Michael Palin and Chris Wilder on BBC Radio 4

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Chris doesn’t have the archetypal Radio 4 voice does he? I enjoyed that - thanks for sharing!
 
Palin would no doubt say the same about Wednesday:-)
 
I would be grateful if anyone can type in what was said between them please?
Basically they had them both on chatting about the ups and downs of being a Blade. Palin said all the recent success has made him nervous, as a Blades fan he is always waiting for things to go wrong. They spoke about that Ripping Yarns episode where Palin if a fan of a team that always lose, and played a clip. It was a funny chat, CW was on good form
 
I would be grateful if anyone can type in what was said between them please?
Its a bit wordy for a proper transcript but roughly;

  • CW talks of how its been tough this year but we’ve had good times recently. Says PL ruthless, etc.
  • MP states he’s Sheffield born and a Sheffield United supporter. Says football is all about the emotion- changes multiple times in a game, never mind week to week. Praises CW and how we’ve done recently. Jokes that its nearly as worrying when we’re winning every week as when we’re losing.
  • CW says being a Blade is either feast or famine.
  • MP agrees and says at least its a ride; we aren’t just sat there as a boring club doing nothing; His wife can judge how our result has gone by his reaction when he’s finding out our result.
  • Presenter asks CW how he’s keeping the team going during the bad run; says its a good group, down to earth, hard working bunch, etc.
  • They play a short clip from Ripping Yarns where MP plays a character who’s team lose 8-0 every week. MP says the character went home and smashed his front room up after every game because of his love/connection to his club snd that's how he feels about SUFC. Praises CW for being honest throughout it all and jokes that last season his house was fine, but this year its a burning wreck.
  • CW points out we’ve not quite lost 8-0 yet and joke that things aren’t that bad.
  • MP says the team and results affect his emotional life; CW laughs and points out it affects him a bit more.

They all laugh and thats pretty much it.
 
I would be grateful if anyone can type in what was said between them please?
Raw dictation into word. No grammar etc just as dictated. Hope it helps.

Told us some stuff isn't he's incredibly ruthless division in nisha a little bit off like we are at the moment you get incredibly punished which we are being Michael you will have performed down the years to some very tough audiences and not got the response you will have wanted so perhaps those experiences you can relate to the emotions that Chris has been telling us about well I think I can I meet all about emotions I think about football and I'm supportive Sheffield United and the Sheffield born lad there's elation and there's doubt and then the despair and they all happened within each game let alone within each week or each month so I think the downs and just part of it you know and that's when it you have to show yourself as a true supporters when you continue to follow the club through the bad times and the good times and the United thanks to Chris is brilliant managership have had some very very good times and I found almost unreal you know it kind of worries me as much when they're winning all the time as when they're losing all the time you feel this deep sense of things to go well or have said regarding supporting Sheffield united's not a glory hunting football club one of the things that always sticks with us as Sheffield United supporters is that it is feast or famine and we deal with both pretty similar and it has been a real rollercoaster ride being a Sheffield United supporter not just over maybe the last 10 or 1520 years but over possibly a longer period than that at least it's been a ride you know it's not been just sitting there in a chair doing nothing you kind of I'm up and down when I wait the United result each week I'm going through so many emotions my wife knows from my body language instantly even when I'm not in the room what's happened so you're involved that's the great thing Chris how have you kept the belief going for yourself in your players got a really good group of footballers which obviously have achieved enormous amount over the last three or four years from different journeys from everybody you know they're not top international players they've worked extremely hard to get to this stage of their careers and what they've achieved but the biggest things from my point of view Gary's that the good people the humble people and then they try and ever so hard and they want to win they haven't got the white flag up show in the way I'm it doesn't surprise me of their attitude in terms of keep going and keep driving forward Michael Palin you wrote and starred in the BBC comedy ripping yarns it was all about a fictitious football team that lost every game and the character you played he was always furious when he came home from matches wasn't he yeah that's right the team was bounced in with united and they lost on average about 8 nil every week AWOL 8 bloody 181 to bring us per team of old age pensioners for centre forward wears glasses during the match it come back on his wife would know what he was going to do and it was start smashed the house up really and feed have the crop ready to throw at the mantlepiece unona chair would go through the window so every time they lost that's of rebuild the living room but the whole thing was that they she didn't mind it didn't matter that they lost it was the fact that his enthusiasm and his connexion with the club was the most important thing and that's what I feel about Sheffield United and a city like Sheffield and also that Chris is a sheffielder and has stayed there and told the truth and being honest about it all the time and helped us to great and amazing things when I will clocks would not have been thrown through the window in my house last season at all this season of another house at all it's a little burning Ray Chris you haven't conceded a but I'm sure you can see the funny side of that Chris yeah just thinking that when I was listening to that it's been quite a lot closer than that and for every brick house is a Chelsea Manchester United Liverpool and Manchester City so I take a little bit of comfort that your team and whatever happens affects my emotional life more than he else at the moment I think it takes me a little bit more chris wilder best wishes for the rest of the season thank you chris really enjoyed it gary thank you and michael palin thank you very much indeed okay cheers gary by you can listen to more free content from the today programme by going
 

