Kilgallon latest - hold onto your hats

[lenners]

Unless this is just a bit of short-term haggling to push up his wages or signing-on fee, I suggest there's a lot wrong with it.

If he's planning to hold out until the eleventh hour then it will put this club in a difficult position to sign a replacement. This is the club that has paid has wages for the past few years and looked after him pretty well. We are the fans that have supported him. We deserve better. He's just taking the piss - which sadly is what a lot of footballers do these days.

I hope he falls flat on his face after he leaves the Blades.

Bobbins. United want the money as much as anything Killa wants to do.
He'd be happy to stay in the knowledge that he's got a deal done for the summer but that wouldn't bring in the dosh.
We need £4.5m before we start next season. The money has to come from somewhere.

 

[broomhillblade]

you dont think the classic 'his replacement is already at the club' line wont be trotted out if he does go, come mid february...?? (siep)

Siep may well be Killa's replacement, but if he goes this month we still need another centre back as cover (preferably two).

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

RS report Killa has told Burnley to sod off.

How refreshing. I hope Kila gets the backing he deserves on Sat.

 

[alcoblade]

RS report Killa has told Burnley to sod off.

How refreshing. I hope Kila gets the backing he deserves on Sat.

What's refreshing? He's turned them down because he thinks he'll do better elsewhere, and not for our benefit.

I'm under no illusion - players have zero loyalty - but there's nothing "refreshing" in this - unless I'm missing something.


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[lenners]

What's refreshing? He's turned them down because he thinks he'll do better elsewhere, and not for our benefit.

I'm under no illusion - players have zero loyalty - but there's nothing "refreshing" in this - unless I'm missing something.


UTB

He's in the prime of his career and wants a contract that will set him up for life with a club in the Premiership.
We can't offer him that and we'd also like to see some money raised for him now.
There isn't the confidence in the team and Blackwell to risk keeping players like Killa when the only time to get money for him is now.

 

[alcoblade]

He's in the prime of his career and wants a contract that will set him up for life with a club in the Premiership.
We can't offer him that and we'd also like to see some money raised for him now.
There isn't the confidence in the team and Blackwell to risk keeping players like Killa when the only time to get money for him is now.

I agree with everything you say Len. It' just another case of millionaire footballers screwing even more money out of football (and in the end the fans). Though there might not be any case to "blame" them, I find it a million miles from "refreshing".

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[shorehamview]

Kilgallon may well have told Burnley to sod off, but as lenners says

He's in the prime of his career and wants a contract that will set him up for life with a club in the Premiership.
We can't offer him that and we'd also like to see some money raised for him now.

What would be a bugger is if we have agreed a fee with a club but Killa, or any other player in the same situation, has a word with his agent and the agent says something like "Ask Club X FC for a million quid a week and for them to change the strip to pink, and the stadium's name to 'CherylyColesGotGreatTits Park'. They'll say no, so you can sign for Barcode United in the summer for a massive signing on fee and a bigger wage. Fuck Sheffield United, what have they ever done for you?"

Not that agents are fucking football just for their cut of the money. Oh dear me, no.

 

[puppet]

I agree with everything you say Len. It' just another case of millionaire footballers screwing even more money out of football (and in the end the fans). Though there might not be any case to "blame" them, I find it a million miles from "refreshing".

UTB

its unfortunate but its how football has gone the last 10 years or so....

 

[sitwell]

Ive heard today that O'Driscoll staying at Donny has cleared the decks for Sharp to move to Barnsley with Campbell-Rice likely to be the carrot plus dosh.

 

[Santos]

Ive heard today that O'Driscoll staying at Donny has cleared the decks for Sharp to move to Barnsley with Campbell-Rice likely to be the carrot plus dosh.

Eh? I'm probably being thick but that doesn't make much sense. Does O'Driscoll not rate him?

 

[Blade58]

Eh? I'm probably being thick but that doesn't make much sense. Does O'Driscoll not rate him?

Got to admit, that one's thrown me as well!

 

[sitwell]

Because if O'Driscoll had gone to Burnley ,Sharp would have followed ,whereas Donny can't afford his wages.

 

[Foxy]

Because if O'Driscoll had gone to Burnley ,Sharp would have followed ,whereas Donny can't afford his wages.

Where as his ex-manager Mr Laws, who constantly talks him up, wouldn't poossibly be interested

 

[sitwell]

You would think so. Either way there will surely now be movement.

 

[alcoblade]

You would think so. Either way there will surely now be movement.

Having just been for a curry, I can assure you there's lots of movement.



