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He might leave yes. But not appointing a manager out of fear of him doing well and attracting attention (and possibly leaving) from elsewhere is ridiculous.
 

he's gone from 25/1 to 1/3 and some have stopped taking money.

got on v.good authority that he was at the club all day yesterday.

he's out of work, knows the division and is clearly interested in the job.

looks nailed on to me.
 
iggle-theblade said:
like with Warnock though we thought he would go to pompey when they came for him but he stayed and took us up
with De Matteo i fear he would leave for a bigger club but then loyalty is rare in this game !
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The old Mandaric , Redknapp , Warnock m Pompeys next Managers 16 million quid Betfair betting scandal , rears its ugly head again , though i do think knocker was just a innocent pawn .
 
A quick aside here but RDM apparently texted our chairman to tell him he was available.

Is it just me or wouldn't a phonecall be a bit more professional? During which they might actually be able to TALK to each other about maybe having a meeting to TALK about the potential of taking the job, or ask how the application process was going to work to get ahead of the crowd.

I remember thinking the same when McCabe said Beattie's agent kept texting him asking for a new contract. "What a cock" thought I, if I was paying someone to represent me I'd expect more than a lazy arsed text message.

"ey up Mc, BT needs more £ 2 stay wot u think m8? BT agent."

Maybe we need a Facebook page to sift applicants?

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S64 Blade said:
He might leave yes. But not appointing a manager out of fear of him doing well and attracting attention (and possibly leaving) from elsewhere is ridiculous.
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Good point well made
 
DP8789 said:
he's gone from 25/1 to 1/3 and some have stopped taking money.

got on v.good authority that he was at the club all day yesterday.

he's out of work, knows the division and is clearly interested in the job.

looks nailed on to me.
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KMc said he'd only recieved a txt off him and hadn't spoke to him. He could of course be trying to throw everyone off the scent but I seriously doubt he'd say it was just a txt when he could say there have been talks but nothing is concrete, or not comment on the matter at all, other sources also claimed Wilder had been there all day. Nothing is nailed on at United or in the sport I'm affraid. :(
 
I think Di Matteo and Hughton (if interested) will be very much the front runners. KM is in a postion where he knows he has to redeem himself and redeem supporter faith in the club. There is also the small issue of season ticket sales, which will shoot up with the appointment of a big name manager.....particularly if its one that has a good track record.

KM could do himself a massive favour by making an appointment that will excite the fans.
 
Very worried that names like Brian Laws and Danny Wilson are being mentioned in the press. I'd be amazed if we got Di Matteo (I'd be surprised if we even went for him).

Only based on what one person has said but I think the players are expecting Pemberton to take over. Far from ideal on a number of levels in my opinion but better than the vast majority of the names mentioned so far.
 
Everytime the question cropped up last night, 'experience' was his first answer. The likes of Pembo, Short and Wilder have none whatsoever at League 1. RDM may well be a pipe dream, more likely we'll end up with Wilson but change of style was also mentioned far more times than I can recall him saying and that's something RDM would definitely bring to the table ahead of many others on the list.
 
While Robson was a ridiculous appointment given all the evidence about his managerial acumen, the "name" aspect was almost true.

Brian Laws and Danny Wilson should be in the same box as Gary Megson; one marked 'Wednesdayite, limited managerial ability, will alienate the fans even further'.

I can't believe McCabe would even seriously consider either and would guess that it's just papertalk.
 

DP8789 said:
he's gone from 25/1 to 1/3 and some have stopped taking money.

got on v.good authority that he was at the club all day yesterday.

he's out of work, knows the division and is clearly interested in the job.

looks nailed on to me.
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Into evens now.

Remember S'oD was something like 1/10 at one point in January and as we said at the time, at this stage, they're just reacting to money placed rather than any info out there.

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borbokis said:
The parts in quotes relating to Hughton and Allardyce weren't in the interview were they?
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Yep, the Allardyce one came up as Brian the Blade suggested him.
 
Jim Chimmerney said:
Yep, the Allardyce one came up as Brian the Blade suggested him.
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What a plank, even if we could afford him I don't think i'd want him. yet another Hoofball merchant although you could argue thats all we can manage with the players at our disposal
 
Allardyce would be the only one who would get us out of L1 quickly with the players we have. Di Matteo's MKDons team were not promoted in L1. Another Robson?

