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We will be on the same amount of points at this point in the season as we were under Robson..... (which by the way is a 3rd of the way through the season) Well that's if we draw, if we lose we will be worse off

Shoes off? hahaha
 

Well i don't know about others but I hadn't turned against Robson until December (the end of if I remember correctly)
 
The Stoke home match when we were 3-0 down after 15 minutes is when I began to turn against Bryan Robson slightly (and that was in December)... but I didn't turn against him completely until the moment he played 4-5-1 in the derby at Hillsborough when we lost 2-0 and got battered for much of the 90 minutes.
 
Well i don't know about others but I hadn't turned against Robson until December (the end of if I remember correctly)


Me too. I believe it was the incredibly limp performance against Palace at home which sealed it for me. Couldn’t believe he managed to soldier on for another for another two months.
 
Well i don't know about others but I hadn't turned against Robson until December (the end of if I remember correctly)

I think he'd lost most fans by then to be honest. I remember the Arsenal game, we sat on the Kop that night and it was very, very hostile towards him. That was the game someone walked over and threw his scarf at Robson and half the ground sang "he's a blade" at him as he was escorted out by stewards.

Having quickly googled it (I'm not one for remembering today's date, let alone dates of past games) that was almost exactly two years ago; November 1st.

I'm not really sure you can compare the two anyway, expectations were probably (rightly) higher that season because we had an amazing squad, had spent big and had narrowly been relegated. Any manager that came in needed to hit the ground running and I think most fans thought Robson was the wrong man from the start (some openly hostile to him from the beginning).

On the flip side Blackwell has been here for almost a couple of years and things aren't improving. The squad is much weaker, the football (on the whole) hasn't got any better, we're tumbling down the league and he seems to be clutching at quick fixes (loanees and 30-something freebies) instead of building for the long term.

I thought Robson deserved to be sacked after just a couple of months, I think Blackwell deserves to be sacked now (after nearly a couple of years) for completely different reasons (although of course, it does ultimately come down to results). The fact that it's roughly the same time of year is irrelevant.
 
I felt sick seeing the odds shortening on Robson, his appointment was unbelievable. Point is you don't sack a manager until you have a better replacement in line. Sacking Warnock was a mistake. Appointing Blackwell was, in the circumstances a good decision at the time
 
Well i don't know about others but I hadn't turned against Robson until December (the end of if I remember correctly)
You took your time then.;)
... but I didn't turn against him completely until the moment he played 4-5-1 in the derby at Hillsborough when we lost 2-0 and got battered for much of the 90 minutes.
The day we just turned up and rolled over.
Any manager that came in needed to hit the ground running and I think most fans thought Robson was the wrong man from the start (some openly hostile to him from the beginning).
When he was appointed i wasn't exactly ecstatic to say the least, but I was also of the view that "we might as well give him a chance, he might be brilliant". Alas, he wasn't, not by a long way.

I felt sick seeing the odds shortening on Robson, his appointment was unbelievable.

I didn't want Robson to start with.....

Robson for me was the wrong choice. I didn't want him, and I thought he was totally and utterly clueless with regards to what being Sheffield United manager means. He talked up the derby as "just another game" and that for me was the final and long overdue nail in his coffin. It's not just another game, you sanctimonious twat.

At least Blackwell has some idea of what the fans want, even though he doesn't seem to always act upon that.
 
I felt sick seeing the odds shortening on Robson, his appointment was unbelievable. Point is you don't sack a manager until you have a better replacement in line. Sacking Warnock was a mistake. Appointing Blackwell was, in the circumstances a good decision at the time


Warnock wasn't sacked
 
Yep, the Robson debacle peaked around the Pigs game for me. Never felt so sad watching the Blades.

At least under Blackwell we had a good go at them (even if we did lose both last year).
 
You lot must have been disappointed by the away win in the Cup at Bolton, the Home win in the Cup Vs City, and the away point at table toppers WBA.

