McCabe has to go

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

You've missed a great deal, then...

Please tell me how wanting a more ambitious owner makes me a pig

 

[Harrisblade]

Please tell me how wanting a more ambitious owner makes me a pig

Because of the title of the OP.
You could just have easily said "Is it time for McCabe to stand down" and you could have made exactly the same points.
Instead you made it into a demand and so showed yourself to be at best a twat and at worst, not a Blade.
The End.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Because of the title of the OP.
You could just have easily said "Is it time for McCabe to stand down" and you could have made exactly the same points.
Instead you made it into a demand and so showed yourself to be at best a twat and at worst, not a Blade.
The End.

Crikey some people need to chill on here only offering a reasonable argument that mccabe cant offer the ambition that a club our size should be showing.

 

[Harrisblade]

Crikey some people need to chill on here only offering a reasonable argument that mccabe cant offer the ambition that a club our size should be showing.

That's ok - I was just explaining why you come across as a pig more than a Blade

 

[ucandomagic]

Crikey some people need to chill on here only offering a reasonable argument that mccabe cant offer the ambition that a club our size should be showing.

Ambition is defined as a strong desire to achieve something. That something is different for every individual. Macbeth had vaulting ambition - which means that he was never satisfied - this eventually destroyed him.

We do not need to risk vast expenditure and debt to go forward too quickly where failure, which is more likely than success, means a rapid declining spiral.

Ambition for most of us now is to continue to move forward but without taking undue risks and losing our club for ever in the process.

Our strategy has worked unbelievably well to date, and the time to reassess it will be if and when our progress has started to slow. Then, and only then, do we need to decide whether we are happy at the level we have achieved or whether we should increase the risk at that time.

Ambition is getting to where you want to be, not getting where others think you should be and finding that it's not a very nice place.

Our club is still our club - keeping that should be the number one priority in any Blade's ambition.

The Magic is Back

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

If we are to get anywhere in the next few years McCabe has to sell up along with the fake sheikh.

This window was the perfect opportunity to show a bit of ambition. Nothing crazy just the opportunity to back wilder and see what he can do with a bit of sensible investment. Considering we've received 6/7 million in sales.

And we have spent nothing we've made a profit of 4/5 million. McCabe please leave

Bump bump bump

We are gonna be in the exact same position we were last year selling assets and not reinvesting , please Kevin get out of the club or we will never progress . We had the perfect opportunity in January to spend sensibly to push on and we spent nothing .
Don’t let wilders hard work be disguised as McCabes work the guy will never take us forward he will only take us backwards .

Thanks kev but let the prince takeover

 

[dazzlingblade]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Bladezz]

Wit on twitter (Wilders friend) has said JoC not going anywhere.

Panic over.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Bump bump bump

We are gonna be in the exact same position we were last year selling assets and not reinvesting , please Kevin get out of the club or we will never progress . We had the perfect opportunity in January to spend sensibly to push on and we spent nothing .
Don’t let wilders hard work be disguised as McCabes work the guy will never take us forward he will only take us backwards .

Thanks kev but let the prince takeover

2 questions:

How much should we have got for Brooks realistically?

If the money isn't being reinvested where will it be going?

 

[Blade for Sale]

Bump bump bump

We are gonna be in the exact same position we were last year selling assets and not reinvesting , please Kevin get out of the club or we will never progress . We had the perfect opportunity in January to spend sensibly to push on and we spent nothing .
Don’t let wilders hard work be disguised as McCabes work the guy will never take us forward he will only take us backwards .

Thanks kev but let the prince takeover

Do you have a detailed investment plan that you would like to present to said Prince? Are you able to present evidence of the amount of money McCabe has invested in SUFC during his tenure and put forward a proposal for how he extrapolates himself from the club in a legal and fair manner for all parties? Presumably you also have good sources to indicate that the Prince is going to be a generous benefactor to SUFC with the Club's interest 100% at heart? Or are you, like the vast majority of supporters, mainly ignorant of the relationship between SUFC, McCabe and the Prince, and in no position to comment from an educated standpoint? Jesus wept, one player sold and an underwhelming kit, combined with some rumours. I assume by the fact that you didn't commit suicide in the late 90s that you weren't around on Deane/Fjortoft day.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Yet we did invest last summer, and didn't have any significant outgoings?The big money that came into the club was from the Walker, Maguire and Murphy add ons; not new player sales. According to the prince, the summer transfers were paid for by these add ons - plus the expected annual losses.The January signings came out of the co-owners pockets.
That being said, McCabe has publically said that we need a new ownership model: people prepared to put in more personal capital. Owners at this level are allowed to put in 39 million over a three year cycle. United, I'd suggest, are running well below this, which is why McCabe wants the new ownership model. He feels this is necessary in order for us to be more competitive in the transfer market.

