Mcburnie

[derfblade.3]

Ollie on form is a real handful for any defence. I love the guy. He inspires the lads and the crowd when he does the hard running and putting his head and arse in and owns his space upfront.
I was one of the undecided when he wasn't showing us much but the guy has good control and high aggression and leads the line and brings the midfield into play.
Keep it up Ollie lad.

 

[petcharlie]

I don’t agree that he was consistently very good in the first PL season as you and others do. Far from it. Evidence is there.

I don’t agree that he tore us a new one in performances for Swansea and Barnsley as you and others do. Far from it. Evidence is there.

I don’t therefore agree that Wilder spent this money wisely or that “overall” his contribution has amounted to much at all. In the first 3 seasons.

I CAN agree that his performance levels upticked significantly in the first half of last season. And then dropped back again !

So my 80% is based on statistical evidence and what these bad boys tell me based on watching every single minute of every single game he has played. These bad boys !

There is no agenda. That’s far too convenient for anyone not looking at the situation objectively to dismiss without foundation. An easy out !

I would however suggest that his Jack the lad social media activity has allowed a certain number of 20 somethings to take to him far more as a person than perhaps has been merited based on his performances on the pitch. Maybe.

I am thus somewhat perplexed as to why such a good footballer, as many of you are confident in stating, entering the last year of his contract (both last year and this) does NOT attract transfer speculation. Any transfer speculation in fact. Maybe there is stuff I / we don’t know about here, but it is puzzling nonetheless !

I can also agree he has looked like a bloody effective footballer so far this season.

Keep it up lad .

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I think that just about sums him up . I have never been a huge lover of him to be honest but up to now this season he seems to have improved some what . He is also useful defending corners and free kicks but he gets paid as a striker which sometimes he struggles with . Hope his new found form is not just a case of a new contract on the horizon,hope not and he continues with his up turn in form. Just want some goals from him now .

 

[DronnieBlade]

What? I didn't say anything about 4 years.

No you’d prefer it to be over 2 hours.

I don’t blame ya !

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[LJBlade]

No you’d prefer it to be over 2 hours.

I don’t blame ya !

UTB

So you aren't going to provide the evidence then?

 

[DronnieBlade]

So you aren't going to provide the evidence then?

Done it many times before. No intention of doing it again while I’m in a pro Oli mood . Serves no purpose.

But, emphatically, the evidence is out there.

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[LJBlade]

Done it many times before. No intention of doing it again while I’m in a pro Oli mood . Serves no purpose.

But, emphatically, the evidence is out there.

UTB

If the 'evidence' was that clear cut and as obvious as you're suggesting I have no doubts that you'd be providing it. But you aren't.

You haven't done it many times before either. Every time you're asked you do exactly what you're doing now, swerving the issue.

 

[Cheesebored]

I think that just about sums him up . I have never been a huge lover of him to be honest but up to now this season he seems to have improved some what . He is also useful defending corners and free kicks but he gets paid as a striker which sometimes he struggles with . Hope his new found form is not just a case of a new contract on the horizon,hope not and he continues with his up turn in form. Just want some goals from him now .

For Christ's sake don't used joined up thinking, it baffles em.

 

[DronnieBlade]

If the 'evidence' was that clear cut and as obvious as you're suggesting I have no doubts that you'd be providing it. But you aren't.

You haven't done it many times before either. Every time you're asked you do exactly what you're doing now, swerving the issue.

You obviously are not one of my many stalkers then !

Good on ya .

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[Cheesebored]

Aye
Do you want the ‘grand’ or not ?

What are you (wittering) on about now. I'm not (trawling)/searching through all your previous posts. Make a valid argument for Mcburnie being value for money/stroke good player or don't bother commenting. I've tried my best to help you (understand).

 

[LJBlade]

You obviously are not one of my many stalkers then !

Good on ya .

UTB

I'm not sure who your stalkers are but I think your propensity to talk bollocks and avoid providing any real detail is well known across the entire forum.

 

[petcharlie]

Done it many times before. No intention of doing it again while I’m in a pro Oli mood . Serves no purpose.

But, emphatically, the evidence is out there.

UTB

It makes me smile when someone demands "Evidence" to back up ones take on a subject being discussed .I could not be arsed to scroll through loads and loads of data to make a point which i think is true and sometimes the person asking for prove knows this . I personally I have not got such time to spend on trivial matters .