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Having said that. Di Matteo's style is probably the long term way forward. just dont expect a quick fix with him. I think Houghton with Pembo is the dream team for me.

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I'm confused, but excited that there is quality management available. No pigs though.
 
If, as has been said, the drop from Championship to 1st Div is going to cost us £12m, then,presumably, the return will give us a similar amount. Therefore, it seems logical that we appoint the right manager but,perhaps on a promotion bonus, to get us back up at the 1st try. Whilst I have nothing against Pembo, he is doing a magnificent job with the Academy but has no experience of higher-level management or, presumably, man-management. One for the future,I think. KM get Di Matteo in sharpish and get everyone behind the RAWWs once again.
 
Probably because SOD was our choice and wanted to come. The only reason he isnt here is because he was deemed too expensive for all the backroom staff and the deal was veto'd high up the food chain.
 
cooperblade said:
Very worried that names like Brian Laws and Danny Wilson are being mentioned in the press. I'd be amazed if we got Di Matteo (I'd be surprised if we even went for him). Only based on what one person has said but I think the players are expecting Pemberton to take over. Far from ideal on a number of levels in my opinion but better than the vast majority of the names mentioned so far.
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The process seems to be following exactly the same pattern as last time:-

1) United are linked with a number of Ex-Owl managers who the fans wouldn't want. (Laws and Wilson this time, Megson last time).
This has the effect of softening us up, so whoever is eventually appointed we're just happy that Laws/Wilson/Megson didn't get it.

2) Senior Club Official goes on local radio and spells out the type of manager we're looking for.
Also drops strong hints that a popular choice is in the frame (Di Matteo this time, O'Driscoll last time). Excitement builds.

3) Popular choice discusses the job with McCabe and doesn't like what he's told.
I.e. "Any player we receive a bid for will be sold. We can't fight to keep the young players, if a team offers better wages they're off."
"You can't buy anyone or loan anybody. Just build an an attractive promotion-winning team with free transfers and kids please."

4) Popular choice announces he has no interest in the job and he can't understand why he was ever linked with it.

5) Ex-Blade and Ex-Owl suddenly emerge as the clear favourites for the job. Ex-Blade gets it to the great relief of the fans who certainly didn't want Ex-Owl.

6) Simmer gently for six months. Return to Step 1.
 
borbokis said:
What a plank, even if we could afford him I don't think i'd want him. yet another Hoofball merchant although you could argue thats all we can manage with the players at our disposal
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That argument will not prevail, Vas. It's a recipe for perpetual mediocrity. Don't appoint a manager who favours proper football because the players are incapable. Get an upanatem man in to recruit more hoofers and plodders. When you sack him don't bring a football man in because the players are incapable....and so it goes on: A vicious circle made of excrement.

You have to draw a line in the sand. K-Mac has listened to me and is clearly resolved to follow the advice I've been giving to him and also to the We :heart: Hoofing brigade that preach their Devil's Gospel on here.

I'm delighted. I shall be overjoyed if and when words turn into actions.

Time to :heart: Football.

T-Shirts to follow. How many do you want, Raul?
 
Pinchy said:
K-Mac has listened to me and is clearly resolved to follow the advice I've been giving to him and also to the We :heart: Hoofing brigade that preach their Devil's Gospel on here.
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I've got a few more Kevin McCabe quotes for you here Pinchy":-

“The key really is, that we need to know that we’re working with Kevin as the manager on a style of play, that god willing gets us out of the championship. “
“If we have one or two shots in the match, that’s not really what the Blades are about! Points that we are addressing with Kevin, maybe we’ve got to change style of play”
“When we’re talking to Blackie and reviewing what next for the coming season, style of play comes into it.”
“The quality of football (when Blackwell first took over) I don’t think we’d probably complain about.”
“Last season we had a good season apart from that horrible game at Wembley. I don’t think fans were complaining at all that season...”
"Hey..."

