McCabe

[Foxy]

Agreed but none of them leave an idiot like 'our terry' in charge.

Actually, a few of them elected him onto certain high profile boards.

I'll ask again, I don't really like the bloke, but what has Terry Robinson done that is so detrimental to our club?

 

[beightonblade]

Actually, a few of them elected him onto certain high profile boards.

I'll ask again, I don't really like the bloke, but what has Terry Robinson done that is so detrimental to our club?

Your a Blade and don't know ?, well here is one thing, recommended Floppo to McCabe for the managers job then appointed him.

Hey Foxy who elected him to what high profile boards?

 

[Foxy]

Your a Blade and don't know ?, well here is one thing, recommended Floppo to McCabe for the managers job then appointed him.

For this crime, he is being punished and being moved abroad. This means he's no longer being left in charge.

The period of being left in charge however, was clearly before this happening, what did he do?

Hey Foxy who elected him to what high profile boards?

I'm not privvy to the exact electing members, but many of the games "top chairmen"/"top figures" elected him to discussionary groups, steering comittees etc in the FA and the Premier League. For some reason (I'm at a loss myself) he's well thought of in such circles.

I'm still waiting for your answer on why McCabe didn't "cash in" when he'd have got the best price for his shares?

 

[beightonblade]

For this crime, he is being punished and being moved abroad. This means he's no longer being left in charge.

The period of being left in charge however, was clearly before this happening, what did he do?

The appointment of Floppo was the biggest mistake in the clubs history.



I'm still waiting for your answer on why McCabe didn't "cash in" when he'd have got the best price for his shares?

mmmmmmmmm...... so you have insider knowledge on share dealings ?...... or a crystal ball.......... yer shud make yer sen a fortune.............

 

[Foxy]

Way to avoid the actual questions again!

Theres no need for a crystal ball, you should know that yourself, given you said you know his investment and that you've seen our financial reports.

With this knowledge you must surely know that our share price was far higher and shares were more saught after.

I wouldn't make myself a fortune, neither is Mr McCabe, that's my whole point.

 

[beightonblade]

Way to avoid the actual questions again!

Theres no need for a crystal ball, you should know that yourself, given you said you know his investment and that you've seen our financial reports.

With this knowledge you must surely know that our share price was far higher and shares were more saught after.

I wouldn't make myself a fortune, neither is Mr McCabe, that's my whole point.

Have yer been in the pub ?..............do you understand share dealing ?
are you aware SUFC shares are listed on the AIM market ? if so do you understand what that means ?

 

[Foxy]

Have yer been in the pub ?..............do you understand share dealing ?
are you aware SUFC shares are listed on the AIM market ? if so do you understand what that means ?

Remind me again where in the AIM market regulations it says your shares are worth more the worse you do as a business/organisation?

 

[beightonblade]

Remind me again where in the AIM market regulations it says your shares are worth more the worse you do as a business/organisation?

That response alone tells me your out of your depth.

 

[Foxy]

That response alone tells me your out of your depth.

Ok then mr expert, so tell me why i'm completely out of my depth in saying that the lower your share price is the worse your investment is doing? the higher it is, the more money you are going to make from selling?

PS - if we are getting personal, it is "you are" or "you're".

 

[silverfox]

That response alone tells me your out of your depth.

Well done.......drag it down to a personal level.

Why can't people just leave it.

You don't want McCabe.......fine.

 

[MAQ]

:rant::rant:

right ive finally finished reading all this and what it really boils down to is that Beighton you dont like mccabe, foxy you do.

I personally do think that mccabe is a very shrud business man and that his best intentions are with the club. If they werent (As it was pointed out before) he would have sold when the club was worth the most (I.E. when the shares are worth the most amount of money for example you buy 100 shares at £10 and sell the 100 shares for £12.50 thus making 25% profit.........easy maths) He didnt do that so as far as im concerned nuff said.

Our Terry is leaving at the end of the current season as we are all aware and moving elsewhere within the umbrella (ella ella ella ella.........sorry couldnt resist) therefore he deals with something else for mccabe but not at bdtbl, this tells me that mccabe must think he is worth keeping or if not he would be out, we dont see hear everything that happens at the club, we get official bits here and little unofficial bits there, they know we dont.

to you Beighton i ask a simple question..............have you ever made a statement to a partner/parent/sibling/friend/colleague that has later needed to be withdrawn for unforseable reasons? i have on many occasions. For this i allow diversions with what i said to happen, simply because unless you or anyone else is in fact a fly on the wall of the room when anything is being discussed that no single person can be aware of exactly what is happening.

