CONFIRMED Iliman Ndiaye to Marseille

[ISZA ⚔️]

He has been great for us!He is now under real pressure to deliver! there fan's greeting him like a god. Hopefully he can cope with this pressure he has now', this was not evident when at the Blades! It will be an interesting side issue.

Do they not just do this for every fucker they sign?

 

[Davalon]

Jeez Darren Smith might be a lovely fella in real life but his twitter self needs slapping with a wet fish.

A more fragile ego would be hard to find. His disciples don't help by rallying round him as though he's going through a life crisis.

And as for the muppet who suggested Fitzy only had a dig because LIV ignored him.

I'm firmly at the stage now where I think he's actually doing more harm than good as PA's mouthpiece.

 

[Flumps]

I'll take a guess: "Listen... We wanted Iliman to stay, but we wish him luck. Listen... We've got to keep working and preparing. (Face/Forehead wipe) We've got to be at our best this season and we need a few more bodies to be competitive. But listen... Everyone at this club will give it their all."

I mean, it has to be relatively from the book doesn't it, he can barely say "what? Illys leaving? He said he was going France but I thought that was a holiday, I signed his holiday request form off and everything... Well fuck me, what do I do now? I had him up front for the Palace match. Fuck sake"

Although his actual thoughts if he's pissed off about it would be very interesting. It'll be as you say, the standard "shame but good luck, can't force him here"

 

[CrookesBlade]

You can’t blame financial mismanagement on Wilder, he didn’t sign the cheques. He made some poor and costly signings but the financial side is not Wilder’s domain.

I get the point on Ndiaye’s contract situation but him and MGW were a very good combination so it wasn’t just last season. A top Championship player on a reported £4k a week is a paltry sum. We could have easily doubled or trebled it and tied him down until 2025, then if he wants to go to Marseille we get what he’s worth and not sub £20m.

I caveated that (I think) with “under Wilder”. The club recruitment model was a mess thanks to all parties involved and pulling in different directions.

for me by the end of 21/22 he’d only just nailed down a regular place in the team so I can see why a new contract wasn’t too priority. He went from a £10m player to £35million in the blink of an eye.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I caveated that (I think) with “under Wilder”. The club recruitment model was a mess thanks to all parties involved and pulling in different directions.

for me by the end of 21/22 he’d only just nailed down a regular place in the team so I can see why a new contract wasn’t too priority. He went from a £10m player to £35million in the blink of an eye.

I think we live in a world where a 1 year extension in favour of the club is commonplace. It would have made sense with a prospect like Ndiaye. Someone fucked up and it's cost us Ndiaye this season and whatever increase in value we'd have got with him having a PL season behind him, albeit Marseille could have come and done the same next summer or paid a lot more this summer.

 

[Blade1959]

I'll take a guess: "Listen... We wanted Iliman to stay, but we wish him luck. Listen... We've got to keep working and preparing. (Face/Forehead wipe) We've got to be at our best this season and we need a few more bodies to be competitive. But listen... Everyone at this club will give it their all."

He’s on Radio Sheffield for an hour tonight

 

[AWetFlannel]

It's right that we've been trying to pin Ndiaye down to a contract for a while now, so understand why people are bringing it up.

But what sort of contract were we offering while under a transfer embargo for unpaid debts? It can't have been impressive. He might not have signed anyway but we didn't give ourselves a chance because of our embarrassing financial situation.

 

[CrookesBlade]

I think we live in a world where a 1 year extension in favour of the club is commonplace. It would have made sense with a prospect like Ndiaye. Someone fucked up and it's cost us Ndiaye this season and whatever increase in value we'd have got with him having a PL season behind him, albeit Marseille could have come and done the same next summer or paid a lot more this summer.

Yeah must admit nearly everyone else in the club seems to have an extension clause in their contract. Maybe got turned down in the protracted contract negotiations.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Yeah must admit nearly everyone else in the club seems to have an extension clause in their contract. Maybe got turned down in the protracted contract negotiations.