Those comments were all made in April 2010, so it wasn't a "Road to Damascus" style conversion from McCabe last night.
What those comments indicate to me is that McCabe was happy with the style of play while ever we were winning.
He's advocating more attacking, entertaining football and we can all agree that we want that.
The hoofing/passing debate is as ever too simplistic as there are many shades of grey in between.
We LOVE attacking/scoring/winning would be a more accurate representation of most fans and The Chairman's attitude.
 
Albion reporter Steve Madeley lifts the lid on the circumstances behind the scenes that led to the sacking of Baggies boss Roberto Di Matteo.

It was early on Christmas Eve that the alarm bells began to sound.

I made a routine call to a players’ agent about a possible transfer deal that was unlikely to happen but needed checking out. But the conversation soon took a very different course.

He spilled the beans on what he claimed was Roberto Di Matteo’s dissatisfaction with Albion over his own contract, transfer policy and his overall opinion of the powers-that-be.

I was sworn to secrecy. Anyhow, this was just one man’s word, so the ‘heads up’ went no further.

But the first doubts had been raised about the long-term future of the latest man charged with plotting the Baggies’ Premier League future.

It did not end there. A few weeks later a colleague on the Express & Star sports desk listened with surprise as a respected coach from a rival club raised more doubts about Di Matteo’s Hawthorns prospects.

And this time it was the Italian’s standing among his team that was called into question.

The contact claimed to have spoken to friends at the Hawthorns and, in his words, Di Matteo’s players simply “wouldn’t have him.” The sense of foreboding grew stronger.

If our contacts were on the money, the Hawthorns head coach was losing allies both above and below him, making his long-term prospects less than secure.

So when, a fortnight ago, a story that Di Matteo had quit found its way to my door, it was tough to dismiss it in spite of the Baggies’ relatively strong league position.

It became clear quickly there had been no resignation, but several sources who dismissed that suggestion also confirmed all was not well.

They suggested the problems could yet be resolved. Clearly that was wishful thinking.

News of Di Matteo’s sacking still came as a shock when the rumours that had surfaced late yesterday morning were confirmed at lunchtime.

But it was the timing of the announcement, not its content, that caught us on the hop.

For despite the considerable accomplishments of his 19-month reign, Di Matteo failed to silence the nagging doubts in the dressing room or the boardroom.

His appointment in the summer of 2009 drew a lukewarm reception all-round, not least among a playing staff still reeling from Premier League relegation and Tony Mowbray’s defection to Celtic.

A flat pre-season trip to Slovenia saw players and staff struggle to adapt to the new regime, while Di Matteo’s hands-off management style was tough for several players to accept.

Some players respected Di Matteo’s analytical approach. Others resented what they perceived as a cold aloofness.

That dynamic remained an issue throughout his tenure although Eddie Newton, the Italian’s effervescent right-hand man, did appear to make a positive impression on the playing staff.

It appeared that the reservations had been overcome as Di Matteo’s charges made a fabulous start to the Championship season, remaining unbeaten for their first eight games to lay the foundations for a successful promotion challenge.

There were hiccups along the way, but each hurdle was overcome and promotion achieved thanks to Di Matteo’s greatest virtue – his decisiveness.

The former Italy star never shied away from a difficult decision, whether it was his total change of formation and personnel after defeat to Nottingham Forest, the skilful handling of his fall-out with Robert Koren or this season’s decision to axe Scott Carson.

Di Matteo always seemed able to stamp out a problem before it became a crisis – until the last three months.

His opening spell as a Premier League boss could hardly have gone better with impressive home victories, a courageous draw at Manchester United and an epic win at Arsenal that will remain his most enduring contribution to the Baggies annals.

But, from the moment their dismal slide down the table was triggered by the bizarre defeat on a miserable Monday in Blackpool, the Italian has carried the look of a passenger, powerless to alter the course of the juggernaut heading towards the drop zone.

The old doubts returned to the surface of the debate that ended yesterday with a ruthless decision from the Baggies board.

Commentators have been predictably quick to condemn chairman Jeremy Peace, who would have driven Saturday’s discussion even though each of his fellow directors endorsed the difficult decision.

Yet few who have witnessed the horrible defensive displays of recent weeks would dispute that something had to change.

Action should have come in the January transfer market, where Peace and sporting director Dan Ashworth could not deliver the attacking targetman or the new centre-back that Di Matteo wanted.