We all want the best for the club, and we all get equally frustrated when things arent happening, this as im sure we will all agree has got to be the if not one of the most depressing times to be a blade in recent seasons, almost to the extent that our own fans (the same ones that i have stood alongside for many years, backed against all, and defended many times. the ones i call my own footbal FAMILY :cry2 are starting to turn on each other simply because we are differing in opinion.

These whole problems are caused by what i like to call the "CHELSKI" effect. They proved that money can buy you success, and quickly too as long as you have enough of the stuff. What they dont see is that these clubs with the exception of Liverpool, Man utd, Barca, Real, the milans etc can survive simply on their own merit just by existing. Yeas they attract the players because of the reputation and the knowledge of their history. The premier league is on an fast approaching collision with self implosion. The members that have the historical knowledge will confirm that the european leagues and success of such have rotated in the last few decades, we are lucky that at this time we can wtness this in our country, but sson it will leave our shores and take root in Spain or Italy once again and the dominance will then move.

What do you think these business men with their billions will want to do after a couple of seasons of wining nothing more than a trophy that says "We are the best club" in a league that is not filling the news stands and not filling the back pages of global rags. The money will be gone and the clubs like "CHELSKI" will also start to fall. And to those who say that Saint Roman of Stamford wont leave them without a penny is talking plain BOLLOX. At the rate that they are going it will take them 10 years to break even.

My point to all this is that McCabe has always stated that his main aim is to acheive self sufficience for the club. This is probably some way off, but the foreign clubs that are becoming covered by the umbrella (ella ella ella ella.........sorry again) are there to assist in the short haul where possible, spread our name, and in the long run preserve our beautiful club for as long as possible. By doing what he is, he is trying to our financial strength.

Yes we all want success and we all want to be as high as possible in the pyramid, but by being careful he is in fact stopping us from turing into that shit hole up the M1 or the blot on the landscape that is swillsbrough.

So for me long live McCabe, if you dont agree then fine thats your opinion, you are intitled to it. I have mine and you have your own.

I for one am starting to get completely fed up with the negativety that seems to be surrounding BDTBL at this moment. We know things are bad, but unless we get behind the team/manager/coaching staff/board and much more importantly the FANS then unfortunately we will end up in the position that some of our main rivals have held in recent times.............YES MY FRIEND THE VERY SAME THAT WE SCOFFED AT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rant::rant:

Apart from that if you dont agree you are wrong

(PS: If you pick out all the spelling and gramatical fuck ups in this than i'll eat your eyes the next time i see you at the lion )

 

[Foxy]

Thats a mammoth of a well thought out post there!, congratulations sir

 

[MAQ]

Thats a mammoth of a well thought out post there!, congratulations sir

tank ka kindly

 

[Robbie]

One word for every fucker, regardless of origin

GYPO

Fantastic times with red bull and vodka

 

[stinkyblade]

One word for every fucker, regardless of origin

GYPO

Fantastic times with red bull and vodka

good night was it

 

[Robbie]

good night was it

you dontk know me

 

[stinkyblade]

you dontk know me

Ok then Robbie

 

[beightonblade]

I personally do think that mccabe is a very shrud business man and that his best intentions are with the club. If they werent (As it was pointed out before) he would have sold when the club was worth the most (I.E. when the shares are worth the most amount of money for example you buy 100 shares at £10 and sell the 100 shares for £12.50 thus making 25% profit.....

mmmmmmmmmm.......................... but if you buy 100 shares at £10 and sell at £30 get the jist................

for me McCabe is building up this 'world footballing empire' to sell out and when the time is right MY opinion is he will cash in.

Add up whats been spent on players in the past few seasons....then minus the amount coming into SUFC through players sold, ticket sales,TV money,parachute payments and the rest........... SUFC have spent nowt in footballing terms.............

Look outside SUFC the rest of the football community think we are a joke, what QUALITY player would want to come to BDTBL ?

 

[Linz]

Look outside SUFC the rest of the football community think we are a joke, what QUALITY player would want to come to BDTBL ?

When have they ever?

 

[Foxy]

Add up whats been spent on players in the past few seasons....then minus the amount coming into SUFC through players sold, ticket sales,TV money,parachute payments and the rest........... SUFC have spent nowt in footballing terms.............

If he's building to sell like you said.... surely its in his interests to make the Blades as good and as saleable as possible?
You accuse him of neglect and persuing things that are no use to us.... Why would he do that if trying to sell us off for a profit?

Still waiting to be enlightened as to why im wrong and out of my depth in saying if a business is performing successfully it is worth more in terms of profits when selling shares.

When you say in footballing terms, what are we comparing to?

Look outside SUFC the rest of the football community think we are a joke, what QUALITY player would want to come to BDTBL ?

No we aren't, we are a promising team, severely underperforming. In the past we couldn't dream of building a squad like we currently have (despite their failings/lack of form). We have on the books many quality players, of the calibre we previously wouldn't have been able to attract.