 

[DronnieBlade]

I'm not sure who your stalkers are but I think your propensity to talk bollocks and avoid providing any real detail is well known across the entire forum.

And of course you speak for the “entire” forum ?

I’d start putting the grey cells in gear before you type in future.

Hope that helps you to disseminate from my talking bollocks all the time .

UTB

 

[LJBlade]

And of course you speak for the “entire” forum ?

I’d start putting the grey cells in gear before you type in future.

Hope that helps you to disseminate from my talking bollocks all the time .

UTB

It was a figure of speech. Let's just say that you're well known for talking bollocks if that makes you feel better.

You could provide that 'evidence' you were talking about however, to prove me wrong...

 

[bertieblade]

Would any other player in our squad had the ability to set up our first goal on Saturday and work their defenders as Mcburnie did

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

What are you (wittering) on about now. I'm not (trawling)/searching through all your previous posts. Make a valid argument for Mcburnie being value for money/stroke good player or don't bother commenting. I've tried my best to help you (understand).

Aye
Here’s me thinking “you’re back, Aye” comment was indicative of some form of familiarity with myself - guess I shouldn’t hold such an high opinion of myself , or perhaps, more pertinently you

Must try harder - I’m guessing you’ve heard that ‘afore ?
Aye?

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

And of course you speak for the “entire” forum ?

I’d start putting the grey cells in gear before you type in future.

Hope that helps you to disseminate from my talking bollocks all the time .

UTB

What exactly is to be “disseminated” ?

 

[DronnieBlade]

What exactly is to be “disseminated” ?

Whatever you want. It’s your fantasy .

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[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Whatever you want. It’s your fantasy .

UTB

Aye
At present I’m fantasising about your capacity to become literate

 

[DronnieBlade]

Aye
At present I’m fantasising about your capacity to become literate

To disseminate from the poster using his own grey cells and my very own talking bollocks !

Irony not your strong suit ?

Hope that helps.

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[nopigfansintown]

This is the first time since he's been at the club - and Mousett stopped caring - that Mcburnie has had a striker that wants to run the other side of him. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on.

RE contract renewal: Championship goals cost a lot of money these days and he's done enough to prove to me he's worth a deal at that level considering the huge cost of replacements. Still a good age at 27 and it seems the penny has dropped re attitude. Hopfully we get three others that we own if we go down.

Champ level

17-9
44-24
28-0
41-15.

 

[s20Blade]

This is the first time since he's been at the club - and Mousett stopped caring - that Mcburnie has had a striker that wants to run the other side of him. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on.

RE contract renewal: Championship goals cost a lot of money these days and he's done enough to prove to me he's worth a deal at that level considering the huge cost of replacements. Still a good age at 27 and it seems the penny has dropped re attitude. Hopfully we get three others that we own if we go down.

Champ level

17-9
44-24
28-0
41-15.

Age wise I don't think it will matter if he losses a Yard of pace with how he plays, he could be effective in the big leagues well his 30's IMO.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Age wise I don't think it will matter if he losses a Yard of pace with how he plays, he could be effective in the big leagues well his 30's IMO.

Agree. Pace is not an issue in his decline. If you don't have it, you can't lose it.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I don’t agree that he was consistently very good in the first PL season as you and others do. Far from it. Evidence is there.

I don’t agree that he tore us a new one in performances for Swansea and Barnsley as you and others do. Far from it. Evidence is there.

I don’t therefore agree that Wilder spent this money wisely or that “overall” his contribution has amounted to much at all. In the first 3 seasons.

I CAN agree that his performance levels upticked significantly in the first half of last season. And then dropped back again !

So my 80% is based on statistical evidence and what these bad boys tell me based on watching every single minute of every single game he has played. These bad boys !

There is no agenda. That’s far too convenient for anyone not looking at the situation objectively to dismiss without foundation. An easy out !

I would however suggest that his Jack the lad social media activity has allowed a certain number of 20 somethings to take to him far more as a person than perhaps has been merited based on his performances on the pitch. Maybe.

I am thus somewhat perplexed as to why such a good footballer, as many of you are confident in stating, entering the last year of his contract (both last year and this) does NOT attract transfer speculation. Any transfer speculation in fact. Maybe there is stuff I / we don’t know about here, but it is puzzling nonetheless !

I can also agree he has looked like a bloody effective footballer so far this season.

Keep it up lad .

UTB

Out of the £20m spent on him, what value do you think McBurnie has returned on?
£5m? £10m? £15m?

