It’s a pre season friendly

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Only been to one pre-season game, Kettering away in 2000(?), where Tonge and Jags played. Halcyon days.
 

The only thing I’m bothered about regards this friendly is the injury to Baldock, anyone heard anything on the seriousness of it?
 
wizadry said:
The only thing I’m bothered about regards this friendly is the injury to Baldock, anyone heard anything on the seriousness of it?
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Injuries building up nicely ... could be totally f***ed by start of season.... you couldn't make it up
 
247Blade said:
Injuries building up nicely ... could be totally f***ed by start of season.... you couldn't make it up
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At the same time people were throwing their toys out of the pram saying we needed a keeper in ASAP as Wes is out for ages until, er, he played yesterday
 
jt64 said:
At the same time people were throwing their toys out of the pram saying we needed a keeper in ASAP as Wes is out for ages until, er, he played yesterday
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Did anybody play yesterday... score suggests NOT
 
Deano said:
Brilliant. I bet you spent the whole of your McDonald’s night shift thinking that up and couldn’t wait to share it with your “mates” (well the closest you have to real mates) in Shoutbox. Soft xxxx.
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McDonald’s night shift is all I can get I’m afraid in this hard economic climate.

Ruddy Labour, eh?
 
I think many of you are missing a key point.

Yes, pre-season is about getting fit, etc, but we are going backwards as we move along in pre-season. To, all of a sudden, turn this around to go to Watford in 2 weeks and put in a performance to win is hard to believe at this stage of pre-season.

Maybe I am in the minority, but you have to win pre-season games and we have lost the last two v Scunny and Mansfield, and letting in 3 goals in each of the 2 games.

It also speaks to another issue I have always had, not just for this pre-season but all pre-seasons: why do we play 'inferior' teams? These are professional players and we should be playing much harder opposition to gauge our progress against... if we gauge two weeks from the season using Scunny and Mansfield as opposition, it does not auger well for the very important start to the season.

We must start off well or we will be in the same boat as last year and be in an uphill battle from the start.

Just my thoughts.

toledo
 
why do folk always mention the David Weir preseason when it comes to preseason, was there any other preseasons in our history where we won some games then did shit?

In 1987 we thrashed Skegness in a preseason friendly and kept a clean sheet and still went down for example.
 
WF10BLADE said:
why do folk always mention the David Weir preseason when it comes to preseason, was there any other preseasons in our history where we won some games then did shit?

In 1987 we thrashed Skegness in a preseason friendly and kept a clean sheet and still went down for example.
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Adkins season:

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FWIW I'd always rather win these games than lose but find it very hard to give a shit about the result or performances until they're worth points.

That said if it turns out I've paid to watch us lose to Burton Friday then lot's going up.
 

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LewishamBlade said:
On the hottest day on record
Behind closed doors

You fucking
sonofbruce said:
And in fairness to them they were probably more up for it as a higher league scalp can do wonders for confidence going into the season. I remember when we used to play a Premier League team in pre-season in out last warm up game, and the team would put in one hell of a shift and we often won. I can't see our players being that motivated to give their all, rightfully or wrongfully, against lower league opposition in a meaningless match. That said, they should still be able to do the basics like mark players and not let in cheap avoidable goals.
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People pay to watch this shit though after all.
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I’m like Roy Keane ,
I don’t do friendlies, we all know including our management team what & where needs improving ,
After second half of season Hecky gave us
I’ll hold mi breath to cool mi porridge
Regarding what he’s up to
 
brownblade said:
Mansfield freshened up half their team after 30 minutes. Then again at 60. If an opponent was allowed to do that in a competitive match we'd be livid and say the game's gone/demand compensation or something.

This was a friendly. Clough gave them an unfair advantage, despite their less capable players.

But it was a friendly and they were allowed to give themselves that advantage.

That being said, we're currently light in attacking options. The Prince and co will have had a gentle reminder of that
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brownblade said:
Mansfield freshened up half their team after 30 minutes. Then again at 60. If an opponent was allowed to do that in a competitive match we'd be livid and say the game's gone/demand compensation or something.