 

[South Bucks]

I don't see any hard evidence HRH really wants to take over or it would have happened by now and how many times do we see him at games?

Lets not forget the squabble in January was allegedly started by an action from one of Kev's companies, suggests he was not appey with something, I can guess, and HRH responded to it as anyone might who is trying to safeguard their investment or get the best price for it.

Despite a few mistakes over the years, Kev is currently our best and only option with no others around who are actually doing anything.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Yeah good call, we could get rid of Kev and follow the Aston Villa model

 

[Whiston Blade]

Despite a few mistakes over the years, Kev is currently our best and only option with no others around who are actually doing anything.

...and that is the cold hard depressing truth.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Another factor to add : Kevin McCabe is 70 yrs old, and has gone on record saying that his sons are not interested in taking over the club in his stead.Now I wish Kev a long life, but how much longer can he realistically continue as owner?

 

[itsinyerblood]

Crikey some people need to chill on here only offering a reasonable argument that mccabe cant offer the ambition that a club our size should be showing.

The trouble is your own timeline suggests that you don't view what's happened since your first post as being relatively successful.

You obviously demand success, and you want it now! As other posters have mentioned, you don't appear to have offered a coherent solution which puzzles said posters. Any buyers you can think of? Anyone on the horizon who'll fulfil your dream? It did cross my mind that should we achieve promotion, if we don't secure a top 10 spot will you demand a more assertive owner to take us to our supposedly 'rightful' position? I mention this because you offer a strangely familiar echo of wendy supporters and their delusion that they have a god-given right to the success that's so far evaded them. I'm not saying you're swine by nature, but by bleating the same tired refrain as our country cousins you dilute the effectiveness of your own message.

Almost every club is a selling club, including the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal, so we've got a long way to go before we can adopt anything other than a realistic position of ensuring that this club keeps afloat and pays the sizeable overhead that we manage to create each season. Which brings me back to your point about your post - any takers you have in mind? I suspect that McCabe would love to hand the keys over to an owner who had the best intentions for United and wouldn't treat the club in a cavalier manner, something your posts seem to have avoided considering. Until we're in the Premiership selling this club will become a harder proposition than you seem to imagine. A buyer might be found now, but would they match the price that McCabe needs to sell his ownership of the club? Then of course there's the Prince to consider, something that I suspect McCabe may regret having brought on board in the first place. So your idea about finding a new owner is not only simplistic, it fails to address the myriad questions that surround co-ownership of this club. Back to the drawing board for you I'm afraid.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

2 questions:

How much should we have got for Brooks realistically?

If the money isn't being reinvested where will it be going?

We will spend nothing like we did last year , Spending less than we got for the sell on clauses like we did last year with the brooks money this year , brooks will be used as a way to fund the summer signings but this just means that the board doesn’t have to put there hand in the pocket .

As a club we shouldn’t have to sell key players to have a reasonable budget.

McCabe is a joke and has been for a number of years the sooner he fu*** off the better .

And everyone sayin oh look at villa , no one is saying spend stupid ammomunts , just don’t sell our best players every season and show a bit of ambition.

If it wasn’t for wilder these last couple of years McCabe would have been hounded out

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

The trouble is your own timeline suggests that you don't view what's happened since your first post as being relatively successful.

You obviously demand success, and you want it now! As other posters have mentioned, you don't appear to have offered a coherent solution which puzzles said posters. Any buyers you can think of? Anyone on the horizon who'll fulfil your dream? It did cross my mind that should we achieve promotion, if we don't secure a top 10 spot will you demand a more assertive owner to take us to our supposedly 'rightful' position? I mention this because you offer a strangely familiar echo of wendy supporters and their delusion that they have a god-given right to the success that's so far evaded them. I'm not saying you're swine by nature, but by bleating the same tired refrain as our country cousins you dilute the effectiveness of your own message.

