Movement.

[Sheffsteel]

Cant see Villa going for him after signing Wesley to replace Abraham.

I would imagine Sevilla will only go for him if they lose Ben Yedder to Man U. I don't really see that one happening and will only happen if Lukaku moves.

From the information from RC I think (total guess work) that they are waiting to see what comes of the Ben Yedder to Man U deal. Can't really blame Maupay for wanting to wait out for a potential move to Sevilla over United.

I think this one could drag on for a while.

Agree with that.

I’ve been on the Villa forum and most of their fans don’t think there’ll go after Maupay.
They say that Dean Smith prefers to play 1 up front and their first choice striker will be Wesley.
However they do want a backup striker but believe Brentford’s asking price is too high for someone that would be their backup.
They seem to prefer Danial Sturridge, he was backup at Liverpool, so would probably accept it at Villa too
And let’s nor forget that Sturridge is from Birmingham, so would be closer to his friends and family.
He also started his football career at the Aston Villa Academy, so it’s like he’s going home.

 

[Lmaobob]

Problem with Maupay isn’t with Brentford it’s with the agent but our camp are still very confident a deal will be reached. As I stated before the interest in Osborn is real and gathering pace. Not going to post for the sake of it but will when I have concrete news.

top shagger, Richard

 

[ekke287]

My thoughts exactly!
What other industry would operate like this?
It's verging on criminal the way these parasites work!

It's not unique to football. Recruitment agencies will charge a fee to the hiring company when they find the right candidate for a job, usually as a percentage of the starting salary.

It's the same in the entertainment industry, casting agents organise the auditions and take a percentage fee of the salary.

Agents are essentially saving the club the time they would spend looking for interested / suitable players. The issue is that in the football industry the salaries are so ridiculous that agents are actively holding back their assets to increase the overall fee taken. Waiting a couple of days might add half a million on to a player, the kind of fee that mere mortals can only dream of.

At the end of the day, 10% of 15 million is significantly more than 10% of 14 million.

 

[FriethBlade]

The agent is doing his job. What will we have offered Maupay wages wise 30k per annum, 40k absolute tops ?

Whatever that will be massive for us. However all it needs is an established premiership team to come in and he could easily get another 20k per week.

I doubt the agent is trying to bump the fee up hes trying to maximise the players earnings of which he will be on a percentage.

 

[S15Blade]

I don't think he'll come for 30k a year to be fair

 

[robbiez666]

More constipation than movement

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Read it the other day. It was hard going.

I'll reinforce that .

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

It's not unique to football. Recruitment agencies will charge a fee to the hiring company when they find the right candidate for a job, usually as a percentage of the starting salary.

It's the same in the entertainment industry, casting agents organise the auditions and take a percentage fee of the salary.

Agents are essentially saving the club the time they would spend looking for interested / suitable players. The issue is that in the football industry the salaries are so ridiculous that agents are actively holding back their assets to increase the overall fee taken. Waiting a couple of days might add half a million on to a player, the kind of fee that mere mortals can only dream of.

At the end of the day, 10% of 15 million is significantly more than 10% of 14 million.

I accept your first two examples, but your comment that "Agents are essentially saving the club the time they would spend looking for interested/suitable players" I would disagree with simply because people in the game like CWAK already know what players they want/need so don't need some parasite involved who's only objective is to line their own pocket under the guise of 'doing the best for their clients'!

 

[LJBlade]

They are a problem for everybody but they are a problem every club has to deal with when it comes to transfers. Doubt agents become particularly pesky when it comes to dealing with United.

Which is weird because so far you're the only person who has said that they do become particularly pesky, though I assume you were being sarcastic. Nobody else has said that they're 'particularly' pesky for United, doesn't mean that Maupay's agent isn't making things difficult for us.

 

[blade67]

Wholeheartedly agree.

The attitude was that clubs held the upper hand years ago.

Now the amount money spent on agent fees every year is scandalous.

However, whilst not exactly the same, it's similar in my industry. We pay the employee and the agent for the privelige of them working for us on a non-permanent basis.

Greedy football club owners are reeping what they have sowed I'm afraid.

They spent decades ripping off poor working class lads cause they could. So working class lads started employing lawyers and ex footballers who's been through the mill to do their talking. Once that cat is out of the bag you are bound to get some who play both ends against the middle.

In the end, in an entertainment industry, the entertainers should get most of the money.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

Which is weird because so far you're the only person who has said that they do become particularly pesky, though I assume you were being sarcastic. Nobody else has said that they're 'particularly' pesky for United, doesn't mean that Maupay's agent isn't making things difficult for us.

