Jags as Manager?

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Not someone who I'd consider first choice, but;

  • Understands the Championship & Premier League
  • Experience of European & International football
  • Played, Captained & Coached under good managers - Warnock, Moyes, Martinez, Koeman & Wilder.
  • Probably has a good 'contact book' in the game to aid recruitment
  • Will "get" the club and fan expectations

It's an outfield suggestion, but I'd rather someone like Jags (if willing) get a go over a Lennon, Pardew etc.
 



If supporting us has taught me anything it is never, ever, appoint a rookie manager.

Our rookie managers:

Mercer
Peters
McEwan
Bruce
Speed
Weir

If that isn't proof you need someone who's done it before, I don't know what is. Let someone else break them in.
 
If supporting us has taught me anything it is never, ever, appoint a rookie manager.

Our rookie managers:

Mercer
Peters
McEwan
Bruce
Speed
Weir

If that isn't proof you need someone who's done it before, I don't know what is. Let someone else break them in.

Bruce and Speed managed us when we were a basket case of a club.

Spackman?
 
Very much needs someone with some experience for me. For whatever reason these players have dropped their heads/standards over the last 12+ months and I don't think any insider at the club will turn that around. It needs someone with some charisma and real leadership qualities for me. It's a big job trying to turn this around and needs a manager capable of a rebuilding job. Deffo not a job for a novice.
 
No thanks he’s completely unproven and this will be a pivotal 4 months to set up the next 5 years so I want an experienced hand please. There’s two former players in the building with at least some experience in lester and geary and I don’t want either of them either.
 
If supporting us has taught me anything it is never, ever, appoint a rookie manager.

Our rookie managers:

Mercer
Peters
McEwan
Bruce
Speed
Weir

If that isn't proof you need someone who's done it before, I don't know what is. Let someone else break them in.

It’s just madness - major football clubs operating outside the rules of basic logic.

A role involving incredible pressure, handling a huge number of reports, and with a high failure rate... Let’s give it to someone who’s never done it before. 🤷‍♂️
 
In a sense what is the difference between Jags taking over (with DoF) and Lampard's appointment at Derby?

Personally I don't see the Prince taking that risk BUT... our fans would definitely give him a lot more support/backing than any "outsider" if we had a difficult start.

I'm pretty sure he would carry the respect of the dressing room too.

Don't see it happening but with the support of an experienced No 2 - it's not the worst call.

UTB
 
In a sense what is the difference between Jags taking over (with DoF) and Lampard's appointment at Derby?

Personally I don't see the Prince taking that risk BUT... our fans would definitely give him a lot more support/backing than any "outsider" if we had a difficult start.

I'm pretty sure he would carry the respect of the dressing room too.

Don't see it happening but with the support of an experienced No 2 - it's not the worst call.

UTB
I’d say the difference would be the Everton are unlikely to send jags two future England players and a few others who will play most of their career at prem level
 
Jags is a practical joker. Doesn't strike me as the management type.
 
In a sense what is the difference between Jags taking over (with DoF) and Lampard's appointment at Derby?

Personally I don't see the Prince taking that risk BUT... our fans would definitely give him a lot more support/backing than any "outsider" if we had a difficult start.

I'm pretty sure he would carry the respect of the dressing room too.

Don't see it happening but with the support of an experienced No 2 - it's not the worst call.

UTB
If I'm not mistaken Lampard never made it out of the championship with Derby, so not sure why you think he'd do it with us.
And he certainly didn't set the Premier league alight with all the millions to spend & star players at his disposal.
 
Bruce and Speed managed us when we were a basket case of a club.

Spackman?
Yes, forgot Spackman. Couldn't take it and quit before an FA Cup quarter final, like Wilder has.

It doesn't matter what state the club is in. A rookie manager can make a bad situation worse. Look at David Weir. We might be a basket case next season.
 



If supporting us has taught me anything it is never, ever, appoint a rookie manager.

Our rookie managers:

Mercer
Peters
McEwan
Bruce
Speed
Weir

If that isn't proof you need someone who's done it before, I don't know what is. Let someone else break them in.
Now is certainly not the time for a rookie. When we appear to be in freefall we need someone experienced enough to stop said freefall.
 
If supporting us has taught me anything it is never, ever, appoint a rookie manager.

Our rookie managers:

Mercer
Peters
McEwan
Bruce
Speed
Weir

If that isn't proof you need someone who's done it before, I don't know what is. Let someone else break them in.

If you open up the definition of 'rookie' to be <2 seasons, you can add the case study of Adrian Heath to cement the hypothesis.
 
In a sense what is the difference between Jags taking over (with DoF) and Lampard's appointment at Derby?

Personally I don't see the Prince taking that risk BUT... our fans would definitely give him a lot more support/backing than any "outsider" if we had a difficult start.

I'm pretty sure he would carry the respect of the dressing room too.

Don't see it happening but with the support of an experienced No 2 - it's not the worst call.

UTB
Lampard did well at Derby
Gerrard has won the league
Rooney hasnt started too shabbily
Arteta hadnt managed before, but is doing ok

As mentioned we are at a crossroads, and therefore an experienced hand would be good, but you then get names like Hughes, Pardew, Silva, Pulis, (big Sam may be free in a few weeks!!) etc and thats a nightmare

So what we need is a young experienced coach, with knowledge of the Championship and Premiership looking ahead, good contacts book, instant respect in the dressing room who can rebuild a depleted and in some areas aging squad, who's confidence is on its arse - good luck wi that eh?!
 
I'd really like him to stay in a coach/assistant capacity to get experience. I think from his interviews he has a good football brain and would be an asset to continue to have around the changing room.
I'd take Eddie Howe with Jags as number 2.
 
I think footballers default/panic choice is to go into coaching as they know the game and its a safer option then starting a whole new career, however thought Jags had a couple of business interests? plus he seems more interested in spending any spare time playing golf
 
Not someone who I'd consider first choice, but;

  • Understands the Championship & Premier League
  • Experience of European & International football
  • Played, Captained & Coached under good managers - Warnock, Moyes, Martinez, Koeman & Wilder.
  • Probably has a good 'contact book' in the game to aid recruitment
  • Will "get" the club and fan expectations

It's an outfield suggestion, but I'd rather someone like Jags (if willing) get a go over a Lennon, Pardew etc.
We need a "manager" not a footballer at the end of his career
 
We need a "manager" not a footballer at the end of his career

Do we need to be hung up on the word "Manager" though?

Whether we like it or not, a DoF structure is coming in which will render what we once knew and called a "Manager" into effectively a "First Team Head Coach". I imagine this responsibility to be overseeing training, the playing & coaching staff and with most of the budgetary & recruitment burden being taken over by a DoF
 
I'd really like him to stay in a coach/assistant capacity to get experience. I think from his interviews he has a good football brain and would be an asset to continue to have around the changing room.
I'd take Eddie Howe with Jags as number 2.
Me too but given that he left for the same reason that Wilder left he's not likely to come is he ?
 
Not someone who I'd consider first choice, but;

  • Understands the Championship & Premier League
  • Experience of European & International football
  • Played, Captained & Coached under good managers - Warnock, Moyes, Martinez, Koeman & Wilder.
  • Probably has a good 'contact book' in the game to aid recruitment
  • Will "get" the club and fan expectations

It's an outfield suggestion, but I'd rather someone like Jags (if willing) get a go over a Lennon, Pardew etc.
He might be the man to get us back out of League 1
 
Jags brother has died at 43. Terribly sad. Puts all the goings on at the Lane in perspective. So sorry for your loss Phil.
 



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