Raw dictation into word. No grammar etc just as dictated. Hope it helps.

Told us some stuff isn't he's incredibly ruthless division in nisha a little bit off like we are at the moment you get incredibly punished which we are being Michael you will have performed down the years to some very tough audiences and not got the response you will have wanted so perhaps those experiences you can relate to the emotions that Chris has been telling us about well I think I can I meet all about emotions I think about football and I'm supportive Sheffield United and the Sheffield born lad there's elation and there's doubt and then the despair and they all happened within each game let alone within each week or each month so I think the downs and just part of it you know and that's when it you have to show yourself as a true supporters when you continue to follow the club through the bad times and the good times and the United thanks to Chris is brilliant managership have had some very very good times and I found almost unreal you know it kind of worries me as much when they're winning all the time as when they're losing all the time you feel this deep sense of things to go well or have said regarding supporting Sheffield united's not a glory hunting football club one of the things that always sticks with us as Sheffield United supporters is that it is feast or famine and we deal with both pretty similar and it has been a real rollercoaster ride being a Sheffield United supporter not just over maybe the last 10 or 1520 years but over possibly a longer period than that at least it's been a ride you know it's not been just sitting there in a chair doing nothing you kind of I'm up and down when I wait the United result each week I'm going through so many emotions my wife knows from my body language instantly even when I'm not in the room what's happened so you're involved that's the great thing Chris how have you kept the belief going for yourself in your players got a really good group of footballers which obviously have achieved enormous amount over the last three or four years from different journeys from everybody you know they're not top international players they've worked extremely hard to get to this stage of their careers and what they've achieved but the biggest things from my point of view Gary's that the good people the humble people and then they try and ever so hard and they want to win they haven't got the white flag up show in the way I'm it doesn't surprise me of their attitude in terms of keep going and keep driving forward Michael Palin you wrote and starred in the BBC comedy ripping yarns it was all about a fictitious football team that lost every game and the character you played he was always furious when he came home from matches wasn't he yeah that's right the team was bounced in with united and they lost on average about 8 nil every week AWOL 8 bloody 181 to bring us per team of old age pensioners for centre forward wears glasses during the match it come back on his wife would know what he was going to do and it was start smashed the house up really and feed have the crop ready to throw at the mantlepiece unona chair would go through the window so every time they lost that's of rebuild the living room but the whole thing was that they she didn't mind it didn't matter that they lost it was the fact that his enthusiasm and his connexion with the club was the most important thing and that's what I feel about Sheffield United and a city like Sheffield and also that Chris is a sheffielder and has stayed there and told the truth and being honest about it all the time and helped us to great and amazing things when I will clocks would not have been thrown through the window in my house last season at all this season of another house at all it's a little burning Ray Chris you haven't conceded a but I'm sure you can see the funny side of that Chris yeah just thinking that when I was listening to that it's been quite a lot closer than that and for every brick house is a Chelsea Manchester United Liverpool and Manchester City so I take a little bit of comfort that your team and whatever happens affects my emotional life more than he else at the moment I think it takes me a little bit more chris wilder best wishes for the rest of the season thank you chris really enjoyed it gary thank you and michael palin thank you very much indeed okay cheers gary by you can listen to more free content from the today programme by going
Thank you
 
I would be grateful if anyone can type in what was said between them please?

Gary Richardson: Chris Wilder, having had three outstanding seasons, why the contrast this season?

Chris Wilder: Well dear me, it's just how sport is and sometimes in football you don't get it all your own way and we've had a really good run at it and a lot of things I have to say have gone for us big time as well. So, we're obviously disappointed this year in how it's gone for us and it's an incredibly ruthless division and if you're a bit off like we are then you can get incredibly punished for it, which we are being.

