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Just listened to the Not the top 20 podcast and they seem to really rate Mcburnie. Actually say we look a better attacking force with Mcburnie up top than Sharp. Also say Mcburnie suits MGW better than Sharp
 
sufcboy95 said:
Just listened to the Not the top 20 podcast and they seem to really rate Mcburnie. Actually say we look a better attacking force with Mcburnie up top than Sharp. Also say Mcburnie suits MGW better than Sharp
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I just listened to that too. I’ve never disagreed more with anything George Elek has said in the 3 years I’ve been listening to them.

The idea that we are better with MGW and McBurnie stands up to no serious scrutiny IMHO.
 
sufcboy95 said:
Just listened to the Not the top 20 podcast and they seem to really rate Mcburnie. Actually say we look a better attacking force with Mcburnie up top than Sharp. Also say Mcburnie suits MGW better than Sharp
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In which case , they must be highly perceptive people with a great knowledge and understanding of the game of football .

Or not , as the case may be .
 
Mcburnie put two on a plate for his strike partner. Won most of his aerial duels and kept the ball the majority of the time. Did his job. Another day we win 3-0 and people are commending him on his performance. He could be more of a threat, though: he doesn't make the vertical runs that get you goals. Still he headed one down that was cleared in the six yard box and attempted a diving header. More of that is needed - that's how you get goals, making those types of movements
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A much bigger problem in the last two games is the lack of midfield runners getting in the box. If it's not Gibbs white, it's nobody. It's Imperative when you play one striker, whose primary role is to link, win flick ons and arrive late in the box that you have players that will run beyond. You can't win your own header to yourself, control your own lay off and then arrive to finish off a move. Seemingly what a lot of people expect. If the midfielders can't or wont do it, you play two strikers. You could have Ibrahimović and Gibbs white and you'll still struggle as you are constantly outnumbered. I was a bit disappointed to see only one striker throughout the game as we know that Bournemouth like to build up, and that they are very much "pressable". Say what you want about Jebbo, but he's quick. He can stretch a game and defend from the front. The few times we did it resulted in turn overs, and throw ins as the goalkeeper slashed the ball into John Street or the South Stand. It also gets the crowd involved in the game. You let a team have the ball to the half way line constantly, playing the ball about, and you kill the atmosphere.

All that said, the manager would doubtless argue that we had the better chances and our midfielders are too poor defensively to go two with one behind.

Another thing: pace is not a requirement to score goals in football. It helps you score certain types of goals, but no, it's not a requirement to have even the average pace of a professional footballer.
 
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nopigfansintown said:
Mcburnie put two on a plate for his strike partner. Won most of his aerial duels and kept the ball the majority of the time. Did his job. Another day we win 3-0 and people are commending him on his performance. He could be more of a threat, though: he doesn't make the vertical runs that get you goals. Still he headed one down that was cleared in the six yard box and attempted a diving header. More of that is needed - that's how you get goals, making those types of movements
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A much bigger problem in the last two games is the lack of midfield runners getting in the box. If it's not Gibbs white, it's nobody. It's Imperative when you play one striker, whose primary role is to link, win flick ons and arrive late in the box that you have players that will run beyond. You can't win your own header, control your own pass and then arrive to finish off a move. Seemingly what a lot of people expect. If the midfielders can't or wont do it, you play two strikers. You could have Ibrahimović and Gibbs white and you'll still struggle as you are constantly outnumbered. I was a bit disappointed to see only one striker throughout the game as we know that Bournemouth like to build up, and that they are very much "pressable". Say what you want about Jebbo, but he's quick. He can stretch a game and defend from the front. The few times we did it resulted in turn overs, and throw ins as the goalkeeper slashed into John Street or the South Stand.

All that said, the manager would doubtless argue that we had the better chances and our midfielders are too poor defensively to go two with one behind.

