Jamals fuck up

[BushBlade]

We conceded after four minutes. We had almost an entire game to get back into it and failed to score. It's a team game and they're collectively responsible for results. We're not going to win every game.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

It's possible and did cross my mind, however, and may well have been an instant reaction to seeing the ball roll in the net, but surely not go through being carried off on a stretcher if there is bog all up with him?

Regardless of injury I think Moore will start Saturday and if he does OK (which he will do) could well be in for the rest of the season.

Ditto.

'Ditto', it was good enough for last night's response and it's good enough for now.
In fact I quite like putting that as a short, succinct way of communicating my agreement without the need for reams of unnecessary dialogue which, usually, is just saying the same point but in a slightly different way. Far too much time is wasted with posters droning on and on and on just so they can bolster, in my opinion, their own ego by 'holding people's attention' in some bizarre 'look at me' kind of crusade.
Keep things short and simple, that's what I say.

 

[The Crab]

Be a few half-happy to see that I’d wager!

It's a thankless position Danny as I know from painful experience (obviously nowhere near that level). For me, there is a big difference between the odd mistake, and a fundamentally poor keeper. Benfica are my "other" team, I rate Ederson but he is one of those keepers who always has a mistake in him, I think Benfica were probably right to sell him, I just wonder why they are playing a kid in goal when Julio Cesar is decent enough.

In summary, I think Blackman is a decent keeper, but has plenty of scope to develop.

 

[mosbolad]

Ditto.

'Ditto', it was good enough for last night's response and it's good enough for now.
In fact I quite like putting that as a short, succinct way of communicating my agreement without the need for reams of unnecessary dialogue which, usually, is just saying the same point but in a slightly different way. Far too much time is wasted with posters droning on and on and on just so they can bolster, in my opinion, their own ego by 'holding people's attention' in some bizarre 'look at me' kind of crusade.
Keep things short and simple, that's what I say.

Ditto....

In fact why were your hammered for putting 'ditto' and accused of being on a witch hunt?

Sod it.....'you've been on a witch hunt for ages Greasy! I'm going back to 'like' super pigs comment.........

 

[nowtfancy]

I'm going to risk a backlash here but anyone else think he might not be that injured?

One of the things keepers are taught from the beginning is that you will make mistakes, and it’s how you react that matters
I’d be amazed if he’s got the level that he has and feels the need to fake or exaggerate injury

 

[The Crab]

So you're a Blade but you're happy to see a Blades player make a mistake that leads to us conceding a goal?

He's played pro, so I respect his opinion even if I don't neccessarily agree with it (the height of my career was playing at Worldnet!). I like Blackman, but he needs a bit of tweaking, he'll be fine.

 

[The Crab]

That is quite an assertion. He then lay on the floor for several minutes, went off on a stretcher, and is now trying to hoodwink the medics? More likely he began to try to get up, and the pain kicked in with at movement.

I had quite a few injuries that didn't kick in straight away.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

One of the things keepers are taught from the beginning is that you will make mistakes, and it’s how you react that matters
I’d be amazed if he’s got the level that he has and feels the need to fake or exaggerate injury

Agreed. Extremely disappointing to see the suggestion to be honest.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

I had quite a few injuries that didn't kick in straight away.

What, once the alcohol had worn off you mean Crabby?

 

[The Crab]

What, once the alcohol had worn off you mean Crabby?

That never wore off, the power of staying drunk should not be underestimated. Any crosses, I just caught the one in the middle

 

[Northyorksblade]

It's a game of mistakes.

If we count misplaced or intercepted passes, less than perfect first touches, tackles that inadvertently give the ball back to the oppo, headers that go straight up or don't find the intended man, flicks that find no-one, corners or crosses that rip across the box into touch, shots that are saved or miss the target, players straying into offside positions, runs that lead to nothing, and god knows how many other different errors .............. then most outfield players could be said to make, what, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 "fuck ups" a game ?

A young keeper collides with a defender, after a near-exemplary run of performances in a defence that has conceded fewer goals than all bar one team in the division, and a load of posters say "he's shit and we knew it all along".