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[Cheshire Cat]

I can see both sides. From United's point of view he either needs to sign a new contract or as you say 'fuck off', I doubt it will be 1.75 million in full but the fact is, any deal which may come to 1.75 million for a player of Kilgallon's abilities (lets no get confused, he's no Beckenbauer, or Jagielka) with a few months left to run is a fantastic deal for SUFC and in my opinion if all monies is invested into the team could make us stronger as a squad.

On Killa's side, I don't blame him for turning down Burnley who I think will fall like a brick now Coyle has left. From his point of view, he is contracted with SUFC till the summer and unless a club takes his fancy he is well within his rights to wait till the summer to see what's available, who knows he may re-sign for us.

If Killa goes now he possibly misses out on the money he'd get signing on as a free agent at the end of the year. It's not only our valuation of Killa that has to be met - it's his and his agent's too.

If Burnley have thrown him a contract with Premier wages this year and Championship next year (assuming they go down) - he'd be cutting his nose off to spite his face.

He might as well carry on doing what he is doing now, see what the market has to offer at the end of the season. In the slim chance that we go up, he gets Premier League wages and a better offer anyway. If we don't, someone will offer them to him plus a fat signing on fee.

 

[Cassius Kray]

Kilgallon may well have told Burnley to sod off, but as lenners says

What would be a bugger is if we have agreed a fee with a club but Killa, or any other player in the same situation, has a word with his agent and the agent says something like "Ask Club X FC for a million quid a week and for them to change the strip to pink, and the stadium's name to 'CherylyColesGotGreatTits Park'. They'll say no, so you can sign for Barcode United in the summer for a massive signing on fee and a bigger wage. Fuck Sheffield United, what have they ever done for you?"

Not that agents are fucking football just for their cut of the money. Oh dear me, no.

Are you seriously suggesting that Killa should risk ruining his career by signing for Burnley because he 'owes' it to United to get a transfer fee out of him?

I think it's pretty ridiculous to suggest that Killa is wrong for wanting to sign for a bigger club for more money. He's played well for United for a few seasons and we've paid him well for it. That's all he owes to us, and he'd have been a fool to sign for Burnley unless they offered him a massive deal.

Greedy agents? It's just common sense.

 

[SwissBlade]

United 'owe' it to United to get the best possible transfer fee for players. Perhaps we should of taken the £4 million in the summer for him and started a fresh.

I had a major gripe with Killa earlier this season when he "seemed" to have a major dip in form and confidence. At that point I said get rid, but credit to him. He's picked his game up and pulled his head out of his arse.

Were not scrabbling around accepting offers for him in the hope we can recoup a nominal fee. Too late i'm afraid.

I'm happy now that Killa keeps turning down offers, I just hope that if a club does offer him something decent that its very soon. What happened to the one week that we were giving him to stay or go? Haven't the club now gone back on this if we're still accepting offers two weeks later?

One good thing might come of this. Killa and his agent may wake up and realise that even Premier League clubs won't be offering big wages. He's turned down Newcastle and Everton have been touted as the biggest club to be interested and they're skint. So perhaps he'll wake up a bit!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I agree with everything you say Len. It' just another case of millionaire footballers screwing even more money out of football (and in the end the fans). Though there might not be any case to "blame" them, I find it a million miles from "refreshing".

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But he isn't screwing anyone out of anything.

His agreement with our club runs to the end of this season and the club is seemingly trying to negotiate a transfer fee rather than losing him for nothing.

The minute he puts in a transfer request, therefore breaking his agreement, I'd agree but he isn't doing anything wrong at the minute.
Just the same as he wouldn't be doing anything wrong by the club or the fans if he left in the summer for nothing.

 

[Melbourne Blade]

Also people seem to forget that should Killa pick up a serious injury between now and the end of the season, the chance of anybody signing him in the summer diminishes.

Being out of contract with us also means he could be without a club until his injury clears..... No wages and no treatment room?!

 

[Santos]

United 'owe' it to United to get the best possible transfer fee for players. Perhaps we should of taken the £4 million in the summer for him and started a fresh.

I had a major gripe with Killa earlier this season when he "seemed" to have a major dip in form and confidence. At that point I said get rid, but credit to him. He's picked his game up and pulled his head out of his arse.

Were not scrabbling around accepting offers for him in the hope we can recoup a nominal fee. Too late i'm afraid.

I'm happy now that Killa keeps turning down offers, I just hope that if a club does offer him something decent that its very soon. What happened to the one week that we were giving him to stay or go? Haven't the club now gone back on this if we're still accepting offers two weeks later?

