Kilgallon latest - hold onto your hats

[Santos]

Offer accepted within the region of £1.5 - 2 million, Kilgallon talking to club as we speak.

Source: Kevin Blackwell on Talksport.

PS - He got on with Brian Laws 'very well'

 

[LouTheBlade]

I was waiting for this news. I didn't realise Laws had stolen the lead on the Burnley job. Thought O'Driscoll was a certainty last night. I don't think Killa would sign for Burnley. He would be better off waiting until the summer and going to Newcastle.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Sky are intimating that O'Driscoll was 1st choice but they couldn't agree the compensation, seems strange as Radio Sheff reckon he has a clause in his contract but there you go.

Re Killa, best for all parties I think, particularly if it frees up funds for McSheffrey and maybe the return of Kyle (subject to the doom and gloom on the transfer funds thread!).

 

[Houso]

Re Killa, best for all parties I think, particularly if it frees up funds for McSheffrey and maybe the return of Kyle (subject to the doom and gloom on the transfer funds thread!).

I agree with that. Time for him to go.

He'll be on big enough wages that will be freed up and hopefully the fee is pumped straight back into the team for a new defender and left winger.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Sounds like Siep played well last night and likes to pass the ball which is a bonus. Lack of pace with him and Morgs is a worry but if we could bring back Kyle, it would add a bit of much needed pace post Killa.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

If the deal is £1.5-2 Million then it's a no brainer especially as the new lad seems to have settled in well.

Get Kyle back, who knows if we go up we could probably buy Walker for the money we got for Killa.

 

[JohnDenver]

Re Killa, best for all parties I think, particularly if it frees up funds for McSheffrey and maybe the return of Kyle

Agree to an extent, but if we spend the proceeds of our sales on the wages of Premiership loanees then we're on a downward spiral.

We could buy five more lower league "prospects" and not get another as good as Jamie Ward. But at least there's the chance of a return on investment in the medium term. Loaning McSheffrey and Naughton would be an expensive short term option.

 

[Houso]

Agree to an extent, but if we spend the proceeds of our sales on the wages of Premiership loanees then we're on a downward spiral.

We could buy five more lower league "prospects" and not get another as good as Jamie Ward. But at least there's the chance of a return on investment in the medium term. Loaning McSheffrey and Naughton would be an expensive short term option.

To be honest, I imagine McSheffrey is available for a relatively small figure such as a million, so it wouldn't necessarily be an expensive short term option.

It would be lovely to find a couple more 'Wards' though. Pity LeFondre can't move to another club this season.

 

[Revolution]

To be honest, I imagine McSheffrey is available for a relatively small figure such as a million, so it wouldn't necessarily be an expensive short term option.

You seriously think United will spend a million pounds on a player this transfer window?

 

[Autumn]

To be honest, I imagine McSheffrey is available for a relatively small figure such as a million, so it wouldn't necessarily be an expensive short term option.

You seriously think United will spend a million pounds on a player this transfer window?

Yes, if terms are agreed

 

[lenners]

United won't spend anything on transfer fees for some time.
What is it about the latest accounts that some folk don't understand?
It's going to be short-termism for a while with the hope that by some fluke we could get up this season.
Next season, minus Killa, both Kyles and probably Naysmith, is going to be interesting.

 

[Oreyt]

United won't spend anything on transfer fees for some time.
What is it about the latest accounts that some folk don't understand?
It's going to be short-termism for a while with the hope that by some fluke we could get up this season.
Next season, minus Killa, both Kyles and probably Naysmith, is going to be interesting.

............

 

[LouTheBlade]

United won't spend anything on transfer fees for some time.
What is it about the latest accounts that some folk don't understand?
It's going to be short-termism for a while with the hope that by some fluke we could get up this season.
Next season, minus Killa, both Kyles and probably Naysmith, is going to be interesting.

I would normally be more positive but I have to agree with Lenners on this. Its quite apparent that we won't be spending any serious money on players for the forseeable future. If Killa goes for £2M then most of that will go back into the club - probably in the direction of McCabe and paying back his investments. We would be lucky to see 500K of that money spent on players (at the very most).