Another thing: pace is not a requirement to score goals in football. It helps you score certain types of goals, but no, it's not a requirement to have even the average pace of a professional footballer.
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Excellent post.
 
nopigfansintown said:
Mcburnie put two on a plate for his strike partner. Won most of his aerial duels and kept the ball the majority of the time. Did his job. Another day we win 3-0 and people are commending him on his performance. He could be more of a threat, though: he doesn't make the vertical runs that get you goals. Still he headed one down that was cleared in the six yard box and attempted a diving header. More of that is needed - that's how you get goals, making those types of movements
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A much bigger problem in the last two games is the lack of midfield runners getting in the box. If it's not Gibbs white, it's nobody. It's Imperative when you play one striker, whose primary role is to link, win flick ons and arrive late in the box that you have players that will run beyond. You can't win your own header to yourself, control your own lay off and then arrive to finish off a move. Seemingly what a lot of people expect. If the midfielders can't or wont do it, you play two strikers. You could have Ibrahimović and Gibbs white and you'll still struggle as you are constantly outnumbered. I was a bit disappointed to see only one striker throughout the game as we know that Bournemouth like to build up, and that they are very much "pressable". Say what you want about Jebbo, but he's quick. He can stretch a game and defend from the front. The few times we did it resulted in turn overs, and throw ins as the goalkeeper slashed the ball into John Street or the South Stand. It also gets the crowd involved in the game. You let a team have the ball to the half way line constantly, playing the ball about, and you kill the atmosphere.

All that said, the manager would doubtless argue that we had the better chances and our midfielders are too poor defensively to go two with one behind.

Another thing: pace is not a requirement to score goals in football. It helps you score certain types of goals, but no, it's not a requirement to have even the average pace of a professional footballer.
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Midfield runners not getting into the box has been a problem for most of the last 2 seasons.

McBurnie “could be more of a threat” is the understatement of the year. At the end of the day, if he keeps playing he has to start scoring or we are cooked, because MGW excepted no one else looks a likely scorer. There’s Berge, I suppose, but we won’t get a good game out of him unless others are also on it.
 
LewishamBlade said:
Looked like he knew what he was doing when he threaded it through 3 bodies to MGW at the end of the first half on Saturday
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It was a good pass.

But Baldock has scored arguably goal of the season. Are you suggesting we put him up front?

One swallow does not a summer make
 
jt64 said:
So all the goals he scored whilst at Swansea were just accidents? Or were they playing the blind school every week?
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That was years ago. How many of their games did you watch?

Compared to how many of ours where he’s been rubbish, and scored very, very few goals including now - 7 in over 80 games.

“He was good at Swansea” doesn’t cut it any more.
 
sufcboy95 said:
Just listened to the Not the top 20 podcast and they seem to really rate Mcburnie. Actually say we look a better attacking force with Mcburnie up top than Sharp. Also say Mcburnie suits MGW better than Sharp
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To be fair, they're a couple of posh boys who said a few weeks ago that Chris Wilder was the best manager in world football. Not sure anything they say from that point forwards can be taken very seriously.
 
jt64 said:
Few. The point is that someone does not score that many if someone "just isn't very good at football"
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Why not? Lots of players showed early promise and then faded away.

To the same point, you can’t ignore what he’s done for us and it’s very little. He’s putting the effort in but not achieving much. I just don’t rate him at all, but appreciate some do.
 
dillis said:
Are we just going to slag Mcburnie and ignore the two sitters MGW missed then? There is a a definite agenda against Mcburnie.
My point is that these two work and are generally improving every game, as we move into the play-offs this could be huge.
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Dillises team to ream Reading...
 



Sheff de party said:
It was a good pass.

But Baldock has scored arguably goal of the season. Are you suggesting we put him up front?

One swallow does not a summer make
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Just suggesting what you said was bollocks, thanks for confirming
 
Yellarbellyblade said:
McB is our only fit senior striker currently so he will start until Billy is available at the very least. Any understanding he can build with MGW in training and games will soften the blow of Billy being out. Worrying me more is if McB goes down again we’re only left with the kids. This has the feel of the season when we only had Craig Beattie left standing for the play offs
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Striker 😆😆
 
Sheff de party said:
Ok mate. Yet more solid reasoning.

You continue to ignore the game after game of dross he’s produced if it makes you happy.
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I made one small point to break what you said apart, it worked. Can move along with your day now buddy 👍🏼
 
Sheff de party said:
Why not? Lots of players showed early promise and then faded away.