One good thing might come of this. Killa and his agent may wake up and realise that even Premier League clubs won't be offering big wages. He's turned down Newcastle and Everton have been touted as the biggest club to be interested and they're skint. So perhaps he'll wake up a bit!

Seems an age ago now, did we ever get a 4 million offer and from who?

 

[Grecian2000]

What happened to the one week that we were giving him to stay or go? Haven't the club now gone back on this if we're still accepting offers two weeks later?

Mmmmm, smell that Espresso.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

What I find refreshing is after his agent was interviewed on RS he stated that Killa was going to see out his contract and Kills has stuck to his word [so far].

 

[tomtheblade]

If we've got him for the rest of the season, and he's motivated (and he should be, since he would now be playing to sign for a better club than the likes of Newcastle/Burnley) then we should really go for promotion.

Keep him, bring Naughton back and we've got the defence we had last year but with a better midfield in the form of Harper and Williamson. Even better if we can get McSheffrey and Halford in as well. Mix those up with Ward and Hendo and we might just have a decent team.

 

[shorehamview]

Are you seriously suggesting that Killa should risk ruining his career by signing for Burnley because he 'owes' it to United to get a transfer fee out of him?

No. I'm suggesting that in the modern age agents have far more influence over their clients than happened in the past, when agents seemed to just get the best deal for their client at the club the client wanted to play for. Now the agent seems to engineer the best money making deal, rather than what might be best for the player as a player rather than a cash making asset.

In the past clubs agreed a deal and the player had to sort terms out, but if the player didn't like the terms it was his tough shit, that was what he was getting. Nowadays the player can demand the moon on a stick, and if he doesn't get it he won't move. He can also demand things the club that wants him won't give so that he doesn't move. Therefore if Club X can't meet his terms then the club he plays for at the moment can't cash in on a prime asset, and he can go to whoever he wants in the summer rather than whoever offers United the best deal now.

 

[alcoblade]

What I find refreshing is after his agent was interviewed on RS he stated that Killa was going to see out his contract and Kills has stuck to his word [so far].

But in reality that mans that Killgallon has calculated that he'll get a better deal by walking on a free at the end of he season. Should an offer come in that make's that not the case, he'll be off like a shot.

He has no Loyalty to SUFC, just like any other player. Sad but true.

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[Flatulent_Bob]

But in reality that mans that Killgallon has calculated that he'll get a better deal by walking on a free at the end of he season. Should an offer come in that make's that not the case, he'll be off like a shot.

He has no Loyalty to SUFC, just like any other player. Sad but true.

UTB

But if he doesn't break his contract how is he disloyal?

 

[Cassius Kray]

I think that the vast majority of people in any industry work (hard) for their company while they're there, but would happily up sticks if a bigger company offered them a better position with more money. It's perfectly reasonable for footballers to do the same.

No. I'm suggesting that in the modern age agents have far more influence over their clients than happened in the past, when agents seemed to just get the best deal for their client at the club the client wanted to play for. Now the agent seems to engineer the best money making deal, rather than what might be best for the player as a player rather than a cash making asset.

So a nobody club like Burnley who have just lost their manager and are in serious danger of going into freefall would be a better footballing decision than waiting 6 months to go to a resurgent Newcastle and play in front of 50,000 fans every week?

This is nothing to do with agents, it's simple common sense.

In the past clubs agreed a deal and the player had to sort terms out, but if the player didn't like the terms it was his tough shit, that was what he was getting. Nowadays the player can demand the moon on a stick, and if he doesn't get it he won't move. He can also demand things the club that wants him won't give so that he doesn't move. Therefore if Club X can't meet his terms then the club he plays for at the moment can't cash in on a prime asset, and he can go to whoever he wants in the summer rather than whoever offers United the best deal now.

Oh come off it, players have been engineering moves for financial reasons since before professional football was even introduced, and players have never been happy to move to a club that can't meet their expectations.

It is not Killa's duty to toddle off to any club Untied deem to be suitable, and money aside it makes no logic from a footballing sense to do so, which is precisely why it never happened in the past contrary to your rose-tinted memories. If a player heard that Man U were interested, he wouldn't go and sign up with York City just because they'd made the first bid.

But in reality that mans that Killgallon has calculated that he'll get a better deal by walking on a free at the end of he season. Should an offer come in that make's that not the case, he'll be off like a shot.

He'll be off nowhere before the end of the season unless United decide the money is acceptable, in which case he's got every right to go.

 

[SwissBlade]

Seems an age ago now, did we ever get a 4 million offer and from who?

Wasn't it from Newcastle?

 

[broomhillblade]

I see from the O/S that he has declared himself fit and will be available for tomorrow's game.

How jolly sporting of him. ;-)