Silent Blade
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Received the book this morningSilent Blade Gateford Blade Royal Mail have had a nightmare on this one - if you haven’t received by end of week give me a shout
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Received the book this morningSilent Blade Gateford Blade Royal Mail have had a nightmare on this one - if you haven’t received by end of week give me a shout
Hands up if you were given this as a Christmas present.
Or a black eye or two. Like he gave his missus on special occasions.Hands up if you were given this as a Christmas present.
I was only a kid when TC played but remember him fondly. I was one of the thousands on the Kop who clapped him when Leeds spanked us at the Lane in the League Cup just after he’d signed for them. Hagen on the other hand I have no reference point as he was well before my time of watching the Blades since 1971. One thing I seem to remember (and if you could help with this I would be extremely grateful) is that I seem to remember an interview on tv with the great Bill Shankly when Liverpool were starting out on their epic run, around about the 1974 FA Cup final. Shanks was on about players he had seen back in the day and he gave his top 3 players of all time…… I’m sure Duncan Edwards was no. 1 and , I may be way off here, he named Jimmy Hagen as no. 2. I’m not sure if you have any recollection of this ISJS ? Nowadays it would be a quick YouTube search. I think it was a Saturday morning Grandstand interview.The saying ‘ Comparisons are odious ‘ has never been more appropriate than that often drawn on here between TC and Sir James via a father / grandfather/ great grandfather and Uncle Tom Cobbley and all .
Having watched both of them many times , and whilst they were different types of players playing in different eras I would say that in terms of their skill sets , overall contribution to the team and ability to entertain there is hardly a hairs breadth between them .
I am more than content with the fact that our club has been blessed with having the services of two such outstanding footballers and find it both annoying and frustrating that some who have only seen one of them , or in some cases neither , should seek to draw comparisons .
Hands up if you were given this as a Christmas present.
I was only a kid when TC played but remember him fondly. I was one of the thousands on the Kop who clapped him when Leeds spanked us at the Lane in the League Cup just after he’d signed for them. Hagen on the other hand I have no reference point as he was well before my time of watching the Blades since 1971. One thing I seem to remember (and if you could help with this I would be extremely grateful) is that I seem to remember an interview on tv with the great Bill Shankly when Liverpool were starting out on their epic run, around about the 1974 FA Cup final. Shanks was on about players he had seen back in the day and he gave his top 3 players of all time…… I’m sure Duncan Edwards was no. 1 and , I may be way off here, he named Jimmy Hagen as no. 2. I’m not sure if you have any recollection of this ISJS ? Nowadays it would be a quick YouTube search. I think it was a Saturday morning Grandstand interview.
If Shankly did in fact name JH as his no. 2 top player to Duncan Edwards than that alone should seal his name in the Blades top player of all time ?
Shankly used to say that the best player he had ever seen was Peter Doherty, the pre-war Irish international.I was only a kid when TC played but remember him fondly. I was one of the thousands on the Kop who clapped him when Leeds spanked us at the Lane in the League Cup just after he’d signed for them. Hagen on the other hand I have no reference point as he was well before my time of watching the Blades since 1971. One thing I seem to remember (and if you could help with this I would be extremely grateful) is that I seem to remember an interview on tv with the great Bill Shankly when Liverpool were starting out on their epic run, around about the 1974 FA Cup final. Shanks was on about players he had seen back in the day and he gave his top 3 players of all time…… I’m sure Duncan Edwards was no. 1 and , I may be way off here, he named Jimmy Hagen as no. 2. I’m not sure if you have any recollection of this ISJS ? Nowadays it would be a quick YouTube search. I think it was a Saturday morning Grandstand interview.
If Shankly did in fact name JH as his no. 2 top player to Duncan Edwards than that alone should seal his name in the Blades top player of all time ?
Shankly used to say that the best player he had ever seen was Peter Doherty, the pre-war Irish international.
Mind you, Shankly used to say a lot of stuff like that.
Seemed to like the Leeds period betterHopefully the promotion to division 1 in the early 70's will take a fair chunk of this book.