Almost every club is a selling club, including the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal, so we've got a long way to go before we can adopt anything other than a realistic position of ensuring that this club keeps afloat and pays the sizeable overhead that we manage to create each season. Which brings me back to your point about your post - any takers you have in mind? I suspect that McCabe would love to hand the keys over to an owner who had the best intentions for United and wouldn't treat the club in a cavalier manner, something your posts seem to have avoided considering. Until we're in the Premiership selling this club will become a harder proposition than you seem to imagine. A buyer might be found now, but would they match the price that McCabe needs to sell his ownership of the club? Then of course there's the Prince to consider, something that I suspect McCabe may regret having brought on board in the first place. So your idea about finding a new owner is not only simplistic, it fails to address the myriad questions that surround co-ownership of this club. Back to the drawing board for you I'm afraid.

...and that is the cold hard depressing truth.

No no it is not Leeds / forest have both got new ambitious owners/investors in the last year

 

[Houston_Blade]

We will spend nothing like we did last year , Spending less than we got for the sell on clauses like we did last year with the brooks money this year , brooks will be used as a way to fund the summer signings but this just means that the board doesn’t have to put there hand in the pocket .

As a club we shouldn’t have to sell key players to have a reasonable budget.

McCabe is a joke and has been for a number of years the sooner he fu*** off the better .

And everyone sayin oh look at villa , no one is saying spend stupid ammomunts , just don’t sell our best players every season and show a bit of ambition.

If it wasn’t for wilder these last couple of years McCabe would have been hounded out

But you said the money wouldn't be reinvested, so where is it going?

 

[itsinyerblood]

No no it is not Leeds / forest have both got new ambitious owners/investors in the last year

The fact that your response was so knee-jerk tells me that you don't understand the economics of running a club. You need to take a step back, consider the reasons why some owners gamble so profligately, without too much thought to what their gambles might end up doing to their clubs. Yes, Forest are spending, just as Villa have done. Maybe you ought to think whether this is a never-ending treadmill where money can keep being invested without a thought to a day of financial reckoning?

Better still, look at the owner of the pigs, one minute spending millions, now he's not willing to spend in exactly the same manner. Why do you think that is?

 

[BladeInIreland]

All name calling, accusations of pocketing money etc aside the obvious valid point remains.
Kev doesn't have the money to mount a serious push. If he had last January would of been the time.
We do need a new owner to progress, but that's been the case for a long time now and I hope it happens while we still have wilder.
Imo Wilder + ambitious owner = established premier league club.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

The fact that your response was so knee-jerk tells me that you don't understand the economics of running a club. You need to take a step back, consider the reasons why some owners gamble so profligately, without too much thought to what their gambles might end up doing to their clubs. Yes, Forest are spending, just as Villa have done. Maybe you ought to think whether this is a never-ending treadmill where money can keep being invested without a thought to a day of financial reckoning?

Better still, look at the owner of the pigs, one minute spending millions, now he's not willing to spend in exactly the same manner. Why do you think that is?

I mean it’s pretty simple when you owner sells all your best players and then only uses a small fraction of that money to sign inadequate replacements that owner isn’t a very good one no matter how much anyone tries to shape it up .

Please stop trying to dress it up any differently if McCabe wasn’t a blade from Sheffield there is no way he would be treated as favorably as this

 

[Sean Thornton]

We will spend nothing like we did last year , Spending less than we got for the sell on clauses like we did last year with the brooks money this year , brooks will be used as a way to fund the summer signings but this just means that the board doesn’t have to put there hand in the pocket .

As a club we shouldn’t have to sell key players to have a reasonable budget.

McCabe is a joke and has been for a number of years the sooner he fu*** off the better .

And everyone sayin oh look at villa , no one is saying spend stupid ammomunts , just don’t sell our best players every season and show a bit of ambition.

If it wasn’t for wilder these last couple of years McCabe would have been hounded out

You start off saying we won't spend anything like last year but go onto say the Brooks money will fund the summer signings. Which are?
If the Brooks money goes on the team - depending which of your claims is to be believed obviously, who funds any losses?

 

[Esablade]

All name calling, accusations of pocketing money etc aside the obvious valid point remains.
Kev doesn't have the money to mount a serious push. If he had last January would of been the time.
We do need a new owner to progress, but that's been the case for a long time now and I hope it happens while we still have wilder.
Imo Wilder + ambitious owner = established premier league club.