Having said that if McCabe and his other enterprises have been investing in the club over the last few years then he's perfectly entitled to take his money back. I hold nothing against him in that regard. Im just astonished we can never find a big investor when piss pot clubs like Portsmouth and Fulham are wanted by everyone - even if they are in the PL they are still in debt. Ive never understood why anyone wants to invest in debt ridden clubs.

 

[Houso]

To be honest, I imagine McSheffrey is available for a relatively small figure such as a million, so it wouldn't necessarily be an expensive short term option.

You seriously think United will spend a million pounds on a player this transfer window?

To be perfectly honest, I rule nothing out.

The accounts are far from easy to understand as to whether they're serious or not. On one hand you have the doommongers amongst Blades and scaremongers amongst Pigs claiming we're in financial peril and the PLC and footballing debts are synonymous. On the other, there are personnel at SUFC and various financially minded Blades claiming it's nothing to worry about and despite the need to cover the shortfall, we're in adequate financial health.

I think there is a need for McCabe et al to reassure SUFC supporters and he recognises this... if he doesn't, then season tickets will drop through the floor should the likely stay in the Championship occur. A million pound signing of an exciting player will cover the disappointment from the Killa sale and will hopefully ignite a bit of optimism amongst us lot.

I'm obviously looking at this hopefully, but y'never know and we've made bigger signings when in deeper financial straits, so I'm not ruling it out now.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Aren't we being a little negative here?

If we get McSheffrey and both Kyles back we will have spent next to nothing while getting a decent squad together.

IF we go up that's a bonus and quite an achievement if we don't we've spent nothing which will help our accounts.

We know we are having a difficult time financially but none of teams in our division are in a position to throw millions around. Those that are face serious consequences if they fail i.e. Forest.

Sure I'd love us to have £10 Million to spend in January but the current climate just doesn't make that possible. As above no one in this league has that kind of money to through about, the only ones spending anything will be the relegated teams.

 

[Autumn]

You can't rule anything out, and if a player is 1m, it doesn't mean we will pay that upfront. A lot of deals are paid over a set period of time. It depends on the club and the relationships you have within the footballing world.

 

[Santos]

Signing Gary McSheffrey for 1 million pounds will be a truely awful transfer on so many levels. If it was a choice of either signing nobody or him for that amount of money i'd rather we keep our powder dry for the summer.

 

[lenners]

Jeez, spending £1m on a player simply is not going to happen.
We are solvent and a lot of the money is owed to McCabe essentially by McCabe himself.
But the debt is there and he's already earmarked incoming money to pay off his own debts in the accounts.
A couple of loans there might be and Kyle N makes sense if and when Killa goes.
But we're looking at short term expediency for the timebeing.

 

[Sensiblade]

Jeez, spending £1m on a player simply is not going to happen.
We are solvent and a lot of the money is owed to McCabe essentially by McCabe himself.
But the debt is there and he's already earmarked incoming money to pay off his own debts in the accounts.
A couple of loans there might be and Kyle N makes sense if and when Killa goes.
But we're looking at short term expediency for the timebeing.

are you Yoda in disguise?

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Aren't we being a little negative here?

If we get McSheffrey and both Kyles back we will have spent next to nothing while getting a decent squad together.

IF we go up that's a bonus and quite an achievement if we don't we've spent nothing which will help our accounts.

We know we are having a difficult time financially but none of teams in our division are in a position to throw millions around. Those that are face serious consequences if they fail i.e. Forest.

Sure I'd love us to have £10 Million to spend in January but the current climate just doesn't make that possible. As above no one in this league has that kind of money to through about, the only ones spending anything will be the relegated teams.

I think that's pretty much spot on, Killa leaves and we bring those 2 in for little or no outlay (bearing in mind an improved conract for Killa was supposed to be on the table). Fans would be happy (I suspect), with those 2, McCabe would be singing about paying for McSheffrey, Blackie gets 2 more players in and we soldier on.

 

[LouTheBlade]

I think that's pretty much spot on, Killa leaves and we bring those 2 in for little or no outlay (bearing in mind an improved conract for Killa was supposed to be on the table). Fans would be happy (I suspect), with those 2, McCabe would be singing about paying for McSheffrey, Blackie gets 2 more players in and we soldier on.