Sigh.

Well said, some of the comments about Jamal are unbelievable.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

I've read on all the newswires how Blackman's error cost Sheffield United at QPR last night. I heard the commentary on Radio Sheffield and they said it was Blackman's error. Nearly everything I read or heard said "he misjudged the bounce of the ball" and it was his blunder.

I've looked at the video and I think it's very unfortunate tbh. Blackman didn't misjudge the bounce of the ball at all. He came out and caught it cleanly. What followed next was bizarre - he makes only the slightest of contact with CCV and then hits the deck awkwardly and loses his grip on the ball. He tries to recover, but something hampers his movement and he can't get there.

It looks like a freak accident - and I'd guess judging by the way he fell and how he suddenly pulled up in apparent pain when he tried to recover, that he has broken his collar-bone. The other possibility is a fractured rib I suppose, but I think it's more likely it's the collar-bone. Although it was difficult to tell as he didn't appear to be clutching any particular part of his body as being injured. Having broken my collar-bone in the past, I know the first thing one normally does it clutch the arm to stop it moving around as it is agony.

Anyhow - I'm sure we all wish him a speedy recovery and I would not blame him one bit for that goal - it was just a freak accident.

I also read it in exactly the way you describe it.

 

[Slim Man]

A few people have been waiting for that to happen as he was an 'accident waiting to happen' and they're now proven right in their own strange minds.
Even though keepers make mistakes a good few times in a season, even De Gea and Lloris.

Sad and a bit strange.

 

[Woodthorpe blade]

What was actually wrong with Jamal then, injury wise?

 

[Inter_blade83]

I am really surprised people dont see this as an major error. He has jumped caught it and then somehow fell and dropped the ball leading to an open goal. Other than throwing it in his own net (which he pretty much did!l not sure how much more of a mistake you could make! It is not unlucky. He has dropped the ball. It is basic stuff really and regardless of contact from Carter Vickers he has to make sure he regains control of the ball. Not sure why he needed to take it so high (normally you telk keepers to take at highest point) as it made it so hard for him to come down without falling over. I think he has been great by the way but its a mistake.

If he's injured himself falling to the point he's had to leave the field of play, I think that's evidence enough to suggest you can't really put too much blame on him.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

We all have accidents. We all make mistakes. We move on. End of.

 

[The Crab]

We all have accidents. We all make mistakes. We move on. End of.

Have you been reading Crab Airlines mission statement?

 

[sitwell]

I'm going to risk a backlash here but anyone else think he might not be that injured?

Why risk the backlash that your embarrassing pathetic post deserves then ?

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I'm going to risk a backlash here but anyone else think he might not be that injured?

As a member of the goalkeepers' Union, I feel the duty to reply. I began my long and undistinguished career with a match against another junior school, and shortly before the end, I dropped the ball, and despite my efforts to stop their player, he scored and I rolled around on the floor pretending to be injured, in the way that only idiotic 10-year-olds and total knobheads like Angus Gunn do. I limped around for the final minutes in a way that my older brother later called 'an embarrassment to the family'. And when I was running around with the other kids after the game, the teacher commented, with one eyebrow slightly raised, that he was glad I had recovered. I never did it again, and of course the positive, particularly for a goalkeeper, is that if people trust you, they know that you need treatment if you appear injured. It happened to me twice - one broken wrist, and one torn cartilage (playing in the garden with my 11-year-old daughter). Each time the injury was immediately taken seriously.
Jamal was not feigning injury.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I am really surprised people dont see this as an major error. He has jumped caught it and then somehow fell and dropped the ball leading to an open goal. Other than throwing it in his own net (which he pretty much did!l not sure how much more of a mistake you could make! It is not unlucky. He has dropped the ball. It is basic stuff really and regardless of contact from Carter Vickers he has to make sure he regains control of the ball. Not sure why he needed to take it so high (normally you telk keepers to take at highest point) as it made it so hard for him to come down without falling over. I think he has been great by the way but its a mistake.

