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Cheesebored said:
It's not about liking him. It's about how he can improve Sheffield United. I think all things considered he's been a poor signing overall. That's an opinion. If you disagree that's fine, that's your opinion and your perogative.
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Who would you have replaced him with in the last window, to get a better squad?
 

Nick Jansky said:
Wasn’t he right up there in the scoring charts last season? Alongside his strike partner, despite having far fewer appearances?

Check out his goal involvements per minutes played in the last 12 months. It couldn’t be objectively described as any less than good by anyone without an agenda.
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He's our CF. Surely you'd concede he ought to be expected to be our top scorer?
 
Nick Jansky said:
Doesn’t necessarily follow. Goals & assists is the key measure. How were those stats for him last season?
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Other than penalty takers which clubs leading scorers weren't forward players? The stats look decent if taken at face value.
 
Berkshire Blade said:
From the guy only counting from a game and a half ago?

The Luton game was his second start of the season. The game before he was desperately unlucky if I recall correctly. The Luton game was the 4th game or so of the season. It's a while ago now.

You can keep making your point if you want but the facts speak for themselves and your opinion has blinded you.
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It’s a well made point that Cheesie makes.

I’d agree with him in that in his first four seasons at the club AND FOR WHATEVER REASONS YOU MIGHT CONJURE UP, his contribution would be accurately described as 80% bobbar, 10% bang average and 10% decent.

Let us ALL now hope that these descriptives can be wholly turned around, that he becomes a significant on field asset (as has been the case thus far this season), and Earns himself a new contract.

UTB
 
DronnieBlade said:
It’s a well made point that Cheesie makes.

I’d agree with him in that in his first four seasons at the club AND FOR WHATEVER REASONS YOU MIGHT CONJURE UP, his contribution would be accurately described as 80% bobbar, 10% bang average and 10% decent.

Let us ALL now hope that these descriptives can be wholly turned around, that he becomes a significant on field asset (as has been the case thus far this season), and Earns himself a new contract.

UTB
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Your percentages ignore the first PL season in which he was consistently very good, as he was last season when fit.
You don't rate him, which is fair enough but it's nowhere near the percentages you are suggesting.
Announcing that he's signed a new contract would be huge for our currently rebuild.
 
DronnieBlade said:
It’s a well made point that Cheesie makes.

I’d agree with him in that in his first four seasons at the club AND FOR WHATEVER REASONS YOU MIGHT CONJURE UP, his contribution would be accurately described as 80% bobbar, 10% bang average and 10% decent.

Let us ALL now hope that these descriptives can be wholly turned around, that he becomes a significant on field asset (as has been the case thus far this season), and Earns himself a new contract.

UTB
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10% decent 😂 if Billy had done what he’d done you’d be using a very different adjective there. And it would be much different in terms of percentages.

Agenda.
 
Cheesebored said:
Reaching? You mean you know the answer. Happy to disagree and leave it.
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You started by talking about "Centre Forward", then changed it to "forward players" once that suited your agenda. the CF is quite often not the leading scorer.

We were also talking about goal involvements, not just goals.
 

DronnieBlade said:
It’s a well made point that Cheesie makes.

I’d agree with him in that in his first four seasons at the club AND FOR WHATEVER REASONS YOU MIGHT CONJURE UP, his contribution would be accurately described as 80% bobbar, 10% bang average and 10% decent.

Let us ALL now hope that these descriptives can be wholly turned around, that he becomes a significant on field asset (as has been the case thus far this season), and Earns himself a new contract.

UTB
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I really can't imagine that anyone, ever, is going to listen to you about football. You were discredited years ago.
 
Cheesebored said:
It's not about liking him. It's about how he can improve Sheffield United. I think all things considered he's been a poor signing overall. That's an opinion. If you disagree that's fine, that's your opinion and your perogative.
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We had this debate on shoutbox.

I think at £20m we maybe overpaid slightly for McBurnie, but not by a great deal.

It costs £12-15m to get a striker who can guarantee you 15 goals and help you get promoted to the PL and he did that.
He also did OK in his first season here, bagging 6 goals in the PL.
The bit in the middle wasn't good at all but the team wasn't great and he had a lot of injuries.

There aren't many strikers who've done much better than him at a significantly lower price point.
I just hope he can consistently be the player he was on Saturday and the beginning of last season. If he reaches that level for 25+ games this season he'll have returned on investment.

The problem with him is his availability and consistency, there is a lot of qualities in there.
He's also matured massively under PH & co and seems to be stepping into a leadership role in the squad. He's well liked and that goes a long way.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Your percentages ignore the first PL season in which he was consistently very good, as he was last season when fit.
You don't rate him, which is fair enough but it's nowhere near the percentages you are suggesting.
Announcing that he's signed a new contract would be huge for our currently rebuild.
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I don’t agree that he was consistently very good in the first PL season as you and others do. Far from it. Evidence is there.

I don’t agree that he tore us a new one in performances for Swansea and Barnsley as you and others do. Far from it. Evidence is there.

I don’t therefore agree that Wilder spent this money wisely or that “overall” his contribution has amounted to much at all. In the first 3 seasons.

I CAN agree that his performance levels upticked significantly in the first half of last season. And then dropped back again !

So my 80% is based on statistical evidence and what these bad boys tell me based on watching every single minute of every single game he has played. These bad boys 👀 !

There is no agenda. That’s far too convenient for anyone not looking at the situation objectively to dismiss without foundation. An easy out !

I would however suggest that his Jack the lad social media activity has allowed a certain number of 20 somethings to take to him far more as a person than perhaps has been merited based on his performances on the pitch. Maybe.

I am thus somewhat perplexed as to why such a good footballer, as many of you are confident in stating, entering the last year of his contract (both last year and this) does NOT attract transfer speculation. Any transfer speculation in fact. Maybe there is stuff I / we don’t know about here, but it is puzzling nonetheless !

I can also agree he has looked like a bloody effective footballer so far this season.

Keep it up lad 👍.

UTB
 
His performance on Saturday was excellent - we have no one else ready to play his role - I hope he's inspired by Archer's arrival and stays fit and on form - he also didn't do any silly moaning at the ref which might show he's maturing a bit.
I can't be bothered about the contract side of things but let's make sure we keep him happy
 
Slim Man said:
10% decent 😂 if Billy had done what he’d done you’d be using a very different adjective there. And it would be much different in terms of percentages.

Agenda.
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Not the point.

However.

In the first PL season when you and others confidently state McB did well, consistently well in fact, by how much of a gap did he have on Sharp. Statistically that is.

Not as clear cut as you suggest. Is it ?

Sharp is yesterdays chip paper. GLTTL.

But a direct Sharp vs McB debate has already been had and, inconveniently, twas a landslide !

Disproving, once again, the “agenda” bollocks that is sometimes spouted, I will continue to back McB IF his performances remain consistent throughout the season at a reasonable level.

Not asking too much. Is it ?😉.

UTB
 

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