Incoming? Jamal Blackman

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That's understandable given the wages Blackman is on and the length of his contract. Wilder is probably thinking I can pick up an equivalent keeper for half of his wages.
Yes, but can he? Moore is good enough for us but you should have two good keepers with a bit of experience, not just one.
 
There's a pic doing the rounds on social media of a player at elland road. Looks just like Blackman, so he could be on his way there this summer.

Good move for him if so.
 
It would be hard to take if they got him permanently when we've only sorted ourselves out for one season with a loanee keeper.
 
It would be hard to take if they got him permanently when we've only sorted ourselves out for one season with a loanee keeper.
That depends on how well we've sorted ourselves out, because I've got a feeling Henderson is going to be a revelation.
Whisper it though, he doesn't need extra pressure.
 
Thats the photo in question so decide for yourself. Looks like he has Mick Hucknell for an agent too!
 

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That depends on how well we've sorted ourselves out, because I've got a feeling Henderson is going to be a revelation.
Whisper it though, he doesn't need extra pressure.

I think the point was that we’ve only got Henderson for one season
 
Isn’t that David stockdale?

He was an idiot that turned down premier league football to sign for Birmingham last year.
 
Confirmed as him up being the one seen at Elland road and Thorpe arch. Loan deal it's looking likely to be.
 
Isn’t that David stockdale?

He was an idiot that turned down premier league football to sign for Birmingham last year.

He did it for his kids apparently. Staying at Brighton would’ve meant moving his kids and he wasn’t prepared to do that. Besides, he probably got paid more at Birmingham.
 
I think the point was that we’ve only got Henderson for one season
No I got that, I was being tentative but I mean- isn't it better to have a keeper that might get us promoted in 1 season than Blackman who might keep us where we are now for the next 3 or 4?
It might be a bit of short-termism but its adventurous, its a positive gamble.
 
No I got that, I was being tentative but I mean- isn't it better to have a keeper that might get us promoted in 1 season than Blackman who might keep us where we are now for the next 3 or 4?
It might be a bit of short-termism but its adventurous, its a positive gamble.

I see what you mean but I can’t see a goalkeeper alone getting us promotion and I think Blackman was good enough anyway
 

Not sure why many are assuming Henderson is better than Blackman ? The reason we brought Henderson in is he was cheaper than Blackman. He may be better, he may not...but he's definitely cheaper.

How do you know that’s the reason?
 
Let's hope that this one doesn't backfire, else it really will be a shit week.

No Brooks
No Blackman
No bloody blades stripes on the back of the shirt.
 
Chelsea have just signed Rob Green, aged 38. Is it any wonder that the England team is short of young players with top league experience, when the Chelsea's of this world refuse to put their trust in players like Blackman?
 
Chelsea have just signed Rob Green, aged 38. Is it any wonder that the England team is short of young players with top league experience, when the Chelsea's of this world refuse to put their trust in players like Blackman?
Because Blackman will get far more playing time at Leeds than at Chelsea.

Its a great move by Chelsea in regards to Blackman's development.
 
Because Blackman will get far more playing time at Leeds than at Chelsea.

Its a great move by Chelsea in regards to Blackman's development.
It is absolutely the case that he will get game-time, as he did with us last season. But international keepers have to be mentally tough and full of confidence; there must be a danger that the message it builds up inside his head is that he is nowhere near good enough even to be a Premier League club's number 3, and that he is not as reliable as Caballero or Green. That thought is enough to knock any goalie's confidence.
 
Chelsea have just signed Rob Green, aged 38. Is it any wonder that the England team is short of young players with top league experience, when the Chelsea's of this world refuse to put their trust in players like Blackman?

Blackman will know as well as you or I that Rob Green won't play for Chelsea.

With that in mind, I'm sure he'd feel like another loan move is his best option.
 
Blackman will know as well as you or I that Rob Green won't play for Chelsea.

With that in mind, I'm sure he'd feel like another loan move is his best option.
Again, I accept all of that, but he still is along way away from being involved in Premier League football. I am having a go at the likes of Chelsea, really, in contrast with the way Pickford has been able to progress. Perhaps I need to move into the 'Unpopular opinions thread'!
 
Again, I accept all of that, but he still is along way away from being involved in Premier League football. I am having a go at the likes of Chelsea, really, in contrast with the way Pickford has been able to progress. Perhaps I need to move into the 'Unpopular opinions thread'!
Yes I also think you have misjudged the situation buddy. Chelsea basically run a nursery for footballers, and a player cannot grow if he doesn't play. Green is happy to pick up a last wage without playing, and eventually, Blackman will either make it with them, or he will be sold for big money, to more than pay for his development.
 
Again, I accept all of that, but he still is along way away from being involved in Premier League football. I am having a go at the likes of Chelsea, really, in contrast with the way Pickford has been able to progress. Perhaps I need to move into the 'Unpopular opinions thread'!

But Chelsea's logic is sound here. Loan to L1, Loan to a lower Championship team (based on predictions), Loan to higher Championship team, then loan to lower Premier League team. He'll be 26 then and if good enough could be their keeper for 5 years. If not good enough, they'll get £10-15 million for him.

His wages will be increasingly picked up by the loaning team, so free cost to Chelsea.
 
But Chelsea's logic is sound here. Loan to L1, Loan to a lower Championship team (based on predictions), Loan to higher Championship team, then loan to lower Premier League team. He'll be 26 then and if good enough could be their keeper for 5 years. If not good enough, they'll get £10-15 million for him.

His wages will be increasingly picked up by the loaning team, so free cost to Chelsea.
I don't doubt that it is good for Chelsea, but I really do not like it. I assume that their academy gets a crop of top kids every year, but how many have made it to the top in recent years? I can see that for the best 18-20 year-olds, a spell on loan gives them experience of grown-up football; but by 23/24, the best should be playing at the top, rather than being a cash-cow for already wealthy clubs. It is not good for English football, and it is not good for the individuals, in my opinion. Perhaps I just don't like Chelsea...
 
I don't doubt that it is good for Chelsea, but I really do not like it. I assume that their academy gets a crop of top kids every year, but how many have made it to the top in recent years? I can see that for the best 18-20 year-olds, a spell on loan gives them experience of grown-up football; but by 23/24, the best should be playing at the top, rather than being a cash-cow for already wealthy clubs. It is not good for English football, and it is not good for the individuals, in my opinion. Perhaps I just don't like Chelsea...

Oh, I agree, but I can see why they're doing it.

Lukaku is a prime example of the dangers of this approach with young players.

If you look at their graduates over the last 10 years, none have done anything for them in terms of their first team. In fact, John Terry aside, it's purely a money making affair.
 

Oh, I agree, but I can see why they're doing it.

Lukaku is a prime example of the dangers of this approach with young players.

If you look at their graduates over the last 10 years, none have done anything for them in terms of their first team. In fact, John Terry aside, it's purely a money making affair.
Agreed. And that is what I am instinctively suspicious of - taking small children into their system as a means of making money.
 

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