The game at home Vs Stoke was a bit of a Shell Shocker for me :eek:
 
My watershed with Robson came, as I recall, after we got done 2-0 at Ashton Gate having been played off the park. What did it was Robson coming out and saying the players werent good enough etc despite them either being his signings or players who had been good enough to take relegation to the last day of the Premiership season when most thought wed be down by Christmas.

The few months after that were dismal with Cardiff away, Palace at home, Pigs away and Scunthorpe at home being notable low points. I can only really think of two decent performances under that man, Man City in the Cup and Charlton away.

People mention the Stoke game which was a debacle but what made it worse, and summed up his entire time in charge for me, was his bizarre quote afterwards about how wed been on top until the first goal. I think their first came after 3 minutes or so. For a bloke who had been such a tough, combative player, he was endlessly looking for excuses and when he blamed the fans for his teams failure to beat bottom of the league Scunthorpe at home after having a man adavntage for 80 minutes, I was about as disgusted as Ive ever been with a United manager. Its not going too far to say I was "mad with rage".
 
The Stoke home match when we were 3-0 down after 15 minutes is when I began to turn against Bryan Robson slightly (and that was in December)... but I didn't turn against him completely until the moment he played 4-5-1 in the derby at Hillsborough when we lost 2-0 and got battered for much of the 90 minutes.


Exactly the same for me
 

I was another one who was unsure about Robson being appointed - but because I knew I was sceptical I made extra efforts to try to keep an open mind and balanced opinions.

Then he started to say things like "the players aren't as good as I'd been told they were" - and having a pop at Morgan etc etc. Just what a recently relegated side needs to hear!

For me the man was an appalling manager - I honestly believe we would have been better off if he'd had kept away from the club and let Morgs run the show as skipper. No manager at all was a better option that Robson!!

Can't remember when my patience ran out (probably away at Bristol whenever that was) - and I was one of those in the car park (though some of the person abuse he took was too far beyond the pale for my liking)

So far I'm still behind KB. I've never had much confidence in him, though I put that down to his lack of charisma (he's no Bassett or Warnock in that dept!). We have shown we can play good football - but for whatever reason KB (or maybe it's the players as others have suggested?) seems too ready to resort to direct balls up to Hendo. And it's difficult to know how good/bad we are with so many players crocked/suspended including at least 3 first team regulars.

For what it's worth I think it's largely impossible to compare managers by using stats as there are too many variables. The division we're playing in, the finances available, the expectations of the fans etc etc all have a major bearing and have changed from manager to manager. I would say that KB hasn't made his mark in the way of Dave or Neil - and I think his lack of "personality" will hinder him there - but IMO, some of the stick on this thread is more about fans frustration than about KB's record.

I have considerable doubts that KB will ever achieve what Dave or Neil did at the Lane - but they had their critics too - and KB is undoubtedly a far better manager than Robson. I'm still undecided if he's good enough though :confused:
 
Yep, the Robson debacle peaked around the Pigs game for me. Never felt so sad watching the Blades.

At least under Blackwell we had a good go at them (even if we did lose both last year).


In the home game last season we did not have a good go at them. We were absolutely dreadful.
 
I was another one who was unsure about Robson being appointed - but because I knew I was sceptical I made extra efforts to try to keep an open mind and balanced opinions.

Then he started to say things like "the players aren't as good as I'd been told they were" - and having a pop at Morgan etc etc. Just what a recently relegated side needs to hear!

For me the man was an appalling manager - I honestly believe we would have been better off if he'd had kept away from the club and let Morgs run the show as skipper. No manager at all was a better option that Robson!!

Can't remember when my patience ran out (probably away at Bristol whenever that was) - and I was one of those in the car park (though some of the person abuse he took was too far beyond the pale for my liking)

So far I'm still behind KB. I've never had much confidence in him, though I put that down to his lack of charisma (he's no Bassett or Warnock in that dept!). We have shown we can play good football - but for whatever reason KB (or maybe it's the players as others have suggested?) seems too ready to resort to direct balls up to Hendo. And it's difficult to know how good/bad we are with so many players crocked/suspended including at least 3 first team regulars.