I agree with the two of you as well and that's exactly what we'll do if those two come in. I can understand that some people wont rule out us spending £1M and I would gladly eat humble pie if we do but it wont happen - are you forgetting which club we support?!

McSheffrey is a decent player - good for the championship in fact, but I dont rate him at £1M and would see that as a slight over-payment. I would rate the guy at around £600K in the current market as he hasnt set the world alight since leaving Coventry (where he probably was worth seven figures).

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Jim

The squad would actually seem to be quite good comparatively to our rivals both in terms of quality and depth.

Keepers: Bunn Bennett (Paddy)

Right Back: Naughton, Walker, Del

Centre Half: Morgs, Seip, Walker (maybe one more required)

Left Back: Naysmith (???), Taylor, Stewart, Naughton

Right Mid: Walker, Wardy, Little

Center Mid: France, Monty, Willo, Harper,

Left Mid: McSheffrey, Quinny, Reid, Cresswell

Fowards: Evans, Hendo, Camara, Cresswell, Ward,

Apart from centre half which would look weak if we get an injury I think that side looks ok. But if we assume that we either have Killa or another centre half brought in as his replacement (same goes for Naysmith) I think we are pretty well covered despite spending fuck all.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Not sure what his contract situation is but given his recent injury record, I'd be amazed if we paid more than £500K up front with add-ons and I can't see Brum getting more than that for him. Could still be a 'loan with a view to' though.

 

[LouTheBlade]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150090/Matt-Kilgallon-to-join-Newcastle-after-Sheffield-United-accept-2m-offer

This looks fairly conclusive - Newcastle as originally expected rather than Burnley though

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Jim

The squad would actually seem to be quite good comparatively to our rivals both in terms of quality and depth.

Keepers: Bunn Bennett (Paddy)

Right Back: Naughton, Walker, Del

Centre Half: Morgs, Seip, Walker (maybe one more required)

Left Back: Naysmith (???), Taylor, Stewart, Naughton

Right Mid: Walker, Wardy, Little

Center Mid: France, Monty, Willo, Harper,

Left Mid: McSheffrey, Quinny, Reid, Cresswell

Fowards: Evans, Hendo, Camara, Cresswell, Ward,

Apart from centre half which would look weak if we get an injury I think that side looks ok. But if we assume that we either have Killa or another centre half brought in as his replacement (same goes for Naysmith) I think we are pretty well covered despite spending fuck all.

Yep, Blackie sounded last night as though he wanted 2 more and given an injury free run, or at least an average injury record, we'd cope.

He'd still be loathed to change his beloved midfield but with another option wide left and everyone fit, the 1st team squad would look OK with decent options on the bench.

 

[Houso]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/150090/Matt-Kilgallon-to-join-Newcastle-after-Sheffield-United-accept-2m-offer

This looks fairly conclusive - Newcastle as originally expected rather than Burnley though

That's from last week isn't it?

 

[LouTheBlade]

That's from last week isn't it?

Apologies you're quite right it does seem to be. I read the date at the very top but it seems to be from the 6th. Apologies everyone - I'm only on my second cup of coffee

 

[Mad Mick]

If it is £2.5 million, that's a great price.

 

[Santos]

Yep, Blackie sounded last night as though he wanted 2 more and given an injury free run, or at least an average injury record, we'd cope.

He'd still be loathed to change his beloved midfield but with another option wide left and everyone fit, the 1st team squad would look OK with decent options on the bench.

Fleets what do you think his beloved midfield is?

 

[LouTheBlade]

The squad would actually seem to be quite good comparatively to our rivals both in terms of quality and depth.

Ive started to think that myself. Lets just say Killa goes and we get our two targets - I would go with this team;

GK - Bunn (Paddy when he returns)
RB - Naughton
CB - Walker
CB - Morgan
LB - Naysmith
RW - Ward
CM - Williamson
CM - Harper
LW - McSheffrey
ST - Henderson
ST - Camara

With the obvious candidates on the bench that team (albeit staying free from injury) would get a playoff place. Walker could play centre back quite well for me and has done before when on loan at Northampton. If not just play Seip and no one misses Killa.

Picks itself IMO.