 

[DronnieBlade]

Out of the £20m spent on him, what value do you think McBurnie has returned on?
£5m? £10m? £15m?

I dunno exactly. More than Brewster I guess and less than a few others.

I do find it hilarious that some folks state that his 6 PL goals equated to X points thus meaning X million !

It categorically doesn’t !

I’m happy his form is good as of right now and hope that he can fulfil any balance of the £20m you suggest currently outstanding this season .

UTB

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I dunno exactly. More than Brewster I guess and less than a few others.

I do find it hilarious that some folks state that his 6 PL goals equated to X points thus meaning X million !

It categorically doesn’t !

I’m happy his form is good as of right now and hope that he can fulfil any balance of the £20m you suggest currently outstanding this season .

UTB

I just think it's difficult to call him a "poor signing" when he's just significantly contributed to our promotion to the PL.

If we'd signed him last summer for £12-15m and he'd done that, I'd be delighted with it.
I don't disagree that it doesn't entirely make up for two seasons of nothing and one mediocre one at PL level when he joined but it goes a long way.

If he keeps up this level of performance for a full season then he's a proper PL player.
How much are they worth?

Brewster has been a terrible signing but that's not all his fault. If he'd had a clean bill of health I'd wager he'd have contributed an awful lot by now. The one run of games he had for us at Championship level his improvement rate was rapid.

 

[Cheesebored]

Aye
Here’s me thinking “you’re back, Aye” comment was indicative of some form of familiarity with myself - guess I shouldn’t hold such an high opinion of myself , or perhaps, more pertinently you

Must try harder - I’m guessing you’ve heard that ‘afore ?
Aye?

Aye, you're correct. You're guessing again.

 

[DronnieBlade]

I just think it's difficult to call him a "poor signing" when he's just significantly contributed to our promotion to the PL.

If we'd signed him last summer for £12-15m and he'd done that, I'd be delighted with it.
I don't disagree that it doesn't entirely make up for two seasons of nothing and one mediocre one at PL level when he joined but it goes a long way.

If he keeps up this level of performance for a full season then he's a proper PL player.
How much are they worth?

Brewster has been a terrible signing but that's not all his fault. If he'd had a clean bill of health I'd wager he'd have contributed an awful lot by now. The one run of games he had for us at Championship level his improvement rate was rapid

You could be right.

But do not dismiss recency bias in your suggesting this.

And for the sake of balance, my very own recency bias when his form was, quote (and directly from the horses mouth rather than anyone else’s), wank !!

Based on the FACT much rests on his shoulders this season, as we are dreadfully lacking depth and competition offensively, let’s hope this last 120 mins was not just another purple patch !

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[CaptainMorgans]

You could be right.

But do not dismiss recency bias in your suggesting this.

And for the sake of balance, my very own recency bias when his form was, quote (and directly from the horses mouth rather than anyone else’s), wank !!

Based on the FACT much rests on his shoulders this season, as we are dreadfully lacking depth and competition offensively, let’s hope this last 120 mins was not just another purple patch !

UTB

I fully agreed with McBurnie's assessment of his second and third seasons with us.
His fourth was very good though (8.5/10 first half, 6.5/10 second half).

No recency bias here, but his overall body of work hasn't been poor and although £20m still looks a little high for his return, as I say, it's not miles off.

 

[DronnieBlade]

I fully agreed with McBurnie's assessment of his second and third seasons with us.
His fourth was very good though (8.5/10 first half, 6.5/10 second half).

No recency bias here, but his overall body of work hasn't been poor and although £20m still looks a little high for his return, as I say, it's not miles off.

I’ll not disagree much with the 8.5 first half last season (much anyway), but 6.5 2nd half ??

Check pomp’s and DBs ratings for a less than scientific (but wholly accurate overall nonetheless) observation as to why 6.5 is miles off.

As I’ve said, over 4 seasons, 80% bobbar.

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[BrisBlade]

I have a theory that McBurnie plays best when he's got the right strike partner. Good with Moussett in the first half of the first PL season, Ndiaye last season when he wasn't injured. He didn't work well with Billy or Didzy. I'm hoping Archer and him strike up a good relationship and there are positive early signs there.

I also think he works his socks off but isn't too effective as a loan striker. May be because when we've done this a few years ago support was often too long coming to be able to hold the ball up for them to arrive. This may change with Hamer and McAtee if we did move to this approach at times.