McCabe has to go

[grafikhaus]

TBH graf I think the voices slagging McCabe for not 'backing the manager' are now few. He has backed CW (or we would have heard it from CW himself) to the 'best of his ability'. He can't compete with the multi billionaires and the reward for failure amounts of PL money coming into the championship.

Something is going to happen, it can't go on like this, rich clubs, rich players on a million a month vs clubs on the brink of bankruptcy and talented players sat on the sidelines unable to play competitive football until negotiations begin in January.

That's not sustainable!

But I'm afraid it is. Like billionaires in London living cheek by jowl with the homeless (or in Hong Kong in that programme the other night), what keeps it sustainable is that 'the system' is set up to favour the rich and influential. I'm old enough to keep my aspirations reasonable. K. Mac sits not far from me at most home games. Have you ever looked at your house and thought 'that gutter will need fixing soon' or 'I'll have to decorate the outside soon'. Well, for Mr. McCabe, our fabulous stadium is just one of his 'houses'. The running costs must be astronomical, but people still accuse him of parsimony.

Football is littered with 'owners' who went for 'shit or bust'. Chansiri is just one of them, along with the criminals in charge at Birmingham. We had years of looking at the bomb site that was John Street. Wendy watch the rust grow in front of their eyes while mercenaries pocket the cash and fuck off.

 

[Blade56]

But I'm afraid it is. Like billionaires in London living cheek by jowl with the homeless (or in Hong Kong in that programme the other night), what keeps it sustainable is that 'the system' is set up to favour the rich and influential. I'm old enough to keep my aspirations reasonable. K. Mac sits not far from me at most home games. Have you ever looked at your house and thought 'that gutter will need fixing soon' or 'I'll have to decorate the outside soon'. Well, for Mr. McCabe, our fabulous stadium is just one of his 'houses'. The running costs must be astronomical, but people still accuse him of parsimony.

Football is littered with 'owners' who went for 'shit or bust'. Chansiri is just one of them, along with the criminals in charge at Birmingham. We had years of looking at the bomb site that was John Street. Wendy watch the rust grow in front of their eyes while mercenaries pocket the cash and fuck off.

 

[Geordie Blade]

We have made 4/5 mill this transfer window.

WE HAVE SPENT NOTHING

Any chance that you could show your calculations?

 

[Benny and the Blades]

We all have differing points of view but hey!!! that's what keeps us coming back. Long live the forum and God save the Blades......

 

[Rodley]

The game is changing almost daily. What would have once bought you a detached house wouldn't get you a terrace nowadays. Wendy have splashed the cash in a way that United could never have dreamt about, missed their chance in the last two seasons and now see clubs like Middlesborough and Birmingham leaving them for dead. United can't compete with the big boys, but so what? This morning that applies to Wenger and Klopp.

None of these clubs that have been spending unsustainable sums need worry - the spineless fucks who 'run' our game will ignore the likes of Bolton, QPR, Leicester, Wendy etc. and clobber the likes of Luton and Rotherham.

Shit managers such as Guardiola (and Redknapp + Carvalhal) spend huge sums to mask the fact that they're not very good at their job. The same people who are slating McCabe for not 'backing the manager' would have been delighted if he'd given huge sums to useless lumps such as Clough or Adkins. Thank God he didn't. While United's approach may not be spectacular, it's sustainable. Clubs like Wendy are like watching that sad old tramp in the bookies putting his last fiver into a FOBT. They can waste huge sums on the wages for some no-mark player, but choose to cover a rusty, decrepit stand with a piece of fucking tarpaulin. 'Consilio et animis'? More like 'Fur coat and no knickers'.

I agree, but do think we've been a bit slow getting deals over the line. It's a learning process for the new transfer guys and CW; it's their first transfer window at this level don't forget.

I hope the pencil is sharper in January, but I'm generally pretty happy with the business done so far. We've kept Brooks as well and I hope Whiteman has enough to be recalled if needs be. Wilder and Mitchell have such a good eye for a player, I think we'll be pleasantly surprised by the new signings.

A good barometer isn't paying too much heed to the people on here who are always unhappy, always moaning. If you gave them £100,000 they'd complain it wasn't £101,000. You're better off watching people who criticise when it's shit and are happy when it's good. I think most people are happy overall with SUFC, re: JTW probably hoped a little bit more in terms of spend but are willing to trust Wilder and his recruitment team. And it could be worse, you could have Carlos in charge whose swopped out your only decent striker for another money grabber!