This was a friendly. Clough gave them an unfair advantage, despite their less capable players.

But it was a friendly and they were allowed to give themselves that advantage.

That being said, we're currently light in attacking options. The Prince and co will have had a gentle reminder of that .
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The time for a gentle reminder was a good while ago. Brewster as the main mn is what we're left with.
 
United Aren't Back. said:
The time for a gentle reminder was a good while ago. Brewster as the main mn is what we're left with.
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The window hasn't closed though.

And don't forget Billy Sharp!

If we sold Berge without a couple of quick replacements I'd be concerned. But I'm optimistic we'll bring in more quality.
 
Willglynning said:
Liverpool were 25 points clear with 9 games left before the lockdown and subsequent restart; it would have been quite extraordinary had they not managed to win the league with that kind of lead.

Initially, I scoffed at the rather lazy idea that since Liverpool managed to do well under lockdown that implies we should also have done well- Liverpool have an astronomically higher budget than we do, and arguably every player in their 25 man squad would walk straight into our first team.

But it turns out Liverpool are an interesting comparison point, actually. Ignoring the fact that their team is on another level than ours entirely- they are the only team to have a comparable implosion like we did in the near-entire season without fans. They finished with 30 fewer points in 20/21 than 19/20; we finished with 31 fewer points. Obviously the main caveat of this is that Liverpool’s ceiling is much, much higher than ours, and they still ended up finishing 3rd.

I’m not sure if you’re being purposefully obtuse, but as subsequent seasons with the same players have proven, we do not have a squad that can compete effectively with the rest of the premier league on paper. I’m not saying the sole reason for us going down that season was the lack of fans, but there have been several studies that have empirically demonstrated that teams performed worse without fans present. You can point to one off cases if you like, but the research shows that that is the case.

If you factor in how limited our squad was then I don’t think it’s a particularly bold leap to say that we were more affected by the lack of fans than much of the rest of the league, and especially a team that had just won the champions league.
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To do a fair comparison you would have to compare every team in the league with fans then without fans. For me it’s a crap excuse as everyone had the same problem.
 
Gavlar said:
To do a fair comparison you would have to compare every team in the league with fans then without fans. For me it’s a crap excuse as everyone had the same problem.
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For some teams I'd argue it's not even an problem, and over the course of a season is probably beneficial to not have fans on their back every game. Newcastle springs to mind as a pertinent example.
 
If we've ever got into the idea, we need to get out of the idea of playing 3-5-2.

It has to be either 3-4-1-2 or 3-4-2-1.

Even in the promotion season the flat 3 saw us playing dogshit until Duffy came in and we went 3-4-1-2.
 
mattbianco1 said:
Charlotte FC beat Chelsea. #announcerelegation

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Well....

They drew with an injury time penalty after Chelsea were the better team.

Then for some reason, because Americans are sportingly retarded, they had to for no apparent reason, have a penalty shoot out, where the worst team won.

Yea hah!
 
Champagneblade said:
Well....

They drew with an injury time penalty after Chelsea were the better team.

Then for some reason, because Americans are sportingly retarded, they had to for no apparent reason, have a penalty shoot out, where the worst team won.

Yea hah!
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So they drew with Charlotte FC? 4th bottom then 🤣

You see Conor Gallagher's pen?
 
mattbianco1 said:
So they drew with Charlotte FC? 4th bottom then 🤣

You see Conor Gallagher's pen?
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Too many bad penalties end up as goals, making the best of good fortune.

What happened to the good old days of always going for the corners?
 
Stu_Blade said:
The people I feel sorry for is the streamers that either paid £7 or the match pack £5-6 to watch that last night.
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Why? If people are prepared to pay £7 for a meaningless game that is their choice. If anyone expects a full gas performance then they probably shouldn't be let loose with that £7 anywhere else!
 

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