Why would any quality chairman want to replace McCabe, when the man himself gets slated and accused of lining his own pockets for simply thinking outside the box in an attempt to improve and build our club?

 

[metalblade]

Yes we all want success and we all want to be as high as possible in the pyramid, but by being careful he is in fact stopping us from turing into that shit hole up the M1 or the blot on the landscape that is swillsbrough.

You are having a laugh i hope, to me that is exactly the road we are taking. Beattie, Naysmith, Hendrie, Speed, Ugo each one taking a million quid a season out of SUFC, if this load of shite take us down well you only have to look up the M1 or across the city to see the consequences.

No we aren't, we are a promising team, severely underperforming. In the past we couldn't dream of building a squad like we currently have (despite their failings/lack of form). We have on the books many quality players, of the calibre we previously wouldn't have been able to attract.

Is that the quality in bold above ? jesus wept

More like this load of old has beens/big time charlies/Robsons old chums (delate as applicable) have taken us back to where we were when Heath left (football wise)

 

[Foxy]

Is that the quality in bold above ? jesus wept

More like this load of old has beens/big time charlies/Robsons old chums (delate as applicable) have taken us back to where we were when Heath left (football wise)

How long have you supported the blades? when in your lifetime have we been able to attract players like James Beattie? even an aged Gary Speed? regardless of their current form. In the past we'd have been plumping for Ian Hamilton, James Thomas, Phil Starbuck... I could continue all night.

 

[metalblade]

How long have you supported the blades? when in your lifetime have we been able to attract players like James Beattie? even an aged Gary Speed? regardless of their current form. In the past we'd have been plumping for Ian Hamilton, James Thomas, Phil Starbuck... I could continue all night.

How old do you think i am ? I'm no youngster who knows no better, lets go back little more than 10 years, Deane, Fjortoft both twice the player Beattie has been or will ever be, Tri Dellas, Vas Borbokis, Don hutchinson, Holdsworth etc I too could go on all night without going back to the team of the seventies

 

[stinkyblade]

Go on, i'm up for an all nighter

 

[Foxy]

How old do you think i am ? I'm no youngster who knows no better

I wasn't suggesting you was , I didn't know how old you are, thats why I asked.

Tri Dellas and Vas i'll give you, they weren't exactly massive buys with a known pedigree when we got them however. Out of the others, i'd suggest only Fjortoft is up there. Deane we plucked from lower league football, he only really hit the heights of his scoring form at the Blades.

Hutchison, whilst well travelled, isn't a patch on Gary Speed.

We may have had players in better form or (over their FULL blades career) who have achieved more whilst at our club.... But certainly in my lifetime, we've never been able to come close to tempting some of the players we recently have/can, whatever their merits.

 

[TonyAgana]

Deano came from Donny. £25,000 I think.

Oh how how I wish we could stop attracting England international strikers proven to have the ability to score 20 goals a season in the Premiership and go back to the good old days of plucking youngsters from League 1 sides for 5 figure sums.

Or better still, find a gem of a midfielder, get him on loan, agree a fee and then ask for the fans to chip in so we could afford him. The good old days.

 

[TonyAgana]

Double post, I'm sorry. But...

How many of us could say that only 3 years ago, if somebody said to you we'd soon have James Beattie, Gary Naysmith, Ugo Ehiogu, Gary Speed and Lee Hendrie on our books, who'd turn round and say get stuffed? What a "load of shite" bunch of players they all are.

 

[metalblade]

How many of us could say that only 3 years ago, if somebody said to you we'd soon have James Beattie, Gary Naysmith, Ugo Ehiogu, Gary Speed and Lee Hendrie on our books, who'd turn round and say get stuffed? What a "load of shite" bunch of players they all are.

Maybe so but Ugo and Speed are well past their sell by date, they will not do a job for us like McGrath, Cowans or McCall did.

Tri Dellas and Vas i'll give you, they weren't exactly massive buys with a known pedigree when we got them however. Out of the others, i'd suggest only Fjortoft is up there. Deane we plucked from lower league football, he only really hit the heights of his scoring form at the Blades.

Hutchison, whilst well travelled, isn't a patch on Gary Speed.

Most of them were internationals though, didnt Deane come from Benfica 2nd time around ? Talking of Deane reminds me Dean Saunders wasn't too bad either.

 

[shorehamview]

Paul McGrath - twelve games.
Gordon Cowans - twenty one games.
Hardly doing a job for us. Wait and see what Speed can do - he might be a good signing, he might be bobbins. As far as Ehiogu, I'm of the belief that at the moment he's a waste of wages. We will have to see what happens with him.

 

[stinkyblade]

Ehiogu, waste of space if you ask me, even Silverfox could catch up with him with his 'injuries'