So UTB - bring on the Mackems!

 

[The Crab]

We don't know how much money McCabe / Prince were willing to back Wilder with, so it seems daft to slag off the owners on the basis of pure speculation. For all we know, deals that fell through involved significant investment.

That said, it is frustrating in that we are sitting in 5th place and with some good investment in quality in the right areas, could be knocking on the door of the Premier League for next season. That is the prize and we should be moving heaven and earth to grab it.

I take your point generally. But for me, the moving heaven and earth stuff should be left whilst January. Why do I think that? Well. you're right about the start we've had, it's very good but IMHO it's just the start of laying the foundations. If we lose 2 or three on the spin against the "better" sides (basically what we did against Boro & Cardiff) then suddenly the picture becomes a little less clear.

So for me, we have a side that is doing well so far, lets see how things pan out between now and January. That will be a pivotal window because we will either need to buy for the big push to go up, or buy to stay in this division. Lets hope it's the former rather than the latter.

 

[CrookesBlade]

I not that disappointed, but more honesty from the Board would be better. Macabe has made sweeping statements about investment will go up significantly after promotion to the championship etc, we are going to go for it! etc. Be better if the powers that be said were just looking to stay in the divison this year and try our best. When you give out mixed messages to people, thats when the trouble starts. One things for sure, anything above midtable for us this year will be a great achievement.

Its a fair point. McCabe's biggest problem is when he opens his gob. Most of his statements come back to bite him in one way or another, needs to manage expectations.

The impression is that the club is fairly sustainable and sensibly run these days but we don't have the cash to compete on fees and wages with probably about 70% of the division.

Its been a reasonable window, kept our best players and made some decent additions to strengthen, which is what we need to do year on year.

 

[dazzlingblade]

Hahahah ok mate so your happy with the board of your club showing 0 ambition , we should have spent money without the incoming sell ons. We have made 4/5 mill this transfer window.
Looks like McCabes happy to ride the wilder wave and show that he doesn't have to invest in the team.

And no I'm not asking for a boom or bust transfer spending just a few decent up and coming signs to show we're ambitious in the championship. WE HAVE SPENT NOTHING

we have signed 9 players, some with fees some without, all commanding wages, i think we have spent a fair bit actually, funny we all say we trust in wilder, who has come out and said he was scuppered by agents, yet you still choose to slag the board, your either a pig or a cretin, or both

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Whilst it can't be denied that we have offered decent sums for players, you have to take your hats off to the Blackburn, Southend and Fleetwood chairmen for drawing a line in the sand. This is what we want, pay up or he's going nowhere. This despite it being known that each player wanted to come to the lane.

Wish we could have done that when Wier was building his team around McDonald.

 

[Boxer Blade]

How did you come by your name Mr.wise one, unity at the club the best in years and as soon as something happens where we are slightly disappointed you come along and spit your dummy out, tell me how you know so much about what has gone off behind the scenes, suprised you have so much time to make these educated comments when you have your multi national empire to run.

 

[Barney]

We went from "When a players head gets turned there's nothing you can do" to "You can't force clubs to sell" real quick.

 

[snootyfenooty]

The impression is that the club is fairly sustainable and sensibly run these days but we don't have the cash to compete on fees and wages with probably about 70% of the division.

The point that's been missed is that many of the other 70% of the clubs can't afford what they're doing either. They're just taking a huge gamble and will pay the consequences later, the pigs being a prime example. Fuck 'em, I can't wait for the implosions to start and for a change we won't be amongst them.

 

[metalblade]

The one that makes me laugh is the line that McCabe and the fake Sheik are putting millions in every year just to keep us afloat. Are we a special sort of club? Don't the rest of the championship have exactly the same expenses? Not all have parachute payments or billionaire owners and a lot have to survive on crowds of sub 15,000 not the 25k + that we enjoy. A £5-6m windfall and we still can't afford to bring a bit of pace through the door.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Never said we could. I'm pointing out that had we not received the sell on money, we would've covered the running costs . So the luxury of unexpected incoming money should be set aside to go straight back in to the team in my opinion, and not used up to help cover the running costs. The running costs should be dealt with exactly how we were planning to do so before we received any sell on money.