Gary Richardson: Michael, you will have performed down the years to some very tough audiences and not got the response you'd have wanted, so perhaps with those experiences you can relate to the emotions that Chris has been telling us about?

Michael Palin: Well I think I can, you see its all about emotions and I'm a supporter of Sheffield United and er, a Sheffield lad and there's elation and there's doubt and then there's despair and they all happen within each game, let alone each week or each month, so the downs are just a part of it, y'know and that's when you have to show yourself as a true supporter where you continue to follow the club through bad times as well as the good, and United under Chris' brilliant managership (sic) have had some very good times and I've found it almost unreal, it almost kind of worries me as much when we're winning all the time as when they're losing all the time (laughs) and you just feel this deep sense of wanting things to go well.

Chris Wilder: Well I've always said that one thing about supporting Sheffield United is that its not a glory hunters club and it's always 'feast or famine' and we deal with both pretty similar and it has been a bit of a roller coaster ride being a Sheffield United fan not only for the past 15-20 years but maybe longer than that.

Michael Palin: Well at least it's been a ride, we've not just been sitting there, when I wait for the United result each week I go through so many emotions and my wife knows from my body language instantly, even when I'm not in the room whats going on! So you're involved, thats the great thing.

Gary Richardson: Chris, how have you kept the belief going for yourself and your players?


Chris Wilder: Well I've got a great group of footballers who have achieved an enormous amount obviously over the past three or four years from different journeys, from everybody. They're not top international players, they've worked really hard to get to this stage of their careers and what they've achieved but the biggest thing from my point of view Gary is that they're good people and humble people, and they're trying ever so hard and they want to win. They haven't put the white flag up, so it doesn't surprise me their attitude in terms of "keep going and keep driving forward"

Gary Richardson: "Michael, you wrote and starred in the BBC comedy, Ripping Yarns , it was all about a fictitious football team that lost every game, and the character you played, he was always furious when he came home from matches wasn't he?


Michael Palin: Yes the team was Barnestoneworth United and they lost on average 8-0 every week. He come home and his wife wouldn't know what he was gonna do and he'd smash the house up really and he'd have the clock ready to throw at the mantlepiece and a chair would go through the window! So every time they lost he'd have to rebuild the living room. But it didn't matter that they lost, the important thing was his connection to the club and thats how I feel about Sheffield United and a city like Sheffield and also that Chris is a Sheffielder and has told the truth and been honest the whole time and has led us to great things. The clocks weren't getting thrown around my house last season! This season I've got no house at all, its a burning wreck! (laughter)

Gary Richardson: I'm sure you can see the funny side of that Chris?

Chris Wilder: Yeah I was just thinking that, for every Brighouse (Palin fictional teams opposition) there's a Manchester United, a Chelsea or a Liverpool! So I take a bit of comfort from that (laughs)

Michael Palin: Your team and whatever happens affects my emotional life more than anything else at the moment!

Chris Wilder: Well I think it affect mine a little bit more! (laughs)
 
He’s no Blade.


I have to concur with SouthEssexBlade . He has often said that he would watch out for the results from both teams and living away from Sheffield always wanted both teams to do well. It wasn't uncommon, old school as SEB says. Also there was a long time when Wednesday were known internationally far more than we were so on his travels it would have been easier to mention a club name that people recognised. Football has become far more partisan, I don't know whether that's good or bad, but he seems to have now nailed red and white to his mast.
 
Gary Richardson: Chris Wilder, having had three outstanding seasons, why the contrast this season?

Chris Wilder: Well dear me, it's just how sport is and sometimes in football you don't get it all your own way and we've had a really good run at it and a lot of things I have to say have gone for us big time as well. So, we're obviously disappointed this year in how it's gone for us and it's an incredibly ruthless division and if you're a bit off like we are then you can get incredibly punished for it, which we are being.

Gary Richardson: Michael, you will have performed down the years to some very tough audiences and not got the response you'd have wanted, so perhaps with those experiences you can relate to the emotions that Chris has been telling us about?

Michael Palin: Well I think I can, you see its all about emotions and I'm a supporter of Sheffield United and er, a Sheffield lad and there's elation and there's doubt and then there's despair and they all happen within each game, let alone each week or each month, so the downs are just a part of it, y'know and that's when you have to show yourself as a true supporter where you continue to follow the club through bad times as well as the good, and United under Chris' brilliant managership (sic) have had some very good times and I've found it almost unreal, it almost kind of worries me as much when we're winning all the time as when they're losing all the time (laughs) and you just feel this deep sense of wanting things to go well.