Could be wrong but I thought McCabe had previously blamed pesky agents for some of our transfer issues. Merely making the point that agents do their thing for every transfer for every club.

 

[blade67]

They're a problem for everybody. At this precise moment I am looking at an invoice from an agent to a Championship club for negotiating the early termination of a player's contract. Under the agreement the player received the full amount due on the remainder of his contract (and signed for another club the very next day).

The agent trousered £184,800 + VAT from the club for what looks like a very quick conversation.

This is a very interesting post. How come you come across such documents?

Given the absolute rammell I've had to read to come across this, I think I deserve an answer

​

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Greedy football club owners are reeping what they have sowed I'm afraid.

They spent decades ripping off poor working class lads cause they could. So working class lads started employing lawyers and ex footballers who's been through the mill to do their talking. Once that cat is out of the bag you are bound to get some who play both ends against the middle.

In the end, in an entertainment industry, the entertainers should get most of the money.

Brian Epstein will be turning in his grave reading that last bit.

 

[LJBlade]

Could be wrong but I thought McCabe had previously blamed pesky agents for some of our transfer issues. Merely making the point that agents do their thing for every transfer for every club.

He has previously blamed agents for some of our transfer issues. I don't believe he has ever said that it's only United who have these issues however.

Either way, what McCabe has said previously has little relation to what's been discussed on this thread, unless you're suggesting that McCabe has made the same claim about the Maupay transfer?

 

[bromtom]

He has previously blamed agents for some of our transfer issues. I don't believe he has ever said that it's only United who have these issues however.

Either way, what McCabe has said previously has little relation to what's been discussed on this thread, unless you're suggesting that McCabe has made the same claim about the Maupay transfer?

Wilder said in that interview he did alongside Bettis that agents had bent the club over, and that when he came in he was given carte blanche to appoint people who with him would create a new atmosphere and set the tone of negotiations so that it doesn't continue.

Think there was also something mentioned in court about McCabe being irate at Clough or summat because of how willing he was to bend over for agents and pay big wages.

 

[LondonBlade89]

Wilder said in that interview he did alongside Bettis that agents had bent the club over, and that when he came in he was given carte blanche to appoint people who with him would create a new atmosphere and set the tone of negotiations so that it doesn't continue.

Think there was also something mentioned in court about McCabe being irate at Clough or summat because of how willing he was to bend over for agents and pay big wages.

I think it was pretty clear from that Bleacher Report video & article that Wilder knows he has to play the game with agents, but when push comes to shove he won't be mugged off.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

He has previously blamed agents for some of our transfer issues. I don't believe he has ever said that it's only United who have these issues however.

Either way, what McCabe has said previously has little relation to what's been discussed on this thread, unless you're suggesting that McCabe has made the same claim about the Maupay transfer?

Wasting your time LJ, you are trying to reason with a United hater with a set agenda

 

[norfolkblade]

Read mixed reviews, myself.

It's not a book for all weather's. Can't read it if it's too cold, can't read if it's raining. Still, gives you a solid foundation to build on when you can read it though.

 

[Flatcap]

To avoid having to scan through all the bullshit ITK posts 100 times a day, might I suggest simply clicking on RC's profile and stalking his recent activity section once an hour for the next month? Make sure it's on the hour, every hour though or you might miss the man, the myth, the legend...

 

[Boxer Blade]

It's not unique to football. Recruitment agencies will charge a fee to the hiring company when they find the right candidate for a job, usually as a percentage of the starting salary.

It's the same in the entertainment industry, casting agents organise the auditions and take a percentage fee of the salary.

Agents are essentially saving the club the tims

It's not unique to football. Recruitment agencies will charge a fee to the hiring company when they find the right candidate for a job, usually as a percentage of the starting salary.

It's the same in the entertainment industry, casting agents organise the auditions and take a percentage fee of the salary.

Agents are essentially saving the club the time they would spend looking for interested / suitable players. The issue is that in the football industry the salaries are so ridiculous that agents are actively holding back their assets to increase the overall fee taken. Waiting a couple of days might add half a million on to a player, the kind of fee that mere mortals can only dream of.

At the end of the day, 10% of 15 million is significantly more than 10% of 14 million.

Can't argue about your maths thete
e they would spend looking for interested / suitable players. The issue is that in the football industry the salaries are so ridiculous that agents are actively holding back their assets to increase the overall fee taken. Waiting a couple of days might add half a million on to a player, the kind of fee that mere mortals can only dream of.

At the end of the day, 10% of 15 million is significantly more than 10% of 14 million.

can't argue with your maths summary there ek, do you know that four out of three people are no good at maths, unbelievable?