"Somehow fell" ?

Didn't you see the collision?

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm going to risk a backlash here but anyone else think he might not be that injured?

Dear me.

 

[TonyAgana]

How on earth can a one off, freak mistake in a split second have been ‘coming for a while?’

Surely the longer the while, the better the keeper?!

 

[mosbolad]

Why risk the backlash that your embarrassing pathetic post deserves then ?

It's only a football forum populated by well meaning knows nowts like me.

It crossed his mind surely he can air the view without being ridiculed?

 

[Rusty view]

Surely the longer the while, the better the keeper?!

All players make mistakes the better they are the less often the mistakes happen.

Unfortunately keepers mistakes usually end in goals. (TonyAgana will know all about my GK mistakes - there’s a cracker involving a bottle of JD)

Personally I think it was just unlucky how he landed rather than a mistake. He almost lands ball first (ooh err). If he lands on his side the ball probably doesn’t come loose.

Appreciate there’s a question of communication with the defender but we don’t know who or what was shouted.

It’s happened, we lost, we move on. We’re still 3rd.

 

[TonyAgana]

If there's an error, it's an error of communication. You're right keepers are taught to take the ball at it's highest point, although nowadays the maxim is punch it at it's highest point. No error in coming for the ball, no error in taking the ball. The collision was a heavy one and that caused the ball to drop out, unfortunate, but the questions have to be about the collision as that caused the issue. Did CCV not hear his shout? Did he not shout? Did he shout too late? Did CCV ignore the shout and think he'd deal with it anyway?

This is spot on; the only thing in question.

Notice how Sylla pulls out of the aerial challenge. That suggests to me he's either heeded Blackman's call and/or instinctively knew Big Bird was having it. CCV didn't (heed the call or have the instinct to bail).

 

[Hodgyman]

I wasn't the tallest keeper and admit to struggling a bit on crosses at times. One of the best bits of advice I received was to be very positive AND vocal. If defenders heard my call, they knew to get out of the way or perhaps get clattered themselves. The same went for attackers.

Hodgyman junior was a much bigger unit and inflicted more pain, both in the ears and body if others got in the way after he gave unambiguous notification of his intentions to come for the ball. From memory l can only remember one defender who was daft enough to get clattered more than once. The strength and assertiveness of the call was enough to even keep opposition players out of harms way. I cannot remember a single instance of a referee awarding a foul or penalty if an attacker came off worst after being given sufficient notice of the keeper's intentions so vocally. The other tip was to have the defender loop back and around to cover in case of the keeper spilling the ball.

They key points are calls should be loud and assertive enough to be heard by players, officials and even nit picking spectators.

 

[sitwell]

It's only a football forum populated by well meaning knows nowts like me.

It crossed his mind surely he can air the view without being ridiculed?

I think hes ridiculed himself. I mean what are you actually suggesting Blackman does here ?

 

[Davalon]

Dear me.

We'll see I suppose. I hope he's not.

It was a post that is there waiting to be shot at but I can't help my initial feelings and reaction at the time though, and I've not been one of those criticising him or waiting to stick the knife in.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

We'll see I suppose. I hope he's not.

It was a post that is there waiting to be shot at but I can't help my initial feelings and reaction at the time though, and I've not been one of those criticising him or waiting to stick the knife in.

You are right that forums are for airing opinions, and we should accept differences of opinion exist. I am a bit protective with goalies - they are the ones who know exactly what the crowd is thinking, and have the time to brood on it. Whispers and doubts can spread quickly, and when Jamal is dawdling with the ball at his feet, it is hard sometimes not to show concern. If the doubts grow (in my view at the moment, unfairly) it could affect his play. It certainly did George Long no good, whatever we think of his goalkeeping abilities.

 

[super_pig]

Ditto....

In fact why were your hammered for putting 'ditto' and accused of being on a witch hunt?

Sod it.....'you've been on a witch hunt for ages Greasy! I'm going back to 'like' super pigs comment.........

i may have replied to the wrong person.. sorry!