Chris Wilder: Well I've always said that one thing about supporting Sheffield United is that its not a glory hunters club and it's always 'feast or famine' and we deal with both pretty similar and it has been a bit of a roller coaster ride being a Sheffield United fan not only for the past 15-20 years but maybe longer than that.

Michael Palin: Well at least it's been a ride, we've not just been sitting there, when I wait for the United result each week I go through so many emotions and my wife knows from my body language instantly, even when I'm not in the room whats going on! So you're involved, thats the great thing.

Gary Richardson: Chris, how have you kept the belief going for yourself and your players?


Chris Wilder: Well I've got a great group of footballers who have achieved an enormous amount obviously over the past three or four years from different journeys, from everybody. They're not top international players, they've worked really hard to get to this stage of their careers and what they've achieved but the biggest thing from my point of view Gary is that they're good people and humble people, and they're trying ever so hard and they want to win. They haven't put the white flag up, so it doesn't surprise me their attitude in terms of "keep going and keep driving forward"

Gary Richardson: "Michael, you wrote and starred in the BBC comedy, Ripping Yarns , it was all about a fictitious football team that lost every game, and the character you played, he was always furious when he came home from matches wasn't he?


Michael Palin: Yes the team was Barnestoneworth United and they lost on average 8-0 every week. He come home and his wife wouldn't know what he was gonna do and he'd smash the house up really and he'd have the clock ready to throw at the mantlepiece and a chair would go through the window! So every time they lost he'd have to rebuild the living room. But it didn't matter that they lost, the important thing was his connection to the club and thats how I feel about Sheffield United and a city like Sheffield and also that Chris is a Sheffielder and has told the truth and been honest the whole time and has led us to great things. The clocks weren't getting thrown around my house last season! This season I've got no house at all, its a burning wreck! (laughter)

Gary Richardson: I'm sure you can see the funny side of that Chris?

Chris Wilder: Yeah I was just thinking that, for every Brighouse (Palin fictional teams opposition) there's a Manchester United, a Chelsea or a Liverpool! So I take a bit of comfort from that (laughs)

Michael Palin: Your team and whatever happens affects my emotional life more than anything else at the moment!

Chris Wilder: Well I think it affect mine a little bit more! (laughs)
Thank you
 
I have to concur with SouthEssexBlade . He has often said that he would watch out for the results from both teams and living away from Sheffield always wanted both teams to do well. It wasn't uncommon, old school as SEB says. Also there was a long time when Wednesday were known internationally far more than we were so on his travels it would have been easier to mention a club name that people recognised. Football has become far more partisan, I don't know whether that's good or bad, but he seems to have now nailed red and white to his mast.

I think we were his first choice but it wavered if we were struggling. It's no coincidence that Barnstoneworth were called United and played in red and white stripes.
 
Michael is something of a lifelong hero of mine, whereas Mr Wilder is a more recent one. I was 11 (just the right age!) when Monty Python appeared, and it sort of "formed" my sense of humour. Life of Brian is one of my favourite films too, and I've been rewatching a lot of his travels on TV, which are a good diversion when we can't go anywhere. The Ripping Yarn about the trials of Barnstoneworth United is priceless - Barnstoneworth ARE our United.
A few years ago I saw Michael "in conversation" at the Crucible with Mark Lawson (very Radio 4!!), and he was funny, warm, and has never forgotten Sheffield, and remains very much a Sheffield lad (if a rather cultured middle class one!). And he is a Blade, albeit of the type and generation described by SEB.
Michael and Chris are both in their very different ways, great sons of our city!!
UTB!!
 
Palin has always said he supported United when he lived in Sheffield but since he left the City in his late teens he has wanted both Sheffield sides to do well.. it’s not an attitude I understand but fair enough.. my Grandad was similar he was a Blade through and through.. but he always said he was guttered when Wednesday lost the cup final in 1966 As he said it would have been great for the City... But he said he was more guttered when Boxing Day 79 happened.

Sadly He didn’t live quite long enough to see us do the double revenge season In 1991/92
 
Our Michael is very old School in that he has an affiliation to one club, but likes to see Sheffield as a city doing well. I know plenty of my dad's generation who followed United but would go to the Rustadome as well and would be happy that the Grubsters won.