For what it's worth I think it's largely impossible to compare managers by using stats as there are too many variables. The division we're playing in, the finances available, the expectations of the fans etc etc all have a major bearing and have changed from manager to manager. I would say that KB hasn't made his mark in the way of Dave or Neil - and I think his lack of "personality" will hinder him there - but IMO, some of the stick on this thread is more about fans frustration than about KB's record.

I have considerable doubts that KB will ever achieve what Dave or Neil did at the Lane - but they had their critics too - and KB is undoubtedly a far better manager than Robson. I'm still undecided if he's good enough though :confused:
Good post i agree with most of it especially the robson thing as many thought he was only appointed so McCabe could say we have a former England captain as manager. As for KB i am disappointed as much as anything simply because i expected a different reaction from him in recent weeks but he has never acknowledged there is a problem which there clearly is in the camp, the injuries are unfortunate with such as small squad but we are still putting a strong 11 together not our strongest but certainly capable of winning the games we have lost in recent weeks. I think he has to approach tonight like he did against the pigs go at them from word go bombard there area and kill the game off before half time we are capable and can do that i'd hate to see a negative start because they will break us down.
 
we are still putting a strong 11 together not our strongest but certainly capable of winning the games we have lost in recent weeks.

And here my friend, is just the point I'm undecided upon. I'm content to believe that KB hasn't lost the changing room (unsubstantiated rumours) - and I'm content to accept his transfer dealings (he filled all the weaknesses I could see at the end of last season) - - but I have questions over his ability to get the best out of his players - both individually (motivation) and as a team (tactically) - - and as Bergen has pointed out really well, with the man-to-man marking system we use, any lack of motivation will lead to goals being conceded.

I'm prepared to wait until we have a fit squad before drawing conclusions - but I am concerned.
 
And here my friend, is just the point I'm undecided upon. I'm content to believe that KB hasn't lost the changing room (unsubstantiated rumours) - and I'm content to accept his transfer dealings (he filled all the weaknesses I could see at the end of last season) - - but I have questions over his ability to get the best out of his players - both individually (motivation) and as a team (tactically) - - and as Bergen has pointed out really well, with the man-to-man marking system we use, any lack of motivation will lead to goals being conceded.

I'm prepared to wait until we have a fit squad before drawing conclusions - but I am concerned.
at this rate we will never have a fully fit squad by the looks i would certainly like to see us with monty back our down turn started when he got injured not the most gifted but a position we haven't filled. we have plenty of midfielders but not defensive
 
blackwell out we doing worse than when we had robson. Stop having united blinkers on face the truth it time he went. I fink that 4 wins in 14?
 
I fink that 4 wins in 14?

It's THINK. The Fink project is an effort to port and package open-source Unix programs to Mac OS X. Whatever the fuck that means. It's nerd-speak, ask Foxy.

Please, if you are going to try to use the English language at least have a better stab at it than you are managing so far. We've got foreign members of this site who have a better grasp of the language than you. Hell, we've probably got monkeys reading this with a better command of the spoken and written word.

*Memo to Linz - does this count?
 
Bryan Robson was at least a nice pleasant person. "NOT NASTY, NOT ARROGANT, NOT SELF OPINIONATED!"
 
Bryan Robson was at least a nice pleasant person. "NOT NASTY, NOT ARROGANT, NOT SELF OPINIONATED!"

That's because he was almost always bluttered, and couldn't form words of any kind, nasty or otherwise. It's amazing what a calming effect three bottles of champers and half a case of Budweiser will do to help the nerves.
 
Bryan Robson was at least a nice pleasant person. "NOT NASTY, NOT ARROGANT, NOT SELF OPINIONATED!"

Yes but boring as hell and couldnt manage a sentance let alone a team.
 
At least Bryan Robson was a nice pleasant person.
"NOT AGGRESSIVE, NOT NASTY"!
 

I have had words about the "txt spk".

Please try and utilise the full keyboard when posting... it helps the old and literate understand what you're trying to say.

Cheers.
 

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