Yep I think we do that as standard so Ndiah and agent would have declined.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Eskimo]

I caveated that (I think) with “under Wilder”. The club recruitment model was a mess thanks to all parties involved and pulling in different directions.

for me by the end of 21/22 he’d only just nailed down a regular place in the team so I can see why a new contract wasn’t too priority. He went from a £10m player to £35million in the blink of an eye.

I know nothing, but I was pretty sure after the Peterborough match we’d got something special that needed nurturing and … investment

 

[Harrisblade]

Sorted his contract situation out 18 months ago when it became clear that he was a star in the making who just needed some physical conditioning to get through 90 mins.
I'm fine with the fact that we took the only course of action NOW, it's just that the previous 18 months of financial mismanagement have led us to a point where Ndiaye is the first player of around 15 who are likely to leave us either in the last year of their contract, or even worse, walk for free at the end of their contract. It smacks of mismanagement and a lack of direction.

Ndiaye signed a 3 year contract in 2021, before he broke into the first team and then was invited to discuss a new contract in June 2022 but he and/or his agent didn't want to.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Ndiaye signed a 3 year contract in 2021, before he broke into the first team and then was invited to discuss a new contract in June 2022 but he and/or his agent didn't want to.

Apparently so, I can't remember anything being mentioned on new contracts for Ndiaye until the JTW last season.

For me it's still a huge cock-up that the 3 year contract didn't have a year option in it. I thought it was just standard now for that to happen.

 

[YES Blade]

Apparently so, I can't remember anything being mentioned on new contracts for Ndiaye until the JTW last season.

For me it's still a huge cock-up that the 3 year contract didn't have a year option in it. I thought it was just standard now for that to happen.

Probably is, but if the player says he ain’t signing unless it’s removed, then we obviously took the decision to remove the clause than lose him a lot sooner.

It’s a contract negotiation, unfortunately we aren’t going to have everything our own way.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Probably is, but if the player says he ain’t signing unless it’s removed

If we can't get a one year extension clause put in a contract for a player who previously played for Boreham Wood and 'Rising Ballers' then we need to shut the club down and do something else. He wasn't our star player at this time, he was an unknown quantity who got cramp after 60 mins of every game.

 

[BadgersBigToe]

Has he ‘officially’ signed for OM yet?

 

[Mojo]

His agent has played a blinder really. He knew the lad was special and made us sign a contract where the ball was entirely in his court, knowing he would likely excell and then be able to do whatever they wanted.

It's just our club being stupid enough to not see it coming and protect against it. Can't say we didn't envisage it as prince said at the time he was the best signing we could possibly make. In that context a 3 year contract on low wages with absolutely zero protection was pretty shite really.

 

[YES Blade]

If we can't get a one year extension clause put in a contract for a player who previously played for Boreham Wood and 'Rising Ballers' then we need to shut the club down and do something else. He wasn't our star player at this time, he was an unknown quantity who got cramp after 60 mins of every game.

I honestly don’t know what happened during the contract negotiations back in 2021, but I’m not going to start suggesting it was incompetence by those who handled the negotiation.

What are you suggesting? We forgot to put the extra year option in the contract? Or that we should’ve walked way from the contract negotiation if he refused to include the clause?

 

[Houston_Blade]

I honestly don’t know what happened during the contract negotiations back in 2021, but I’m not going to start suggesting it was incompetence by those who handled the negotiation.

What are you suggesting? We forgot to put the extra year option in the contract? Or that we should’ve walked way from the contract negotiation if he refused to include the clause?

Either forgot or managed to allow, what was at the time, an academy prospect play hardball with us. Either way it's backfired.

 

[YES Blade]

Either forgot or managed to allow, what was at the time, an academy prospect play hardball with us. Either way it's backfired.

Would’ve back fired even more had he not signed in 2021, left us a lot sooner and torn the Championship a new’un with another club!

 

[Houston_Blade]

Would’ve back fired even more had he not signed in 2021, left us a lot sooner and torn the Championship a new’un with a different club!

That's a possibility, but if that had have happened then again, we need to give up being a football club. You don't get bullied by an academy prospect with a handful of 1st team appearances under his belt.

 

[JS Blade]

Excellent player, skillful and strong. I'm sure he will go on to have an even bigger move than this one.

played a massive part last year - carried us at times and in a season where we desperately needed promotion fianncially he pulled us through.