I think location might play a part. My dad was only 5 years younger than Palin but had a visceral hatred for Wednesday all his life. Being from Parson Cross he was in a minority of Blades, likewise for me being from Wincobank/Shiregreen. You get bombarded with Piggy propaganda every day so you develop a siege mentality.
 
Our Michael is very old School in that he has an affiliation to one club, but likes to see Sheffield as a city doing well. I know plenty of my dad's generation who followed United but would go to the Rustadome as well and would be happy that the Grubsters won.
Few things in life that I feel as strongly about as my fucking hatred for Wednesday. If someone said they could wave a magic wand and make Wednesday defunct but United would spend the rest of my life in League 2 I'd snap their hand off. I think I hate the pigs more than I love the Blades
 
My mate's dad was best friends with Michael Palin at school and uni and they were both Wednesday fans. He seems to bend with the wind now, which is very 'London'.

My dad, a lifelong Blade now in his 80s, used to go to Wednesday games when we were away because he enjoyed watching football. I bought him a blue and white striped umbrella once and he refused to use it.
 
Raw dictation into word. No grammar etc just as dictated. Hope it helps.

Told us some stuff isn't he's incredibly ruthless division in nisha a little bit off like we are at the moment you get incredibly punished which we are being Michael you will have performed down the years to some very tough audiences and not got the response you will have wanted so perhaps those experiences you can relate to the emotions that Chris has been telling us about well I think I can I meet all about emotions I think about football and I'm supportive Sheffield United and the Sheffield born lad there's elation and there's doubt and then the despair and they all happened within each game let alone within each week or each month so I think the downs and just part of it you know and that's when it you have to show yourself as a true supporters when you continue to follow the club through the bad times and the good times and the United thanks to Chris is brilliant managership have had some very very good times and I found almost unreal you know it kind of worries me as much when they're winning all the time as when they're losing all the time you feel this deep sense of things to go well or have said regarding supporting Sheffield united's not a glory hunting football club one of the things that always sticks with us as Sheffield United supporters is that it is feast or famine and we deal with both pretty similar and it has been a real rollercoaster ride being a Sheffield United supporter not just over maybe the last 10 or 1520 years but over possibly a longer period than that at least it's been a ride you know it's not been just sitting there in a chair doing nothing you kind of I'm up and down when I wait the United result each week I'm going through so many emotions my wife knows from my body language instantly even when I'm not in the room what's happened so you're involved that's the great thing Chris how have you kept the belief going for yourself in your players got a really good group of footballers which obviously have achieved enormous amount over the last three or four years from different journeys from everybody you know they're not top international players they've worked extremely hard to get to this stage of their careers and what they've achieved but the biggest things from my point of view Gary's that the good people the humble people and then they try and ever so hard and they want to win they haven't got the white flag up show in the way I'm it doesn't surprise me of their attitude in terms of keep going and keep driving forward Michael Palin you wrote and starred in the BBC comedy ripping yarns it was all about a fictitious football team that lost every game and the character you played he was always furious when he came home from matches wasn't he yeah that's right the team was bounced in with united and they lost on average about 8 nil every week AWOL 8 bloody 181 to bring us per team of old age pensioners for centre forward wears glasses during the match it come back on his wife would know what he was going to do and it was start smashed the house up really and feed have the crop ready to throw at the mantlepiece unona chair would go through the window so every time they lost that's of rebuild the living room but the whole thing was that they she didn't mind it didn't matter that they lost it was the fact that his enthusiasm and his connexion with the club was the most important thing and that's what I feel about Sheffield United and a city like Sheffield and also that Chris is a sheffielder and has stayed there and told the truth and being honest about it all the time and helped us to great and amazing things when I will clocks would not have been thrown through the window in my house last season at all this season of another house at all it's a little burning Ray Chris you haven't conceded a but I'm sure you can see the funny side of that Chris yeah just thinking that when I was listening to that it's been quite a lot closer than that and for every brick house is a Chelsea Manchester United Liverpool and Manchester City so I take a little bit of comfort that your team and whatever happens affects my emotional life more than he else at the moment I think it takes me a little bit more chris wilder best wishes for the rest of the season thank you chris really enjoyed it gary thank you and michael palin thank you very much indeed okay cheers gary by you can listen to more free content from the today programme by going
Now I'm not the nazi grammar police, but paragraphs, sweet Jesus use paragraphs.
 

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