It’s been the case for a long time and I believe McCabe has stated he wants to leave...obviously the club means a lot to him and it’s very difficult letting go...he’ll never find a perfect ‘investor’ , we just have to hope Wilder does the business on what he’s got and we get up/tempt someone to come in with big-bucks and an offer McCabe can’t refuse.

UTB!

 

[itsinyerblood]

I mean it’s pretty simple when you owner sells all your best players and then only uses a small fraction of that money to sign inadequate replacements that owner isn’t a very good one no matter how much anyone tries to shape it up .

Please stop trying to dress it up any differently if McCabe wasn’t a blade from Sheffield there is no way he would be treated as favorably as this

Thanks.......your failure to address the realities of what it means to run a club are glaringly obvious. I hope you're not self-employed.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I mean it’s pretty simple when you owner sells all your best players and then only uses a small fraction of that money to sign inadequate replacements that owner isn’t a very good one no matter how much anyone tries to shape it up .

Please stop trying to dress it up any differently if McCabe wasn’t a blade from Sheffield there is no way he would be treated as favorably as this

You want the Prince to take over whilst seemingly forgetting he's part of these decisions?

 

[Revolution]

All name calling, accusations of pocketing money etc aside the obvious valid point remains.
Kev doesn't have the money to mount a serious push. If he had last January would of been the time.
We do need a new owner to progress, but that's been the case for a long time now and I hope it happens while we still have wilder.
Imo Wilder + ambitious owner = established premier league club.

I hope it happens in my lifetime.

 

[Silent Blade]

Bump bump bump

We are gonna be in the exact same position we were last year selling assets and not reinvesting , please Kevin get out of the club or we will never progress . We had the perfect opportunity in January to spend sensibly to push on and we spent nothing .
Don’t let wilders hard work be disguised as McCabes work the guy will never take us forward he will only take us backwards .

Thanks kev but let the prince takeover

Have I just woken up and realized that the transfer window has closed?

 

[snootyfenooty]

The trouble is your own timeline suggests that you don't view what's happened since your first post as being relatively successful.

You obviously demand success, and you want it now! As other posters have mentioned, you don't appear to have offered a coherent solution which puzzles said posters. Any buyers you can think of? Anyone on the horizon who'll fulfil your dream? It did cross my mind that should we achieve promotion, if we don't secure a top 10 spot will you demand a more assertive owner to take us to our supposedly 'rightful' position? I mention this because you offer a strangely familiar echo of wendy supporters and their delusion that they have a god-given right to the success that's so far evaded them. I'm not saying you're swine by nature, but by bleating the same tired refrain as our country cousins you dilute the effectiveness of your own message.

Almost every club is a selling club, including the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal, so we've got a long way to go before we can adopt anything other than a realistic position of ensuring that this club keeps afloat and pays the sizeable overhead that we manage to create each season. Which brings me back to your point about your post - any takers you have in mind? I suspect that McCabe would love to hand the keys over to an owner who had the best intentions for United and wouldn't treat the club in a cavalier manner, something your posts seem to have avoided considering. Until we're in the Premiership selling this club will become a harder proposition than you seem to imagine. A buyer might be found now, but would they match the price that McCabe needs to sell his ownership of the club? Then of course there's the Prince to consider, something that I suspect McCabe may regret having brought on board in the first place. So your idea about finding a new owner is not only simplistic, it fails to address the myriad questions that surround co-ownership of this club. Back to the drawing board for you I'm afraid.

He's a pig on the wind-up ffs.

 

[Maidenhead]

We will spend nothing like we did last year , Spending less than we got for the sell on clauses like we did last year with the brooks money this year , brooks will be used as a way to fund the summer signings but this just means that the board doesn’t have to put there hand in the pocket .

As a club we shouldn’t have to sell key players to have a reasonable budget.

McCabe is a joke and has been for a number of years the sooner he fu*** off the better .

And everyone sayin oh look at villa , no one is saying spend stupid ammomunts , just don’t sell our best players every season and show a bit of ambition.

If it wasn’t for wilder these last couple of years McCabe would have been hounded out

Transfer fees are dead money.

I think that when the accounts covering last season are published they will show a significant increase in our wage bill, that's proper investment in the team.

Take it one year forward and when the accounts covering next season are published I would expect yet another significant uplift in the wage bill.

Once again that's called investing in the team in a sustainable and progressive manner, so once again, why are you so hooked on transfer fees? and why do you think we have spent nothing?