 

[Pedro's Winger]

He has previously blamed agents for some of our transfer issues. I don't believe he has ever said that it's only United who have these issues however.

Either way, what McCabe has said previously has little relation to what's been discussed on this thread, unless you're suggesting that McCabe has made the same claim about the Maupay transfer?

I would suspect McCabe will still have some say over whether we sign Maupay or anyone else for that matter and our past transfer history isn't a particularly happy one.
Agents will be a pain in any and every transfer but a necessary evil as some have pointed out. Pesky or otherwise every club just has to get on with it.
Don't think any of that is particularly contentious.

 

[LJBlade]

I would suspect McCabe will still have some say over whether we sign Maupay or anyone else for that matter and our past transfer history isn't a particularly happy one.
Agents will be a pain in any and every transfer but a necessary evil as some have pointed out. Pesky or otherwise every club just has to get on with it.
Don't think any of that is particularly contentious.

Nope, it's not at all contentious, I don't think anyone has ever said anything to the contrary, which is why it's strange that you're pointing it out.

I know you have a serious disliking for McCabe after he turned you down for a role at the Lane but bringing his previous comments about agents (which you even seem to agree with) feels a little unnecessary.

Our past transfer history isn't a particularly happy one? I'm not sure how you quantify that really. We didn't seem to do such a bad job last summer.

 

[Bladesman]

To avoid having to scan through all the bullshit ITK posts 100 times a day, might I suggest simply clicking on RC's profile and stalking his recent activity section once an hour for the next month? Make sure it's on the hour, every hour though or you might miss the man, the myth, the legend...

Yes and when all else fails call him a Wednesday fan and say he is a lover of gay dwarf porn.

 

[Th!stledo]

I found this article interesting reading:

Who Pay's The Footballer's Agent - Football Agent (Intermediary) Blog - Chiron Sports and Media

The general issues surrounding who pays the football agent begs the question as to whether a players interest are always being best represented.

footballagentblog.chironsportsandmedia.com

 

[Pinchy]

The agent is doing his job. What will we have offered Maupay wages wise 30k per annum, 40k absolute tops ?

Whatever that will be massive for us. However all it needs is an established premiership team to come in and he could easily get another 20k per week.

I doubt the agent is trying to bump the fee up hes trying to maximise the players earnings of which he will be on a percentage.

Much as I said on another post, though, it’s the overall package that we will be interested in. Whether it’s the fee or wages we will have a global sum in the ‘buy Maupay for three years’ envelope. How it’s split will be of passing interest only. One of our primary objectives will be to make sure that the guaranteed spend is kept to a minimum and the add-ons maximised. Another £5m if we stay up? Certainly sir. Another £3m if he gets 25 goals? You got it.

 

[GymClassHero]

Nobody knows what we will offer with regards to wages. People need to stop flapping, Chris Wilder has not put a foot wrong really since stepping through the door, he knows what he wants and how he is going to do it. I fully trust he will sign the players he thinks are necessary and am actually proud he will not he bullied in to paying over the odds. If you ask me this deal is all but done and it’s a matter of settling wages and the agents cut, nothing more.

 

[Tezza1889]

Nobody knows what we will offer with regards to wages. People need to stop flapping, Chris Wilder has not put a foot wrong really since stepping through the door, he knows what he wants and how he is going to do it. I fully trust he will sign the players he thinks are necessary and am actually proud he will not he bullied in to paying over the odds. If you ask me this deal is all but done and it’s a matter of settling wages and the agents cut, nothing more.

I rarely believe any deal is cut and dried, the gascoine to man utd story is a very famous one, but proof that until signed sealed and in the shirt then they're not your player..

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I rarely believe any deal is cut and dried, the gascoine to man utd story is a very famous one, but proof that until signed sealed and in the shirt then they're not your player..

What more famous than the "Blades to sign Gazza" story?

 

[SufcBilly]

Can anyone confirm that Bettis is in portugal? ive seen it mentioned on here but obviously hes not pitchside so dont see any photos, cheers

 

[Rob86]

If you ask me this deal is all but done and it’s a matter of settling wages and the agents cut, nothing more.

But settling the wages and agents cut is a key part of the deal, possibly the most important.

We’ve obviously no idea how far away each party is with their figures but with seemingly no interest from another Premier League club, it’s currently looking good for us. He’ll be doubling/tripling his wages with our offer, could receive a better offer if another club comes in, or could end up staying at Brentford if he holds out too long.

Just hope we’ve got a contingency in place so we can threaten to walk away if it drags on.