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Any one feel we might be in a better position if we had not signed beattie?We seem to play ti his strengths and not as a team, just a though. Would anyone be truly bothered if he was to be sold? i for one wouldn't.
 



I'd rather we keep him personally.

We finally get hold of a proven striker who fires himself to the top of the scoring charts despite us playing crap and everyone wants to jump on his back/get rid!

Where would we be without his goals/contribution?
 
We need to keep Beattie, like Foxy said its not jus goals he supplies, he's also the leading player for assists.
We've been after a striker who can score 20/30 goals a season and want to get rid of him, would we be be the same if we got this midfielder who kept providing assists?
 
Foxy said:
I'd rather we keep him personally.

We finally get hold of a proven striker who fires himself to the top of the scoring charts despite us playing crap and everyone wants to jump on his back/get rid!

Where would we be without his goals/contribution?
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i am not getting on his back,its a fact his performances are slipping,just beacuase he is top scorer doesn't mean he should be dropped.As for needing a 20/30 goal a season striker we didn't have one the season we wen't up we palyed for the team and not one player.
 
Foxy said:
I'd rather we keep him personally.

We finally get hold of a proven striker who fires himself to the top of the scoring charts despite us playing crap and everyone wants to jump on his back/get rid!

Where would we be without his goals/contribution?
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Not saying this is the case, but maybe we aren't playing well because we are playing to Beattie's strength.
 
Any one feel we might be in a better position if we had not signed beattie?We seem to play ti his strengths and not as a team, just a though. Would anyone be truly bothered if he was to be sold? i for one wouldn't.
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I can understand that viewpoint, Beattie is the first name on the team sheet up front, we have played him on his own or alongside just about every other striker at the club. Now i'm not getting on his back at all but I genuinely think a fully fit Rob Hulse is the better player and he could well be on half the wages of BT. Top of the scoring charts etc is a consideration but a number of his goals have come from the spot and when did he last score in open play.
Who is to say a combination of Stead/Sharpe/Webber/Shelton pick any two would not have produced as many goals. yea it's good to have a player topping the scoring charts but football is essentially a team game much better to have the goals coming from all areas of play eg, Arsenal - sold Henry maybe the best in the world and look how good they are now. BTW I know it was only v Morecombe but the only time he doesn't play we hit six playing to feet rather than the hoofball that creeps in when BT is a target.
 
No comparison just an example of a team who certainly don't seem to be missing a top striker. I think BT would be better with a regular strike partner but Robbo can't make his mind up who that should be, I expect him to now try a BT/Hulse pairing. The goals ratio from midfield is poor to say the least but is only to be expected when they get bypassed by the long ball from defence which also does BT no favours if he is the lone striker. Let's hope the addition of Speed plus one or two more in midfield will improve things, no matter whether there is a problem scoring or conceding it always brings us back to us having a shit midfield.
 
what metalblade and robbie are saying is my point,yes beattie HAS scored goals ( not for a while and i believe his last 3 were all from the spot) ,but would something else not be worth a shot a sharp/stead or sharp/hulse partner ship beattie is off form FACT top scorer and record signing or not he needs to be dropped and i think we will p;ay alot better.
 
BT didnt do much again, and robson said about him missing saturday?

Getting sold in jan?

I wouldnt be bothered if we got £6million for him. As metal says, a fully fit hulse is a better player. He brings people into the game and drags defenders with him. BT has stopped doing this.
 
id take £6 million now. £1million payoff for robson and the rest on midfield
 



His value as it stands I don't think will even be hitting £4 million.
 
Beattie didn't do much?

Just score a goal for us, which the rest of the team failed to do.

Can't believe people are moaning that we couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo today and then in the next sentance saying Beattie isn't doing the team any good. When he went off we didn't look like scoring for the rest of the match.

All the constant moaning about one of the best players we've had in years is just pissing me off now. I wouldn't blame Beattie if he left in the transfer window, he deserves to be at a club who's fans appreciate his contribution.
 
Mousey said:
Beattie didn't do much?

Just score a goal for us, which the rest of the team failed to do.

Can't believe people are moaning that we couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo today and then in the next sentance saying Beattie isn't doing the team any good. When he went off we didn't look like scoring for the rest of the match.

All the constant moaning about one of the best players we've had in years is just pissing me off now. I wouldn't blame Beattie if he left in the transfer window, he deserves to be at a club who's fans appreciate his contribution.
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I have to disagree Mousey. We had 2 AMAZING chances to score when Beattie was off the pitch. Sadly the players it dropped to wasted these chances.

I have confidence that had these chances dropped to Beattie he would have put them away. But Beattie didn't do much today apart from his goal. The "penalty" was a poor one for his standards.
 
yeah, we had loads of chances when BT went off.
 
Robbie said:
I have to disagree Mousey. We had 2 AMAZING chances to score when Beattie was off the pitch. Sadly the players it dropped to wasted these chances.

I have confidence that had these chances dropped to Beattie he would have put them away. But Beattie didn't do much today apart from his goal. The "penalty" was a poor one for his standards.
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Ok yeah we had the chances but they were clear chances which we failed to score. Stead did well with his shot towards the end to be fair. But we just don't look as convincing infront of goal when Beattie isn't playing. His penalty was a poor one but that is only the 1st that's been saved all season which isn't a bad record at all.

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yeah, we had loads of chances when BT went off.
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Exactly, and not one of them went in. Beattie had one chance from open play in the 1st half and it went in.
 
he also missed a penalty.

he should be scoring chances from open play, thats what his job is to do. and he hasnt scored for a long while from open play.

armstrong missed a sitter but hes not a striker.

im not slagging BT off for his goal scoring, just think we would be a better team with him putting the effort in.
 
He's scored 4 out of 5 penalties for us this season. Can't really complain about that. I can't really remember the last good chance from open play that Beattie has missed. He is also top of the assist list. Doesn't really seem like he hardly tries when you look at it like that though.
 
last good chance from open play he missed? cardiff about 1 min in?
 
I didn't go so can't really comment on that. Didn't hear much about it. Just can't believe people are complaining about a striker who is the top scorer in the league and top of the assist list in the team.
 
not faulting his goalscoring as i say, but hulse worked more today than BT in the past few. For the amount BT will be on, i think a little bit of pulling defenders out of the game and bringing people in would be more value.
 
And Hulse stopped us scoring a 2nd by getting in the way of Keef's shot. Maybe Beattie would have stayed away and been lazy and it would have gone in... He chases the ball down, receives the ball well and holds play up. I fail to see how much more he can do really.
 
on keefs success rate of shots, i highly doubt he would have scored that.
If BT hadnt been played Hulse would have scored the penalty.

hes stopped chasing the ball down as much, flicks the ball on more and hardly holds the ball up to play others in like hulse.
 
keenzy said:
on keefs success rate of shots, i highly doubt he would have scored that.
If BT hadnt been played Hulse would have scored the penalty.

hes stopped chasing the ball down as much, flicks the ball on more and hardly holds the ball up to play others in like hulse.
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Probably wouldn't have got the penalty because Hulse would have touched the ball in a different way to Beattie before the penalty though. And Hulse might not have scored the chance Beattie had. Hulse hardly ever chased the ball down last season though, but because he was the top scorer nobody cared that much.
 
we might have scored if hulse touched the ball in a different way giving sharp an extra yard to score.


from last season hulse did alot of chasing down
 



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