9 players in, 9 fees, 9 contracts. I'm struggling to see where this 'luxury' money has definitely not been spent on the team. Add in new contracts for Sharp, Coutts, Fleck, Wilder and Knill and it's hard to see anything else.

As for those wanting McCabe to sell up and leave (not particularly you Barney), fine to have that opinion but with it you also have to own the departure of Wilder. A new billionaire owner from wherever, as has been shown countless times, will want some flash Spanish/Italian/Portuguese/South American to be manager irrespective of how successful the current incumbent my be. Fine at the likes of Chelsea and Man City, not so great at Cardiff and Wednesday it seems and Wolves and Birmingham may be joining them.

 

[Oohaah! Bob Bookah!]

May be we should have sacked Wilder, appointed Redknapp and spent 20 odd million (for the pedants- this is a guess) on umpteen players and hope they gel in to some semblance of a football team.

I, for one, am enjoying our current philosophy, where each player gives us 100% every game and they are not just triers, we have enough quality players like Coutts, Fleck and Duffy to play some exciting, entertaining football. Players who also seem to have an affinity with the club and the fans.

Long may our current crest of a wave continue.

UTB

 

[McGrath]

Oh..... You take your right knee out, you jerk it all about... in out, in out, jerk it all about

 

[blade too long]

its 10 this window

all had fees
some not as low as some make out for their argument
all want paying wages,,, championship wages

Wilder has said nothing but praise for the way hes been supported
if hes happy Im happy

We didnt get 2 or 3 we put in multi million pound bids for in this window , as the clubs held on
how is that mccabe or Wilders fault

we hung on to freeman , and brooks and possibly others enquired about

there will be more in January as mccabe will back any moves Wilder can finalise

but we wanted more centre back cover , we got it we wanted an experienced forward , we got one
one with natural pace so hes over 30 so is usain bolt and cant say he hasnt got pace

 

[georgebernardshaw]

If we are to get anywhere in the next few years McCabe has to sell up along with the fake sheikh.

This window was the perfect opportunity to show a bit of ambition. Nothing crazy just the opportunity to back wilder and see what he can do with a bit of sensible investment. Considering we've received 6/7 million in sales.

And we have spent nothing we've made a profit of 4/5 million. McCabe please leave

Complete and utter bollocks.

 

[blades78]

Personally, I think we have done reasonably well in terms of signings. We ve only really committed a big outlay on Stearman who has played all his career at Prem and Championship level. I'm glad we haven't got dragged into the desperate deals and just spent millions on a player that has done well for the last 6 mths.

I'm more pleased that we haven't lost a key player!! I was dreading a late bid for Coutts in particular. I seriously doubt we could replace him.

Lets see where we are league position wise in January and then we will know what funds we really have available. May need to strengthen to stay up or even be in with a chance of a play off place.

 

[steve26272]

the whole point of a forum is to encourage and embrace conversation, differing points of view and even the odd argument.
however the only consistent i read on here is that we all back Wilder, and trust his judgement. He came out on day 1 and said he would only bring in players that fit his philosophy, and won't pay over the odds for players. Looking at the 10signings he has made this window would anyone say he had swerved from that? Probably not. Has he come out and said he is happy with the recruitment and is happy with the support of the board? Yes.
so are we now saying we don't trust him and he's a liar?

 

[Harrisblade]

We went from "When a players head gets turned there's nothing you can do" to "You can't force clubs to sell" real quick.

That'll depend on whether you're a buyer or a seller.
I don't think for a minute that we're the only club that's ever tried to have it both ways
Even Arsenal were prepared to say goodbye to Sanchez (indeed were advised to by many) but they were strong enough (wealthy enough?) to at least have the caveat of signing a replacement first

 

[Good Pinch Of Snuff]

The one that makes me laugh is the line that McCabe and the fake Sheik are putting millions in every year just to keep us afloat. Are we a special sort of club? Don't the rest of the championship have exactly the same expenses? Not all have parachute payments or billionaire owners and a lot have to survive on crowds of sub 15,000 not the 25k + that we enjoy. A £5-6m windfall and we still can't afford to bring a bit of pace through the door.

