CONFIRMED Jairo Riedewald is back - re-signs

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The reason the Phillips deal has fallen through isnt because anyone has 'seen sense' Wilder has been pretty adamant that he wanted Phillips back. So, as some have suggested, hes either injured again or City wanted us to pay too much of his wages. Jairo was plan B not plan A.
 
The reason the Phillips deal has fallen through isnt because anyone has 'seen sense' Wilder has been pretty adamant that he wanted Phillips back. So, as some have suggested, hes either injured again or City wanted us to pay too much of his wages. Jairo was plan B not plan A.
We’re always criticised for not having a Plan B 😉

In this case Plan B > Plan A.
 
interesting he specifically said he was in contact with the club in May.

The communication from the club to the fans certainly didn't make it clear talks were ongoing.

Let's hope we can get him into a full 90 minutes now after previously joining in October.
 
interesting he specifically said he was in contact with the club in May.

The communication from the club to the fans certainly didn't make it clear talks were ongoing.

Let's hope we can get him into a full 90 minutes now after previously joining in October.
End of the day it’s the right outcome and if he’s happy about it then you can make the case no harm done.

Would be good to see us being more decisive.

I’d hate to think the plan is to offload all we feel we need to before we can make the correct moves or we’ll be reduced to picking up the dross that’s left.
 
This is a decent move in isolation but you have to think about it in squad terms too. The consequences:

  • if you play Riedewald and Rothwell together that is a slow pairing
  • you have to find someone else to play in Riedewald's place because whilst he's useful he is a pretty good bet to miss at least a third of the games, and he can't do 90 minutes either
  • he has a poor scoring record for a midfielder

Hence no more Shackleton-like scrappy midgets should come in as cover, as they won't help us.
 
i think phillips does have an injury issue and thats why jairo has been re signed good move for both parties and i also think rothwell will come good despite all the negativity about him on here
 
I wasnt disappointed to to jairo released and not disappointed to see him return .

He's a known entity and as risk free as you get which there are few of in the transfer market.

Hopefully this is abandoning the Philips signing who would be a very risky option and would probably consume 3 salaries.

If were going to take a few chances on signings make them with players who are low risk , high potential .

We tend to do ok with those .
 
As long as it’s not a dress and whicker handbag 👜
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So why rinse and repeat
Because we're a better team with Riedewald in the lineup. We were looking at a relegation scrap before Bamford and Riedewald came in as free agents and ended up comfortably mid-table.
If there was no way Jairo could ever play more than 60mins, then I'd be against the signing. But, if he can get up to full fitness with a proper pre-season, then we've got ourselves a very classy operator at this level. He clearly has the potential to play the full 90, because he did it multiple times last season.
If you look at the stats below where he played 75+ mins, you'll see a remarkable correlation between the time he was on the pitch and our best performances from last season:

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This is a decent move in isolation but you have to think about it in squad terms too. The consequences:

  • if you play Riedewald and Rothwell together that is a slow pairing
  • you have to find someone else to play in Riedewald's place because whilst he's useful he is a pretty good bet to miss at least a third of the games, and he can't do 90 minutes either
  • he has a poor scoring record for a midfielder

Hence no more Shackleton-like scrappy midgets should come in as cover, as they won't help us.
I wouldn’t be against Choudhury. We might have to wait but a late loan bid with option would give cover for the matches Riedewald may miss but also cover Seriki too.

You’d be getting 2 positions sorted in one swoop.

You could then focus on sorting out the central defence.

I suppose it also depends what formation we are focusing on then. We have few wide attacking players if we are persevering with 4-2-3-1 over switching to 5 at the back. I’d argue 5 at the back is cheaper to recruit for; in terms of cash, wingers > defenders.
 
I wouldn’t be against Choudhury. We might have to wait but a late loan bid with option would give cover for the matches Riedewald may miss but also cover Seriki too.

You’d be getting 2 positions sorted in one swoop.

You could then focus on sorting out the central defence.

I suppose it also depends what formation we are focusing on then. We have few wide attacking players if we are persevering with 4-2-3-1 over switching to 5 at the back. I’d argue 5 at the back is cheaper to recruit for; in terms of cash, wingers > defenders.
I’d be against that move because that’s yet another midfielder with no offensive output.