TC,Woody& Co's greatest time as blades ,I think its the 50th aniversary of that feat this season.
Hopefully the club will commemorate it .
For me and plenty of other blades I'm sure enjoyed that period better than any since.
TC & Woody and of course the rest in their pomp!
Bought it myself, wife saw it on the side and said oh the boys can give you that for Christmas!! So yes sort ofHands up if you were given this as a Christmas present.
Yes I was probably there then. I always remember the Derby team at that time had a very fine trio at 8.9,and10 of Raich Carter, Jack Stamps and Peter Doherty. Did he go from Derby to them.? I also remember him coming to the Lane late on in his career with Doncaster, one Xmas time if my memory is correct. Great player.My first clear recollection of an incident in a Blades match is that of Peter Doherty scoring against us .
This would have been in early 1948 when I was just turned 7 . I was aware of his ability before I went to the match having read about him and the fact that my old man had told me that , as an inside forward , he was second only to Jimmy Hagan .
Even at that young age , I noticed early in the match that he had that almost indefinable ability to ghost past players as if they weren’t there which I later discovered to be the hallmark of some of the truly greats .
Sure enough , that’s just what he did in the build up to his goal which he then calmly passed into the bottom corner of the goal right in front of where I was standing to give Huddersfield a 1-0 victory .
ISJS - I'm not old enough to have seen Hagen (started in 1966) , but, according to my Dad, my Uncle Stan (Rhodes) was his deputy when injured. My Dad said he only played about 30 games for Utd. Can't find any stats about him anywhere, but he also played for Leeds in the 50s, and went on to become Worksop Town's top goal scorer ever until someone beat his tally in the 90s. Do you recall him, or know where his stats may be found? Also SilentBlade may be able to help?My first clear recollection of an incident in a Blades match is that of Peter Doherty scoring against us .
This would have been in early 1948 when I was just turned 7 . I was aware of his ability before I went to the match having read about him and the fact that my old man had told me that , as an inside forward , he was second only to Jimmy Hagan .
Even at that young age , I noticed early in the match that he had that almost indefinable ability to ghost past players as if they weren’t there which I later discovered to be the hallmark of some of the truly greats .
Sure enough , that’s just what he did in the build up to his goal which he then calmly passed into the bottom corner of the goal right in front of where I was standing to give Huddersfield a 1-0 victory .
ISJS - I'm not old enough to have seen Hagen (started in 1966) , but, according to my Dad, my Uncle Stan (Rhodes) was his deputy when injured. My Dad said he only played about 30 games for Utd. Can't find any stats about him anywhere, but he also played for Leeds in the 50s, and went on to become Worksop Town's top goal scorer ever until someone beat his tally in the 90s. Do you recall him, or know where his stats may be found? Also SilentBlade may be able to help?
ISJS - I'm not old enough to have seen Hagen (started in 1966) , but, according to my Dad, my Uncle Stan (Rhodes) was his deputy when injured. My Dad said he only played about 30 games for Utd. Can't find any stats about him anywhere, but he also played for Leeds in the 50s, and went on to become Worksop Town's top goal scorer ever until someone beat his tally in the 90s. Do you recall him, or know where his stats may be found? Also SilentBlade may be able to help?
ISJS - I'm not old enough to have seen Hagen (started in 1966) , but, according to my Dad, my Uncle Stan (Rhodes) was his deputy when injured. My Dad said he only played about 30 games for Utd. Can't find any stats about him anywhere, but he also played for Leeds in the 50s, and went on to become Worksop Town's top goal scorer ever until someone beat his tally in the 90s. Do you recall him, or know where his stats may be found? Also SilentBlade may be able to help?
Yes I was probably there then. I always remember the Derby team at that time had a very fine trio at 8.9,and10 of Raich Carter, Jack Stamps and Peter Doherty. Did he go from Derby to them.? I also remember him coming to the Lane late on in his career with Doncaster, one Xmas time if my memory is correct. Great player.
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