His 6 or 7 goals next season would not have kept us up alone glad we got a fee for him providing it's reinvested. Time for someone else to shine and the club to show their intentions now. you cant stop a player from leaving if he wants to but it's how you react that shows the truth.

Reinvest the money, improve 2 positions (LB & CM - Presuming Trusty is already done at LCB) and were stronger. Slimane will be a great player, brewster to come back in and feature. Cannot speak highly enough of illiman Ndiaye but it seems people think he was going to take the premier league by storm and that was never going to happen.

 

[CrookesBlade]

I know nothing, but I was pretty sure after the Peterborough match we’d got something special that needed nurturing and … investment

Yes. He looked a step above any young player making his proper debut in the first team that I can remember since maybe Curtis Woodhouse who got POTY in his first season.

Still seemed very raw though at first. Took too many touches etc. He was in and out of the side for a while though and certainly wasn’t at the level MGW was. It was only in the play off run in that we started to see him nail down a position as part of a front 3.

Look at Jebbison, Osula etc and even further back to Jagielka and Tonge. None of them had/have the trajectory that Ndiaye had, it’s unprecedented.

Plus if you stick a new deal infront of him a few weeks/months after he’s just signed one then what’s that doing to the rest of the squads expectations when it comes to contracts.

They could have offered him loads last summer to sign a new deal but they didn’t have it. If we were paying Ndiaye 30k per week they’d only have had to sell him in January anyway.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing etc.

 

[YES Blade]

That's a possibility, but if that had have happened then again, we need to give up being a football club. You don't get bullied by an academy prospect with a handful of 1st team appearances under his belt.

We need to give up because we can’t bully players and their agents into signing contracts on our terms and ours alone?

There are 43 other clubs in the Championship and Premier League. We’re competing against them, we can’t go all Billy big bollocks into negotiations because players will just sign for one of the other clubs!

 

[ben1987]

Has he ‘officially’ signed for OM yet?

Nothing has been officially announced but we just have to move on now.

He’s there, pending a catastrophic fall out or failed medical then it’s a done deal.

Would we take him back now after everything if it did fall though and just hand him that contract back on a silver platter? Could be pretty toxic.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

Nothing has been officially announced but we just have to move on now.

He’s there, pending a catastrophic fall out or failed medical then it’s a done deal.

Would we take him back now after everything if it did fall though and just hand him that contract back on a silver platter? Could be pretty toxic.

YES.

 

[Harrisblade]

That's a possibility, but if that had have happened then again, we need to give up being a football club. You don't get bullied by an academy prospect with a handful of 1st team appearances under his belt.

How many clubs have extensions to their academy players contracts before they've even played in the first team?

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Jeez Darren Smith might be a lovely fella in real life but his twitter self needs slapping with a wet fish.

A more fragile ego would be hard to find. His disciples don't help by rallying round him as though he's going through a life crisis.

And as for the muppet who suggested Fitzy only had a dig because LIV ignored him.

I'm firmly at the stage now where I think he's actually doing more harm than good as PA's mouthpiece.

If I was him now I’d probably get rid of Twitter / X for a period of time. Ultimately it’s nice having some insights into goings on but it’s clearly worrying fans more than anything.

Fans don’t really need to know what’s going on. It’s going to happen either way.

 

[Houston_Blade]

We need to give up because we can’t bully players and their agents into signing contracts on our terms and ours alone?

There are 43 other clubs in the Championship and Premier League. We’re competing against them, we can’t go all Billy big bollocks into negotiations because players will just sign for one of the other clubs!

I don't think we're going to agree, I think it was borderline negligent to not have Ndiaye tied down a bit longer. You disagree.

Your opinion isn't going to change, neither is mine.

May as well move on and look forward to Ben Osborn playing off Will Osula in the first PL game of the season.

 

[Houston_Blade]

How many clubs have extensions to their academy players contracts before they've even played in the first team?

I'm not sure. Do you know?

In my opinion there should have been an extension clause if we were as excited about Ndiaye as the owner was at the time of the contract being signed.

If you don't think there should have been then that's fair enough.