If the campaign ends in relegation, the duo will rightly have questions to answer.

But the decision to jettison Di Matteo was not as illogical – and certainly not as shocking – as it might at first appear.

Neither players nor directors were confident that Di Matteo was the man to save the season. Faced with that growing doubt, the men at the top felt they simply had to act.

The decision will split opinion, but the ultimate verdict will be delivered on the field – and the Premier League table on May 22.
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http://www.expressandstar.com/sport.../2011/02/07/why-was-roberto-di-matteo-sacked/
 
Nothing in that article really bothers me. So what if he failed at his first attempt at the PL. We are a very long way away from there at the moment!
 
Highbury_Blade said:
Nothing in that article really bothers me. So what if he failed at his first attempt at the PL. We are a very long way away from there at the moment!
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I agree, it sounds more like the West Brom players being too big for their boots to me.

RDM comes across as being strong-willed and courageous, I am really excited that we may well have found the right man at the right time.
 
I know some people that have met him here in the Midlands and he comes across as an arrogant knob. That's not to say this is a bad trait for a manager - courage of your convictions and a single minded attitude are very important.

I would question his longer term loyalty to any single cause but such detatchment could also be a factor in success. We have had many managers so embroilled in "the Blades way" that we may need someone that thinks less about the tradition and where we have come from to focus purely on where we need to get to.

One other area of concern I would have RDM is that he was a very decent player. Sometimes palyers of that calibre find it difficult to accept that players of lesser ability need constant encouragement and confidence building. They expect the players to be able to do the same things they did, consistently and with the same outcome - that doesn't always happen so he may wind people up so far that they will not play for him - sounds like this happened at WBA to some extent.

Anyway, I wouldn't be too disappointed if RDM was the choice but I wouldn't fuss about it if he wasn't.

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Sothall_Blade said:
The process seems to be following exactly the same pattern as last time:-

1) United are linked with a number of Ex-Owl managers who the fans wouldn't want. (Laws and Wilson this time, Megson last time).
This has the effect of softening us up, so whoever is eventually appointed we're just happy that Laws/Wilson/Megson didn't get it.

2) Senior Club Official goes on local radio and spells out the type of manager we're looking for.
Also drops strong hints that a popular choice is in the frame (Di Matteo this time, O'Driscoll last time). Excitement builds.

3) Popular choice discusses the job with McCabe and doesn't like what he's told.
I.e. "Any player we receive a bid for will be sold. We can't fight to keep the young players, if a team offers better wages they're off."
"You can't buy anyone or loan anybody. Just build an an attractive promotion-winning team with free transfers and kids please."

4) Popular choice announces he has no interest in the job and he can't understand why he was ever linked with it.

5) Ex-Blade and Ex-Owl suddenly emerge as the clear favourites for the job. Ex-Blade gets it to the great relief of the fans who certainly didn't want Ex-Owl.

6) Simmer gently for six months. Return to Step 1.
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Brilliant summation there Southall

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diplomat said:
A quick aside here but RDM apparently texted our chairman to tell him he was available.

Is it just me or wouldn't a phonecall be a bit more professional?
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Probo just you diplo.
Depends on whether he could get through on a call or not. If not then he would txt.
McCabe may only answer calls from people he knows and are in his address book.
Plenty of times I cannot get people on the blower only to txt them to call me later.
Standard procedure in business is that. email's another one.
Technology you see - it's there for productivity reasons.
 
BladeHearts said:
I agree, it sounds more like the West Brom players being too big for their boots to me.

RDM comes across as being strong-willed and courageous, I am really excited that we may well have found the right man at the right time.
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It sounds that his management style might mean he needs a number two who is closer to the players.

Would someone like Hodges bridge this gap? Great at spotting kids and working with the academy, he would work well with Pembo and has a good academy record, but he has also worked as a first team coach.
Sounds like a perfect fit for me, that might work, depending on if RDM and Hodges can work together.

Incidentally could the Craig Short rumours fit into this structure? Personally I'd prefer Hodges due to his record.
 
It's interesting when you compare the reaction to the article above and Robins sacking. One man's an arrogant prick, the other has acceptable traits :)
 

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