full season to see the team ,when it has taken you about a doze games to see Woolford and Hammond. Sharp was hardly managerial genius to be fair either. Just being devils advocate but its not difficult to shoot him down althoughI know you are just giving the alternative point of view.

It's the culture of the team because the second half of last season brought the same gutless, inept performances in the league. It's the same problem under two very different managers.
You only have to look at the disciplinary issues and the billy big bollocks attitude displayed on Twitter by McNulty and DDG to see that this lot are a law unto themselves, with zero consideration for the club or its followers.
Sometimes when there's a problem with the team you can point to the manager, sometimes its down to what goes on upstairs, but for me more than anything else it's the players in our case. I hate this team.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

What a fucking disgraceful shithole that Leppings Lane end is. What must away fans think approaching that pile of shit?

Should have flattened and rebuilt after April 1989.
In fact, the whole fuckin' blot on the landscape should be erased.

 

[sitwell]

So do you get rid of them all or try just some and re educate the team ? It will be impossible to find out who all the troublemakers are.

 

[Bladesince59]

We don't need someone who will only do it for a year.

We need the new improved Warnock, Mr Wilder.

The problem with Warnock being DoF is that the players know it's really him in charge and they can do what they like because Warnock would take over. Needs one boss only, especially in the position we are in.

but not na

 

[northsomersetblade]

If you get in a contractor and he bodges you up a bungalow, would you then give him license to build you a three story house?

If said contractor builds three nice three story houses elsewhere, and then struggles when trying to make a bungalow on a swamp, where many other contractors have already failed, while using bricks made from half baked turds, do you sack him, or see what he can do on a better site, and give him proper materials to work with?

 

[Grappler]

The first multi racial band in the UK

 

[Eskimo]

Remember the quote "Neil wasn't suitable for our Premiership ambitions" ?

Then we appointed Bryan Robson. Another McCabe gem. I still think he's got something up his sleeve that will top all his mental decisions. This new not signing players theory is a cracking start

Of course McCabe appointed Warnock too

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

How many piggies are saying in their heads tonight;

Fuckin Warnock.


Thanks Neil

As the city starts to wake half of it has the first thought in their heads....



....fuckin Warnock