To the same point, you can’t ignore what he’s done for us and it’s very little. He’s putting the effort in but not achieving much. I just don’t rate him at all, but appreciate some do.
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This 100%. Scott Hogan had a great scoring record for 2 or 3 years but has never reached those heights again, Leon Clarke scored 9 goals for us in 2 games but only a further 10 goals in all the other games that season. Sometimes players just hit a purple patch, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be able to reproduce that time and time again.

Across all levels of sport the best players aren't necessarily the ones with the most skill, but instead they are the ones who can apply the most skill consistently.
 
NuddysGloves said:
This 100%. Scott Hogan had a great scoring record for 2 or 3 years but has never reached those heights again, Leon Clarke scored 9 goals for us in 2 games but only a further 10 goals in all the other games that season. Sometimes players just hit a purple patch, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be able to reproduce that time and time again.

Across all levels of sport the best players aren't necessarily the ones with the most skill, but instead they are the ones who can apply the most skill consistently.
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At this point McBurnie's goals in 2018-19 are about as relevant as Clarke's in 2017-18, i.e. not very relevant.
 
nopigfansintown said:
Mcburnie put two on a plate for his strike partner. Won most of his aerial duels and kept the ball the majority of the time. Did his job. Another day we win 3-0 and people are commending him on his performance. He could be more of a threat, though: he doesn't make the vertical runs that get you goals. Still he headed one down that was cleared in the six yard box and attempted a diving header. More of that is needed - that's how you get goals, making those types of movements
.
A much bigger problem in the last two games is the lack of midfield runners getting in the box. If it's not Gibbs white, it's nobody. It's Imperative when you play one striker, whose primary role is to link, win flick ons and arrive late in the box that you have players that will run beyond. You can't win your own header to yourself, control your own lay off and then arrive to finish off a move. Seemingly what a lot of people expect. If the midfielders can't or wont do it, you play two strikers. You could have Ibrahimović and Gibbs white and you'll still struggle as you are constantly outnumbered. I was a bit disappointed to see only one striker throughout the game as we know that Bournemouth like to build up, and that they are very much "pressable". Say what you want about Jebbo, but he's quick. He can stretch a game and defend from the front. The few times we did it resulted in turn overs, and throw ins as the goalkeeper slashed the ball into John Street or the South Stand. It also gets the crowd involved in the game. You let a team have the ball to the half way line constantly, playing the ball about, and you kill the atmosphere.

All that said, the manager would doubtless argue that we had the better chances and our midfielders are too poor defensively to go two with one behind.

Another thing: pace is not a requirement to score goals in football. It helps you score certain types of goals, but no, it's not a requirement to have even the average pace of a professional footballer.
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Agreed^^^^^


Cant deny 27 apps in the league and 0 goals isn't good for any striker and he does need to chip in though who cares if its a 90th minute winner with his jebend at Wembley

Though the vast majority of those games were half-fit starts or 10 minute cameos
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Agreed^^^^^


Cant deny 27 apps in the league and 0 goals isn't good for any striker and he does need to chip in though who cares if its a 90th minute winner with his jebend at Wembley

Though the vast majority of those games were half-fit starts or 10 minute cameos
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Can't deny - its fucking atrocious man..
 
Interesting that in the player ratings thread where a lot of people contribute and you get a much more balanced view McBurnie is slightly ahead of MGW.
Who'd have thought it eh? Seems like the McB haters like to shout the loudest........................................ empty vessels make more noise. No doubt these haters will be scrambling over to that thread to give McBurnie a ridiculously low mark to prove their point.
 
metalblade said:
Interesting that in the player ratings thread where a lot of people contribute and you get a much more balanced view McBurnie is slightly ahead of MGW.
Who'd have thought it eh? Seems like the McB haters like to shout the loudest........................................ empty vessels make more noise. No doubt these haters will be scrambling over to that thread to give McBurnie a ridiculously low mark to prove their point.
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Cant be arsed with doing the player ratings but there's no hope for anyone who thinks mcburnie is better than mgw....
 



McB needs a goal but I've been impressed with him the last couple of games. Friday is a massive test for him though we will be expected to create chances & win, that puts pressure on him & MGW
 
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