THIS

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

There isn't along list of people queuing to buy football clubs. Very few people have the money, interest and lack of business acumen to buy a football club.

For those wishing for McCabe to move on: what is your alternative?

Wrong in the past 2/3 years Leeds / Birmingham / wolves / Wendy / have all got new owners and are now splashing the cash and showing the ambition to go up.
Are we in a better position for an investor than all those I'd say yes were debt free which is likely the most important thing for an investor

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Fuck me I can't even be arsed to reason with the dim witted, idiotic, simple minded bell ends who spout crap like the OP.

It's hard to believe people that thick actually manage to function in life...dear me.

We have the best manager in the league with one of the lowest budget

How did you come by your name Mr.wise one, unity at the club the best in years and as soon as something happens where we are slightly disappointed you come along and spit your dummy out, tell me how you know so much about what has gone off behind the scenes, suprised you have so much time to make these educated comments when you have your multi national empire to run.

I'm not spitting the dummy out , this is the best it's been for 10 years it's fantastic.
We have one of the best managers in the league. But we haven't spent enough to back him . Yes we have spent money but we have more than recouped that through sell ons.
Just cause we have made a decent start shouldn't mask the fact wilder hasn't been backed enough for a team newly promoted and receiving 6/7 million as widely reported.

Don't think anyone can disagree that new ownership is needed if we are to become more ambitious and look at achieving promotion. Unless McCabe and the fake sheikh decide to put there hand in there pocket.
We're not a league one team anymore and we aren't Burton Albion

 

[Chali 2na]

Wrong in the past 2/3 years Leeds / Birmingham / wolves / Wendy / have all got new owners and are now splashing the cash and showing the ambition to go up.
Are we in a better position for an investor than all those I'd say yes were debt free which is likely the most important thing for an investor

Good for them, what does that have to do with us?
Do you think our owners have been constantly turning down offers to take over?

Based on your posts, I highly doubt your in a position to determine how attractive we are to an investor.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Good for them, what does that have to do with us?
Do you think our owners have been constantly turning down offers to take over?

Based on your posts, I highly doubt your in a position to determine how attractive we are to an investor.

So Wednesday in millions of debt same for wolves and Birmingham would be more attractive investments. Not rocket science

It has a lot to do with us they are our direct rivals in our league if other teams can afford to pay more than us they have an advantage.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

So Wednesday in millions of debt same for wolves and Birmingham would be more attractive investments.

Not rocket science

It has a lot to do with us they are our direct rivals in our league if other teams can afford to pay more than us they have an advantage.

Len?

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

Hahahah ok mate so your happy with the board of your club showing 0 ambition , we should have spent money without the incoming sell ons. We have made 4/5 mill this transfer window.
Looks like McCabes happy to ride the wilder wave and show that he doesn't have to invest in the team.

And no I'm not asking for a boom or bust transfer spending just a few decent up and coming signs to show we're ambitious in the championship. WE HAVE SPENT NOTHING

Sounds to me like you would have been happier if we`d spent, for example, £4million on Fleck and £3million on O`Connell, but because they cost nothing or next to nothing, you are upset. You seem also to take no account of CW`s attempts to sign three other players and the potential cost. To say that McCabe has no ambition does not equate with his track record of support for the club.

 

[Chali 2na]

So Wednesday in millions of debt same for wolves and Birmingham would be more attractive investments. Not rocket science

It has a lot to do with us they are our direct rivals in our league if other teams can afford to pay more than us they have an advantage.

Yeah, but I'm telling you it's all conjecture: do you think McCabe and the Prince rejected an offer from Chansiri before he chose Wednesday?

All your hysteria is based on presumption.

I think we probably are an attractive investment for someone, but because potential owners are so uncommon, we should be patient and happy that we have an owner who is taking us forward.
We shouldn't start crying because other teams have wealthier owners than us.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Sounds to me like you would have been happier if we`d spent, for example, £4million on Fleck and £3million on O`Connell, but because they cost nothing or next to nothing, you are upset. You seem also to take no account of CW`s attempts to sign three other players and the potential cost. To say that McCabe has no ambition does not equate with his track record of support for the club.

Not at all we have made the best value for money signings easily. But that's down to wilder. Imagine what he could do if he could have spent the whole sell on fees we received. Again we have spent nothing compared with what we have received