This is my point re squad building. You don’t want too many of the same type of players.

He would be a good signing if we hadn’t saddled ourselves needlessly with Rothwell.
 
I’d be against that move because that’s yet another midfielder with no offensive output.

This is my point re squad building. You don’t want too many of the same type of players.

He would be a good signing if we hadn’t saddled ourselves needlessly with Rothwell.
This is where my knowledge of Rothwell is limited. I always saw him as an alternative to Arblaster and Peck than an alternative to Phillips and Riedewald.
 
Because we're a better team with Riedewald in the lineup. We were looking at a relegation scrap before Bamford and Riedewald came in as free agents and ended up comfortably mid-table.
If there was no way Jairo could ever play more than 60mins, then I'd be against the signing. But, if he can get up to full fitness with a proper pre-season, then we've got ourselves a very classy operator at this level. He clearly has the potential to play the full 90, because he did it multiple times last season.
If you look at the stats below where he played 75+ mins, you'll see a remarkable correlation between the time he was on the pitch and our best performances from last season:

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Your deluded if you are happy with this level yof signing his CV for injuries outshines Tom Davis and Shackleton
He was a stop gap and helped but look at our performances when he’s done his sixty minutes
A backward underwhelming step by the Club .
 
Your deluded if you are happy with this level yof signing his CV for injuries outshines Tom Davis and Shackleton
He was a stop gap and helped but look at our performances when he’s done his sixty minutes
A backward underwhelming step by the Club .
Just silly to say he can only do 60 minutes, with a preseason and a drop to Championship football he will do a lot more. We have a prem player for a reasonable amount.
 
Your deluded if you are happy with this level yof signing his CV for injuries outshines Tom Davis and Shackleton
He was a stop gap and helped but look at our performances when he’s done his sixty minutes
A backward underwhelming step by the Club .
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Aside from the fact that he played more matches last season than Davies and Shackleton combined, we were also much better with him in the team. In fact, while he was on the pitch, our record was W12 D4 L4 as he was substituted while we were leading against West Brom, Norwich & Swansea and drawing against Wrexham (twice).

Our challenge is getting him beyond 75 minutes. That's it.
 
Pluses hes left footed and adds balance to the midfield. Steadying influence in front of the back four. Hes not a new signing who will take time to bed in. Minuses not athletic has little pace and a poor injury record.

For him to be effective there needs to be a physically strong energetic box to box midfielder alongside him. Souza type. Thats the gaping hole in the middle that hasnt been filled since Souza left.

The next few months will tell us whether a good pre season is all that was missing or whether he will fall into the perennial sick note brigade alongside Shackelton.
 
This is where my knowledge of Rothwell is limited. I always saw him as an alternative to Arblaster and Peck than an alternative to Phillips and Riedewald.

Jairo sits back and does the donkey defensive work, allowing Peck to attack more.
Rothwell is a bit similar, but more capable of the longer passes, although neither could remotely be considered box to box midfielders.

I've no idea what Blaster#2 might look like.
 
Not so sure, we need pace and power in midfield. We've got Jairo and Rothwell...
Do you need pace and power in midfield to succeed in the Championship? I can remember plenty of midfielders without either that have pushed their sides to promotion.
 
I wouldn’t be against Choudhury. We might have to wait but a late loan bid with option would give cover for the matches Riedewald may miss but also cover Seriki too.

You’d be getting 2 positions sorted in one swoop.

You could then focus on sorting out the central defence.

I suppose it also depends what formation we are focusing on then. We have few wide attacking players if we are persevering with 4-2-3-1 over switching to 5 at the back. I’d argue 5 at the back is cheaper to recruit for; in terms of cash, wingers > defenders.
Far too expensive for a squad player, which is what he’d be.
 



Your deluded if you are happy with this level yof signing his CV for injuries outshines Tom Davis and Shackleton
He was a stop gap and helped but look at our performances when he’s done his sixty minutes
A backward underwhelming step by the Club .


I've had a drink, so fuck it.

You're like a broken record. Presumably if we'd signed Mbappe you'd moan about his wages .

I know you want to hammer Wilder and the club, but an ex-Ajax midfielder, with 80 PL appearances, us hardly 'underwhelming'.
 

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